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<0> I still <3 holycow and don't stop talking dirty to me.
<1> crimsun: yes, gcc3.4 will not be suitable for the latest nvidia-kernel to be compiled, they are that specific.. not even 4.0.1
<2> Am i the only one that thinks no firewall in ubuntu is stupid? even if you dont need it you should ALWAYS have one
<3> !wine
<4> deb http://192.168.1.43:9999/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
<5> this is high level tech help. you could be walking your wife's relative through windows update. oh wait, that's what I'm doing on the phone right now.
<6> dhanny: basically when you install a package on your client *or* on your server, apt-cache will cache it, so that if you later install the same package on the other machine, it won't have to be downloaded
<7> sixty i loss the last message from u , i want to fdisk then reformat a hd that had linux on it, how?
<8> hatake_kakashi: it's been suitable afaik
<4> deb http://192.168.1.43/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
<1> pbransford: its not that ubuntu doesn't have firewall.. it does, however its not configured
<4> o..
<9> pbransford: why? if there are zero open ports in a default install, then a firewall will do nothing
<2> hatake_kakashi, thats what i meant
<10> Yay! GNOME is back!!
<4> ok..



<4> :)
<11> LjL, its is a terrible disservice to let misconceptions about how this stuff works lurk around. things like ubuntu lite are the height or idiocy. those of you that have the time and inclination should work a wee bit harder to allow for knowledge to bloom, not misinformation to spread
<3> is there a emulator better than wine?
<12> dhanny, change the bottom line to say "ubuntu-security". otherwise, that's fine#
<1> crimsun: no its not, try compiling the latest nvidia module yourself and you would know what I mean
<2> Rug, how often does a default install stay a default install
<0> _wd3_ : Someone might be able to help you because I do not have the time to walk you through since I am about to leave.
<9> ruzgar: cedega or vmware
<11> at best ubuntu lite should be a section in the wiki
<7> sixy thanx
<10> What is ubuntu lite?
<8> hatake_kakashi: it does work here.
<13> I suppose I'll install xfce4 just to have a gnome alternative, just in case.
<3> ok
<6> holycow: whatever. that you disagree with something or someone doesn't mean you have to insult that something or someone. that's all i care about in the context of this channel. so, please keep a lower profile.
<3> is cedega free?
<9> pbransford: at that time you could install/setup a firewall
<1> pbransford: well they left it unconfigured so that people can set it up themselves later. Its to prevent un-necessary h***les and frustrations
<1> ruzgar: no
<3> !cedega
<3> ok
<14> anyone know how to resolve vnc client issues?
<13> A hammer
<11> LjL, or what?
<1> crimsun: which version do you have? and did you compile the kernel with gcc3.4?
<13> Oh wait, that's Microsoft issues..
<4> what is the differst between "dapper-security" and "ubuntu-security", i use "dapper-security" by floowing the default in the source.list
<11> LjL, i dare you
<9> Wolfwood: I prefer Xfce too
<8> hatake_kakashi: I've also been doing this since before Nvidia had a decent kbuild system, so I'm aware of ignoring $CC.
<6> holycow: or nothing. i said "please", no?
<13> I can't say I prefer it yet - never have used it. I will though.
<10> holycow, LjL, make love not war
<2> hatake_kakashi, a simple option during installation (block incomming connections with firewall or do not touch?)
<3> !vmware
<2> Something.
<12> ruzgar, last i checked, it was with 3 months' support, support is a month subsequently. you only get updates if you have a valid support contract
<15> holycow: LjL: #ubuntu-offtopic please
<8> hatake_kakashi: I'm on Dapper, and I don't even use Nvidia.
<16> crimsun: you want the kernel-headers
<16> oh nm
<8> heh.
<6> nalioth: please grep the logs before thinking we're just discussing about something. i think holycow should understand what this channel is about.
<7> holycow i how can i fdisk a hd that had linux on it to reformat it? right now the bios shows it but when i use win98 disk it doesn't shw up a d: drive.
<12> dhanny, you just want it to say "http://192.168.1.43:9999/ubuntu-security dapper-security main restricted" on your bottom line
<1> crimsun: well, I used to think of the method of having to get the one suitable for it because nvidia is so b*tchy over small things like that
<17> LjL: this channel is logged? heh i should be more careful what i say
<5> maybe you coudl boot a livecd then use the linux version of fdisk
<3> !totem
<10> wastrel: Big brother :P
<18> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ruzgar
<1> pbransford: if you set that on during installation, you may end up not being able to check for the correct repos, etc
<11> wd3 the easiest thing in gnome is to use gnomeparted gui, in kde qtparted
<10> ruzgar: please... /msg ubotu <word>
<17> Stormx2: well their logs aren't available to the public ;]
<13> !totem
<6> wastrel: "log" is a way of saying... it's logged as long as someone's logging it, or at least as long as i can scroll back :)
<8> wastrel: yes, it is.
<13> Gee, have to wait 15 seconds. That's nice.
<11> wd3 super easy to get rid of boot sector and reformat. you should be able to reformat with ntfs too, or fat32 if your doing win98
<13> !totem



