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<0> konfuzed: there's a dapper-updates, dapper-security repositories that can be updated at any time
<1> well ok how about 6.0.7 or 6.0.8
<2> firecraft - Are you having trouble with ubuntu finding all the available partitions? winmac_fstab.sh bash script will find *everything*
<3> konfuzed: there are sometimes weekly updates
<4> its a shame, i really miss the daily dapper suprises i used to download :(
<5> konfuzed: as they fix stuff and find security stuff and fix it, they update those repos
<0> konfuzed: huh?
<6> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15175
<4> i cant wait for edgy beta :)
<0> Toma-: you selected teh nv driver :)
<0> *the
<1> well the install version claims to be dapper 6.0.6
<1> and the same on the dvd that was downloaded
<6> apokryphos: yes. to use X. its set to nvidia when it bombs out...
<5> konfuzed: 6.06. not 6.0.6
<0> konfuzed: cat /etc/issue ?
<7> Might try sudo nvidia-xconfig
<5> konfuzed: (year)6.(month)06
<0> Toma-: show me the xorg.conf after you did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure and have selected nvidia as the driver
<8> does anybody know about floppy booting for xubuntu, any help is appreciated
<1> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
<6> apokryphos: itll be exactly the same with nvidia in driver section....
<1> i havent upgraded yet
<1> that was _john
<9> so i should upgrade from warty to hoary?
<9> and then hoary to breezy?
<0> konfuzed: so what's the problem?
<1> er _john's computer
<5> Icky: yes.
<9> thanks
<0> Icky: you're on warty?
<4> taotime, be more specific please - you could use a grub floppy to gain access to your PC if you have wiped the MBR
<1> i had to enable the ethernet adapter though before discovering that a link on shoutcast.com did not produce music
<1> it seems like amarok hangs
<5> Icky: you could have some issues moving from warty to hoary
<10> Icky, yep, that's how it goes
<4> but taotime, theres no way you could fit a working ubuntu onto a floppy, even if its xfce :)
<6> *sigh* what a headache. should have stuck with breezy
<5> Icky: I did, but that's no guarantee.
<0> kakalto_: there shouldn't really be any
<5> Toma-: why do you say that?
<8> skippy81: i am trying to install xubuntu on a very old machine, where the cdrom autoboot option is not available.
<7> The kernel is too big, bigger than the floppy.
<4> Toma-: its worth it in the end - the duck will be yours :)
<1> wow these waudruple choco cookies are amazing
<4> taotime, oh i see
<6> kakalto: nothing but errors in dapper so far. with some pretty artwork to look at behind them tho :)
<11> I was able to upgrade to dapper pretty flawlessly as far as I can tell!
<1> my fingers must be full
<5> Toma-: eh, that won't affect me, I don't get the artwork, just base =P
<1> *quadrupple choco
<8> skippy81: i checked the groups and help files on uubuntu website.. i dont know if i can make boot floppies from the cd
<6> ahh youll get the ncurses errors :D
<1> the system sure seems damn slow on the internet
<6> ill give these official drivers another go.
<4> taotime, i dont think you could - also where would you be drawing the installation source from? i guess a network install might be possible with some hacking
<12> hello everyone, how do I enable host name completion for ping and ssh. It is working for everything else
<5> Toma-: =D just been fixing some of them from breezy :P
<8> skippy81: the computer is old and has a cdrom drive. i just cannot get it to boot
<1> that was in hoary and dapper
<4> taotime, forgive me lol, i thought you had no CD :)
<8> skippy81: that is cool
<4> taotime, i will do a bit of reseach for you, i am sure what you want must be possible
<4> brb
<7> Rats, I just heard of some program to fool an old machine into booting a cdrom when it wont normally do so, just yesterday, but I can't recall where.
<9> should i just download the latest ?
<8> skippy81: i m trying to help some of my buddies who have really old computers there are going to throw it away... or buy a new one... i m doing this so that they can try linux on the old machine..
<9> would that be better than upgrading from hoary to breezy to dapper
<0> Icky: if you want, but you'll have to do a full reinstall.
<4> cool, well taotime, im sure there is a way
<0> Icky: no upgrade
<1> hhhhmmm the scary part is that the win98 box beside it runs through webpages faster than ubuntu
<2> taotime - my memory may be a little foggy on that too. "el torito:??
<9> apokryphos, is it just as stable to do the upgrades?
<9> its like 3 different upgrades
<8> skippy81: actually i tried to borrow one of those external cdroms but they are not recognised up until after the operating system loads
<0> Icky: doing three upgrades is a real h***le; I'd just back up my data (/etc/, /var, /home) and do a reinstall
<11> Where the hell is TCL installed on Ubuntu?
<4> taotime - you are positive that your bios does not support configarable boot devices? does it only let you choose between floppy and hard disk?
