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Comments:
<0> CaptainMorgan: no need to revert, it's still there, when you login you can choose which session to use
<1> its linux all the KDE FCE etc can all be put in
<2> im not saying ubuntu is dumbing anything down by any mans
<2> means
<3> hastesaver : is there any place i can read some about them>
<3> ?
<1> they are just the desktop session managers
<2> im just saying I hope thats not the goal
<4> CaptainMorgan, just use apt-install ubuntu-desktop
<5> whats the difference between the linux-386 and linux-686 packages?
<6> OK - one other thing I need to work out how to sort out... I only have one mouse button on my iBook. Can anyone tell me if it's possible to simulate a RMB click?
<7> schalken: linux-686 is compiled for newer processors
<8> jessy: what kind of bug? I'm running dapper on an nforce4 sli rig..........no issues.
<9> kosnick, I don't exactly know what they are, myself, sorry :)
<1> 486 and 686 are the chips they may require difreent software between versions
<3> CaptainMorgan : i have installed KDE libraries so i choose which one i like most , KDE or GNOME
<0> schalken: 386 will run on processors older than PII, 686 will not, but it's faster on everything else
<6> anyone got any idea?
<10> glick, i totally understand what you're saying, im the same way. but you just cant expect that from most people. sadly, most people are extremely computer illiterate. so if you want a desktop OS to dominate, it has to damn near do everything automatically. luckly with linux, we will still have the option to get as technical as we want
<11> Kliment, see.. that doesn't make much sense.. two different versions of ubuntu, and two different istallations, yet upon boot and login you can choose which environment to pick from of the two... I don't see the point in having two avaialbe installs..
<12> how can I upgrade to 6.06 amd64 from 5.10 i386?
<3> hastesaver : any clue about them , anything?
<5> wastrel, Kliment: if i use that, should i get rid of the linux-386 package?
<13> IMPORTANT NOTICE TO EVERYONE USING THE BCM43XX DRIVERS>>> If ubuntu do a kernel upgrade to 2.6.17 you MUST use the wl_apsta.o from http://drinus.net/airport/wl_apsta.o. I just got told this from the bcm43xx team
<1> I didnt eatiher
<14> !tell extern about update
<15> avis: hos did you run it from terminal?
<14> !tell extern about upgrade
<0> schalken: if you want to, but there's no need
<16> sudo -i
<15> s/hos/how
<16> then typed it
<17> extern: that change the arch.. I don't think you can do it.
<5> Kliment: cool, thanks!
<11> bascially, install one and you don't need the other... weird
<15> avis: try: gksudo synaptic
<1> most all distros have a login and a menu drop with all the session managers in them
<15> avis: you shouldn't use sudo w/ GUI apps
<16> ok
<0> CaptainMorgan: you can remove the gnome stuff if you want
<0> CaptainMorgan: if you prefer kde
<17> avis: ksudo and gsudo for that
<9> kosnick, sort of, a vague idea: they are created when you login to your Xsession. Bad things happen when you delete them. When new X apps start, they look for those files. But I should stop now before I say too many wrong things :)
<12> BioVorE, but on 6.06 xserver is not working for me, even on vga or vesa drivers
<15> BioVorE: s/gsudo/gksudo ?
<0> CaptainMorgan: some people like to have both
<18> anyone know how to remove the old ati drivers?
<17> orbin: yeah.. something like taht
<10> orbin, lol nice perl
<19> how do you add a key for apt?
<3> hastesaver : i guess you are right ( i thought about it myself) , but i can not log in now..... :(
<15> dougsko: i think i'ts sed actually :P
<6> Warbo: any idea on simulating a RMB click on a 1- button iBook running Ubuntu?
<17> extern: 6.06 amd64 graphical installer not working for you? what graphics card you got?
<9> kosnick, oh, if you can't login, then delete them and try again :)
<1> so is unbutu going to be a hey we made all the new popular apps work like media files ipod transfer etc or is it going to be a hey monkey hit the red button
<12> BioVorE, I have ATI x700 PRO
<10> orbin, well then its both i guess :)
<3> CaptaiMorgan : the applications exist in KDE and some in GNOME , so ineed them both
<20> what was the old ubuntu screensaver manager called in breezy?
<12> BioVorE the same was for 5.10, but it worked when I set it to vesa drivers
<1> if you have an apple check out the yellowdog distro
<21> willwork4foo: Hmmm... Change the prefs. (I know KDE can do pretty much everything with 1 button)
<17> extern: I would think it should work.. I havn't put 6.06 on my AMD64 yet.. (I had no issese with AMD64 brezzy install here)
<6> Warbo: I don't think Gnome has that option
<3> hastesave : yes , what can be "wronger" than that?
