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<0> is it lsh?
<0> or is that not the official one
<1> right. OK - Ubuntu on a mac ****s. I've decided. There is a huge list of crap that doesn't work :(
<0> i thought it was like ssh2
<0> or something like that
<0> or sshd
<2> unperson, good news is that it's closer than its ever been
<0> anyone?
<1> and nobody yet here has even acknowledged that they have read what I've been saying. it's almost as if I am on /ignore ?
<3> dougsko: Well, I think it might be suitable for a lot of people if they don't need to install it.
<4> CaptainMorgain: I even think its possible to transition an Ubuntu install over to KDE, not that i'd know how, but i don't doubt its possible
<5> willwork4foo: What doesn't work?
<6> !kde
<7> glick: openssh-server
<3> And if it's family, another advantage is that, rather that giving tech support over the phone, you can actually login and check out issues directly.
<0> ahh thansk Kliment :)
<6> feh
<8> anyone know where I can find the gfxboot message that is used on the live CD to use on my install.
<2> unperson, true
<3> I will say that back when I triend Mandrake, they had a very nice install.
<3> Especially disk partitioning.
<9> what's theat file i can edit again so i still run privileged things w/ sudo, but i don't have to enter my pswd?
<1> Warbo: here's the list: 1: No video or audio files will play. I get an error message saying there is no support installed - for MPG!! 2: I can't get the hash character (shift-3) to appear onscreen for the reason I stated earlier 3: the auto-update icon says there are updates I need, but when I click on it NOTHING happens
<10> mandrake is now payfor
<7> Ademan: yeah, it's easy, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
<3> I presume that software is GPL, so I don't know why other distros don't use it.
<11> The one thing I miss in this is the ability to choose what packages I can install.
<12> unperson: Mandriva's installer is indeed nice. But medium to long term, ubuntu is better. I used mandr(ake|iva) for maybe three years, then I moved to ubuntu
<5> People say Linux partitioning is hard. That's because newbies try to dual-boot, but they still compare with windows where they just use default
<1> those are just the things that have irritated me in the 15 minutes since my install finished
<4> Kliment: and then the undo i suppose would be ubuntu-desktop? or gnome-desktop?
<13> Boelcke, i need to go...i am not sure why i doesn't work the way i expect... i am sure somewhere here could help... if not post to ubuntu-users or something... best of luck
<0> i dont get it
<0> people want a windows replacement
<5> willwork4foo: mpg is not Ubuntu's problem. Theora is
<7> Ademan: no, they are both installed in parallel
<3> Youssef***ad: Well, I definitely had some issues with Mandrake once it was installed.
<0> they want something that looks and acts and smells like windows
<14> deshantm_, I just got it -- thanks for all the direction!
<0> but isnt windows
<4> Kliment: how would you switch back then?
<14> I went to http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=328413
<12> unperson: mandriva b0rked the last two system upgrades. In my book, that's unacceptable.
<1> Warbo: whatever. That's a minor concern at the moment. any ideas on the hash key? that's REALLY annoying
<3> Youssef***ad: But that was a long time ago. Once I went to Debian based distros, I haven't gone back.
<13> Boelcke, what was the solution?
<0> Linux IS NOT a windows replacement, it is a UNIX replacement
<15> Kde use X ?
<16> Hm.
<0> lets keep that in mind please!
<7> Ademan: you can pick which one you go to when you login
<1> I've got a problem - the hash key (shift 3 on a US keyboard) is not present on my keyboard layout on my UK iBook. I selected the British English keyboard layout during installation, and I managed to get a hash key on the input testing bit by using <Apple Key> + 3, but now that I'm booted into my installation of Ubuntu, I get a when I do that same combination
<11> I did a dual-boot about 6 months ago. It wasn't hard. Just had Windows Server on first, then installed Debian on the other half of the drive. The only thing I can say is, if you're planning to do it, divide the hard drive up when you install the first OS.
<8> Any ideas aon gfxboot?
