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Comments:
<0> ToHellWithGA: yeah, doing work here lately. but i'm OT.
<1> miked: tata!
<2> hey I'm Atlanta TOO!
<3> no cd's to burn it.............=/ only dvd's
<4> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
<4> Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
<5> I don't have a floppy, Farous, and the other methods are described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows but they're for Breezy and don't appear to work with my copy of Dapper
<0> so... where's a good tech bookstore near decatur?
<6> you atlanta cats old enough to share some beers and discuss linux?
<7> after next year ill be at Georgia tech
<4> can somebody help me
<2> ToHellWithGA: YEP!
<7> not beers
<7> linux yes
<8> !samba
<9> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
<0> ToHellWithGA: old enough not to do so well with the beer any more :)
<10> ToHellWithGA, Atlanta eh? me too..
<11> will the Linux version of Macromedia Flash player install and run properly on Ubuntu?
<2> ToHellWithGA: where do you work in atlanta?
<10> well for the next 3 months anyhow
<12> bobstro: Engineers Bkstr and GT bookstore are pretty much it in Atlanta AFAIK
<6> jarrod06: i can try to fish for a fake ID for you, ***uming you're a 6 foot tall skinny redheaded guy
<13> hey guys
<10> haha
<6> i don't fit that description but that's the fake i used for years lol
<2> I work in Alpharetta behind Northpoint Mall
<6> i work at Mary Mac's Tea Room and go to GT
<5> I have a computer that won't boot from CD. I found 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows' but it's all instructions for Breezy, not Dapper. Can someone help me find a way to start the install process for Dapper from windows? I don't have a floppy disc and no, BIOS is not the issue.
<10> Im out in Smyrna myself
<14> bobstro, would it have the same effect if i were able to mount the drive as user instead of giving myself permisions like that?
<12> OTP, OTP, OTP, all Atlanta wannabe's :)
<0> KuLover: well, not with ext3.
<10> Well Im actually Irish
<0> decatur here.
<7> nope i look nothing like that
<14> bobstro, what FS do you perfer?
<10> aint met too many atlantan's
<10> lol
<7> im going to love gsu though
<7> and i hate aint
<15> how do I install a older version of ati-drivers? thanks
<7> and ya;ll
<0> KuLover: i use ext3, but i hear reiser is good too.
<12> the concrete campus
<16> DavidJaq: you *might* be able to start the install using VMware, mounting a real disk on it. mildly risky, and only theoratical. no idea if it will actually good
<6> <3 y'all
<17> xfs is the coolest FS
<18> hey all - can i apt-get install something from a different repository without changing my sources.list? (like use dapper for just one file instead of breezy)
<6> but ain't is too base
<16> bobstro: personally i haven't had much luck with reiser, hosed my HDD twice
<19> David, I think the only change you need is to download the files from the dapper location instead of the breezy one. Let me see if I can munge the link for you so you have the right files.
<6> abarbaccia: you could download that .deb
<6> but its dependencies might be on that other repository
<0> Faileas: i've used ext3 for so long, and no compelling reason to change so far.
<2> ToHellWithGA: what year are you?
<18> ToHellWithGA: thanks buddy - that'll do - no new deps
<7> haha fools i really run os x
<6> mystamax: 5th this fall, graduating in december
<19> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
<5> AlwaysIcey, I tried finding the files myself but the files I got didn't appear to work
<16> bobstro: i use that now
<16> jarrod06: so? ;p
<20> is there an appreciable advantage for running the latest ubuntu over the latest debian, on the desktop, for a "power user?"
<20> by power user i mean somebody with a very great deal of linux experience, on and off the desktop
<10> no...
<21> Mutiny, no, not really
<14> Anyone here run a RAID array?
<16> Mutiny: well, linux being linux, a power user could take practically any distro and mod it, so no
<10> unless you want the glamor of XGL...but that should be available in Debian anyhow
<0> Mutiny: if by "power user" you mean somebody who will be asked repeatedly for help, then yes. :)
<16> XD
<10> hahah
<16> does that make me a windows power user then?
<21> and doesn't wanna play with subsystems anymore
<20> Faileas, right, but i find a lot of advantages of debian over, say, slackware or suse.
<0> Mutiny: that has been one of my motivations. i'm fine with any, but get tired of teaching complex stuff to end user who just want to do stuff.