<9> kosnick, (login at a console -- hit ctrl-alt-f1, and type your username and p***word)
<11> how do I update to Dapper without having to install?
<20> i cant configure the new gomescreensaver which ****s casue i cannot pick which ones i want nor configure them
<17> !upgrade
<22> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
<16> when i run gksudo and synaptic it returns me to bash with no errors
<8> B0FH: then just install the xscreensaver from synaptic. its yer choice.
<9> avis, are you doing "gksudo synaptic" ?
<3> hastesaver : and then what , cause i have already did that
<21> willwork4foo: I think there may be a tradeoff with holding down mouse button, or maybe a key combo can be maped to it (like Super-Click)
<16> yes
<10> avis, maybe reinstall synaptic via cli?
<12> BioVorE: I had some problem on 5.10, but I changed the driver and it worked, but on 6.06 it stops displaying anything.
<20> thank you
<8> :)
<23> Hi, i just installed XFCE and it seems to have eaten it's own conf files. To try to repair the menu, i removed the .config/xfce4 directory in hopes it would roll back. Alas, it didn't. I've been able to restore the menu, but htings like panels, etc are still gone - anyone run into this?
<24> so, anybody know how to fix fglrx problems (like it not loading)
<16> dougsko, how do i do that ?
<6> Warbo: I'm trying to work that one out
<9> kosnick, then try logging in to the X again. Doesn't that work?
<6> no joy yet
<3> hastesaver : no
<15> tlouden: how'd you install?
<17> extern: you talking X dies on the installer for dapper?
<19> how do you add a gpg key?
<9> kosnick, there's also the .Xauthority file...
<10> avis, apt-get remove --Purge synaptic && apt-get install synaptic
<21> willwork4foo: Maybe Google will yield an xorg.conf section?
<0> willwork4foo: found one for you
<0> http://www.alessandroronchi.net/wiki/LinuxOnIBookG4
<16> ok let me write that down
<24> orbin: installed in 5.10 and upgraded to 6.06 (also tried full removal and reinstall)
<17> extern: Or dose it stop after you installed the os and rebooted?
<12> BioVorE: everything dies :/ I can't even come back to other consoles to normally reboot my pc
<15> tlouden: which fglrx driver though? the official one or the repos one?
<12> BioVorE: when booting from desktop cd
<24> orbin: repos
<17> extern: sounds like X dose something strange with your hardware.
<10> avis, you dont have to do it all at once, you see its two commands. you'll need to each one with sudo
<12> BioVorE: when my monitor stops showing stuff, I can still hear the sound when it has finished booting
<25> well this is just dandy, now none of my hard drives boot
<15> tlouden: k, what do you mean by not loading
<25> grub doesn't like my system one bit
<3> hastesaver : i ' ll try deleting them and see what happens , thx for your time anyway
<26> AlienX, you around?
<23> anyone run into this at all? :o
<10> avis, and that's only a hack that may or may not work, there might be something else wrong that we dont know about yet
<25> I overwrote my old grub, and got the same result
<27> hello
<10> hey rocky
<24> orbin: glxinfo and fglrxinfo report sgi/mesa and no acceleration
<28> Hi again, SurfnKid.
<25> I overwrote the windows boot, and it just sits there with "GRUB" and lines flashing about on the screen
<27> whats up
<8> join /#ubuntuforums
<7> oh jolly
<25> Stupid bootloader, can't I just boot right to ubuntu?
<15> tlouden: have you done a reboot yet to load the module?
<24> yeah
<29> Botty: can you fit a linux kernel in 512 bytes?
<25> heh
<24> the module is loaded (as per lsmod and modprobe just in case)
<7> i did a good job
<15> tlouden: have you added it to /etc/modules and changed xorg.conf ?
<15> tlouden: oh ok
<25> zcat[1] - well, can I have something similar that um, works?
<24> orbin: xorg.conf has fglrx in place of ati and such
<29> Botty: for most of us that would be grub :)
<25> yeah, for me it doesnt work
<1> i always used lilo
<29> weird config huh?
<28> Botty, sounds like you didn't install GRUB properly.
<28> Hi, x-Dieu.
<16> thank you brb
<25> i think its because i've got a SATA drive and a normal drive
<15> tlouden: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<25> its probably
<25> *probable
<15> tlouden: it should say you're using fglrx for one. two...look for errors
<11> !upgrade
<22> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
<17> Grub manual can be found at: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
<25> Basically i just called setup on both my hard drives
<24> orbin: it warns that desktop setting is invalid (it is set to null)
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