<8> i mean this computer is old : 133 KHz and 64MB RAM
<13> heh
<8> skippy81: yeah i tried and read all the documentation
<5> Icky: sadly there's no supported direct old version --> dapper paths; you have to go through each release first
<9> apokryphos, i got like 30 gigs of data
<9> and no backup
<9> options
<4> ok taotime im looking into it for you now - i wont be long
<14> i need to buy a better motherboard - mine locks up when there's a lot of concurrent I/O (video, sound, network). any suggestions on how to pick a quality motherboard?
<5> Icky: have fun upgrading then :S
<15> no dvd?
<11> witless: yeah, go Asus.
<0> Icky: if you really have no backup options then you're going to have to upgrade; make sure you follow all instructions exactly though (see the FAQ)
<5> Icky: so long as, if you have problems with the graphics side, you know how to get into IRC from the console :)
<16> when I get a MINI Cooper, I will paint it in brown/orange colors and turn it into "Ubuntu mobile"
<7> hehe
<16> and do on-site ubuntu support in spare time
<2> though LAMP is not an option - hahah
<16> I was actually thinking of doing it right now ...
<16> but it would be very limited
<7> It is amazing what pretty backgrounds the folks at ubuntu.org can make with shades of brown and orange.
<17> any one familiar with backup-manager ? I installed it to backup on demand now it's backing up twice a day and I don't know how to stop it.
<7> Serene looking.
<18> well, the wlan remains non-operative, and I have pretty much given up hope of changing that
<5> is there a clean way of removing all packages related to the ubuntu derivitive(?) you have installed, just leaving the base?
<13> how do i list what libraries i have
<13> or how im supposed to call them?
<2> kakalto - remove the ubuntu-desktop ??
<0> kakalto_: I guess you could use debfoster, in conjugation with ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop metapackages
<4> taotime, i think i have the solution
<0> iiiears: not if you installed with apt-get
<0> or synaptic
<5> iiiears: that seems to just remove the metapackage
<5> apokryphos: 'debfoster', huh
<5> apokryphos: anything special I need to know about it? or just download and install?
<7> This genie gives a guy a wish and he asks for a road from california to Hawaii so he can drive there because he gets seasick and air sick. The genie says that's too hard, so the guy asks the genie to fix his windows machine. The genie says "About that road. You want it 2, 4, or 8 lanes?"
<0> kakalto: sudo apt-get install debfoster && debfoster --help
<4> taotime: basically grub allows you to add "boot from cd" onto its menu - thereby allowing a CD-boot without bios support
<5> garryfre: amusing, yes. heard before, likely. offtopic? definately.
<5> apokryphos: cheers.
<7> nods
<4> taotime: fortunately for you slackware linux allready make a disk set up for this purpose http://slackware.at/data/slackware-current/rootdisks/sbootmgr.dsk, just download the image and write it to a floppy
<0> kakalto_: or you could start removing some X/GTK libs which will hack it down almost completely 8)
<5> garryfre: there is a #ubuntu-offtopic place, ya know :)
<0> debfoster should be a viable solution though
<4> then boot from that floppy taotime, and select "boot from CD"
<5> apokryphos: if I were to remove something like, say, xorg-common, you think that'd do the trick?
<7> hehe, Yeah, I should go visit.
<18> oh, anyone know how to set the home page in Firefox?
<5> Geoffrey2: in the options
<4> Geoffrey2: Edit > Preferences
<0> kakalto_: dont' remember the X packaging in Ubuntu exactly, but I'd just sudo apt-get remove xorg* libgtk*
<2> EDIT .. PREFERENCES >> change the URL listed
<5> apokryphos: will try. -s option first =)
<18> ah, there it is...thanks...
<4> np
<7> Some server versions of linux can be installed without a gui.
<0> kakalto_: it will show you alist of packs it'll remove first anyhow
<8> skippy81: hey i m checking that slackware website right now.. cool. got to give it to you guys.... thanxs a bunch.
<8> skippy81: late then , goodbye.
<4> taotime, one thing
<8> skippy81: yeah?
<5> apokryphos: it shows up with some weird dependency stuff... is there an option for apt-get remove to remove everything that depends on the package? or should that be done automatically?
<0> kakalto_: it should be automatic
<4> taotime: you have to burn that floppy image as an image - use rawwritewin program in windows or use dd in linux, copying on the file wont work - has to be an image
<19> so now easy ubuntu gives me a runtime error: can't open display when I try to run the python script ...
<0> kakalto_: what does it say exactly? Paste?
<5> apokryphos: ah... it was about abiword, how it wouldn't be updated. then the simulation went on to show the upgarde to dapper.
<7> Yeah, python is expecting to run via the gui
<8> skippy81: i m used to using dd to write raw image of files.
<20> hmm vmplayer appears to work :)
<7> I had that problem yesterday.
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