<16> Mutiny: such as?
<6> i just let the server make #atlanta in case yall wanted to talk about atlanta there instead of wasting space in this already busy channel
<21> Mutiny, the toos are the same. The implementation is different though, so you might find it a decent start
<0> Faileas: well, suse was $$$ until recently.
<21> s/toos/tools/
<22> Mutiny, ubuntu gets security updates that debian unstable does not necessarily get
<6> mystamax: are you at tech?
<20> why would ubuntu get security updates that debian wouldn't?
<15> how do I install a older version of ati-drivers? thanks
<16> bobstro: and that affects the non hobbiest user how? ;p
<7> !atidrivers
<9> jarrod06: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<23> how can i install opera on my ubuntu
<7> !atidriver
<9> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jarrod06
<21> Mutiny, the simple reason that unstable never claims to be up to date on security, ubuntu stable does
<15> jarrod06 : i know that.. but the lasted ati drivers are f8cked .. they have bugs for 9200
<16> jonesssss: there's a .deb on the opera website
<24> mutiny, if you want security, ubuntu might be considered less based on a theory i have
<23> that doesnt work
<22> Mutiny, debian only guarantees security updates for stable, ubuntu is based on unstable, so the ubuntu team is making patches that debian is not necessarily working on
<24> the least popular os would be more secure
<0> davey_: er.... the "illusion" of security perhaps
<24> since it's weeknesses aren't tarteged
<18> ToHellWithGA: where would i download it from?
<16> davey_: ONLY if the myth of security by obsurity was true
<20> that's just a derivative of "security through obscurity"
<24> thats what i use for security
<0> davey_: apple dos?
<7> davey i disagree, the more popular an open os is, th more people will work on security issues
<16> yup
<19> David, the two files that you need are in the link I provided you with. Have you already tried downloading them, then following the directions on the page you referred to?
<22> davey_, openvms is the way to go then
<25> Hey -- my sound won't work -- it did just a few days ago -- before i update dapper from flight7 to final
<26> !adsl
<9> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
<0> davey_: that just means a few people will know, those with specific intent.
<16> jighead: well openvms allegedly IS the most secure OS available
<19> Shea, what sound card do you have?
<6> abarbaccia: that's something i wouldn't know. anybody know where one can download individual .deb's from a repository?
<23> faileas
<23> faileas,they do not have anyfor dapper
<22> Faileas, that's what both of the people still using it say
<16> hmm
<16> :(
<20> jighead, then again, i'd somewhat trust that a .deb file, produced by the maintainers of a piece of software, would be available more swiftly than a patch made by the ubuntu team.
<6> abarbaccia: my best bet would be to add the repository, download, and then remove that repository. i'd hope it would then leave those packages when removing the repository
<16> jighead: they actually did a test
<27> stupid question, whats the command to delete a file from Terminal?
<6> axion`: rm
<23> faileas, and breezy requires a few libs that dapper doesnt have
<27> k, thx
<18> ToHellWithGA: yeah, but scripting all that in sed is a bitch
<16> personally how "good" a OS is is dependant on 1) usability 2) security 3) drivers...
<6> if it's a folder with tight permissions you might have to "sudo rm" instead
<25> AlwaysIcey: lspci says: 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
<28> Hello
<29> help me I cannot do sudo apt-get
<16> windows has 3) and a bit of 1), apple has 1) and 3) (due to specific hardware) and a fair bit of 2
<28> I am having problems with my Wi-fi and a rather large delay in http connections
<16> linux, depends on distro
<28> Ar2no: Do you have adept installed?
<6> Ar2No: could you be more specific? you can't run the command or you don't know the syntax or what?
<20> so ubuntu has Xgl, which wouldn't even be useful at all without an opengl accel. card, right?
<22> Mutiny, software maintainers don't put out debs, Debian and Ubuntu do, the software maintainers patch their apps, and it is up to the package maintainers of Debian and Ubuntu to create updated packages
<7> !mutiny
<9> jarrod06: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<20> i see a lot of software maintainers packaging their own .deb files.
<21> ubotu mutiny is ubuntu
<29> danial & ToHellWithGA http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15273
<9> okay, nickrud
<21> ubotu forget mutiny
<9> nickrud: i forgot mutiny
<29> danial what do u mean? adept?
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