<18> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Wolfwood
<19> What is the DCC exploit?
<20> in the Network Tools dialog, what does "location" do?
<13> Yeah, what is that?
<8> wastrel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
<15> QMario: a free k-line for its users
<6> QMario: something you should worry about if you're using a NetGear router.
<11> purplefeltangel, it lets you set up multiple network configurations
<2> hatake_kakashi, then the user setting it should know better. OK, only add the option to expert install?
<16> it's a four letter word
<11> purplefeltangel, for example you can setup home and office, both of which would have different configs typically
<20> holycow: oh, thanks
<1> pbransford: probably, but try consulting that with the ubuntu-devs first
<19> Hello nalioth!!! ;)
<7> i can't get ubuntu up , after last 3 installs it ask for user and p***, well after i type info it brings me to the root or "name$"
<17> crimsun: i shall commence self censorship in the hope of avoiding public ridicule ;]
<15> hi Q
<16> lol
<10> remind me, when is dapper due?
<12> dhanny, it's half past 2 in the morning. are you all sorted?
<21> hi -- could you please help me with grub and linux multiboot ? i did let sarge installer format my /boot (I already know that I'm a idiot), and grub won't start since then (prints endless "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB...." messages).
<22> _wd3_> you mean it asks you to type the user/p***wd again and again during install ?
<6> !tell Stormx2 about dapper
<16> _wd3_: gdm isn't loading is what you have there i think
<7> yes
<7> hymm yes
<20> on evolution i keep getting an error message that says something like "unable to sync inbox and summary" or something, and some of my messages are showing up twice . . . anyone have any idea whats wrong?
<7> pavlovsdog thanx also
<22> _wd3_> is by any chance your /home partition mounted to a fat32 ?
<6> ho-ho-home mounted as far32? brrrrr
<16> _wd3_: wht happens if you type startx after you log into that weird looking root or "name$"
<7> hymm it was a fresh formated fat32 then i installed ubuntu
<11> wd3 then you cant do it in ubuntu, you need another utility for this ... there are a bunch of online free utilities for this, ithink fdisk from a win98 bootdisk might do this? not sure i only use linux i have no clue about windows anymore
<16> oh nm
<22> so that's it
<22> _wd3_> your /home MUST be ext3
<7> hymm it is ext3 and my swap is config also
<11> wd3 what i do is i have a hard drive tray on my usb port, i drop an hd in and use the tools i mentioned to do similar things, sounds like you are trying to do this for a drive that is slave or is primary drive
<23> mine is resizerfs
<16> ok wd40 type startx
<22> welwhatever FS Linux can write natively
<11> wd3 if you can i would recommend is booting your system off of a different hd, and having that drive as slave/secondary master/whatever, then using either windows or linux tools to do that
<7> holycow ur good, yes the hd with linux on it is slave i inserted win98 disk but the hd doesn't show up as d:
<24> Hi, can anyone help me? my USB hard drive has suddenly stopped being recognised. When I try to mount all, I get the message /dev/sda1 does not exist...
<4> directhex, should i configure the source.list in the apt-proxy server??
<11> wd3 correct, it cannot see the partitions ... but it should show up under system something or other. you should be able to download windows tools that can see the device, reformat it an dmount it under windows
<23> i like to use boot and nuke
<7> holycow when i boot up win2k the linux hd doesn't even show up
<23> to wpe a drive
<22> _wd3_> Win can't read linux FS natively
<22> there are tools to do that hough
<11> wd3 it doesn't show up as d, but if you right click on my computer, select manage, to to system tools or whatever, the device should show up
<23> dban
<4> directhex, should i configure the source.list in the apt-proxy server same as the workstation???
<11> wd3 windows just can't mount the file system but it can see the device for sure
<7> hymm and holy thanks i'll try that .
<22> holycow> it can
<12> dhanny, you can if you want. there's no major reason to
<22> not natively but there are tools to do it
<12> dhanny, are the clients behaving as you expect them to?
<7> hymm what tools
<6> directhex, dhanny: uh, what would be the reason of *using* apt-proxy if that is not done? :o)
<23> there is an ext2 and ext3 driver
<23> for win
<6> _wd3_: google for "ext2 windows", you'll find - i think - three
<7> holycow the bios sees the hd when it boots but in win
<7> ljl thanks
<11> wd3, your mixing up your terminology
<11> windows 'sees' the device
<24> Anyone know where my hard drive might be if not at /dev/sda1?
<11> wd3, windows just doesn't know what to do with the partition information so it cannot MOUNT it as d:
<11> get it?
<6> liquidindian: /dev/hda1 if it's IDE


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