<2> glick, i dont think its that, i think they just want something that WORKS, cant blame em for that
<14> Where it had be use this in the fstab: ext3 auto,owner,users,rw 0 1
<7> CaptainMorgan: yes
<17> Aye Amen Glick
<4> whoa, wierd
<2> not everyone's a geek
<16> glick, it can replace Windows, it just wasn't designed that way.
<18> for some reason synaptic wont run on my dapper installation on a fresh install.
<14> deshantm_, but then I had to do a chmod -R 777 /media/hdb2
<12> unperson: the mandriva control center is nice though, it does deserve to be more wiedely adapted. Though yast is just as good
<1> Warbo: I've got a problem - the hash key (shift 3 on a US keyboard) is not present on my keyboard layout on my UK iBook. I selected the British English keyboard layout during installation, and I managed to get a hash key on the input testing bit by using <Apple Key> + 3, but now that I'm booted into my installation of Ubuntu, I get a when I do that same combination
<18> after p***word it does not load
<4> avis: any error? or it just wont run?
<4> oh
<18> just wont run
<15> shoot... Fluxbox IS nice..
<9> avis: run it from a terminal and check for errors
<18> ok
<2> KDE looks and smells like windows, but that doesnt help when you have to run ifconfig to set up yr ehternet
<5> willwork4foo: Hash key is same key as ~
<0> so whats so horrible about running ifconfig?
<4> Kliment: you seem like you've used both, are there comparable panel apps in KDE to gnome? are they more abundant? are they more customizable( the panels that is)
<5> willwork4foo: On UK
<15> what does "looks and smells like Windows" mean??
<10> if your in KDE there are apps for internet
<13> Boelcke, ok that works and i am sure you can chmod or chown more nicely as needed.
<2> glick, nothing, if yr a linux geek like us
<18> orbin this is a one liner so i think pasting is ok (synaptic:14880): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
<19> any channel for anjuta?
<1> aha!
<1> I've found it!!!!!!!!!!!
<1> ##########
<1> woohooo
<5> willwork4foo: :)
<14> deshantm_, yep!
<7> Ademan: I prefer the gnome panel apps myself
<1> fantastic!
<2> glick, but you cant forget about the other 99% of people out there who know NOTHING about computers
<3> plastic, dougsko: Thanks for trying to help. I think I'm going to bittorrent the server ISO and give that a shot.
<1> that solves a big problem.
<4> Kliment: what about the panel customization?
<5> willwork4foo: I know my way arounf UK keyboard (it's in front of me) and US (when I get stuck in a broken console)
<2> unperson, good luck man
<18> orbin any ideas ?
<20> I added a resierfs partition to my system, but only root can write to it, how can I allow my user write access? (I mounted it using etc/fstab /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 reiserfs defaults 0 1)
<1> Warbo: It's not marked on the key
<7> Ademan: I think you can actually set more things there than in gnome
<21> dougsko, i think ubuntu need only ubuntu not other k x n o and other latter on your phone
<1> but it works.
<0> i like ubuntu, i think its usability is at a nice level, i just dont want to see it "dumbed down" to appease people who dont want to learn ANYTHING about their computers
<1> that'll do me :)
<0> dougsko, instead of dumbing things down we should educate people
<4> like, i feel like i hafta use a drawer to emulate having the "places" menu in gnome
<9> avis: seaching the forum...but can you use the other apt tools?
<9> avis: e.g. apt-get or aptitude
<18> yes
<0> im just saying lets not forget Linux's unix roots thats all
<0> and not lose sight of that
<19> any channel for anjuta?
<22> glick:you ccan always use the power beneath
<22> glick: nothing will prevent that.
<1> I've just noticed - I am running Ubuntu "Breezy", and there is a new release out - "Dapper". Should I try to upgrade to it using the update manager? Or just download a new ISO and install that? I've only just finished installing "Breezy" so I won't lose anything
<7> kosnick: if #anjuta does not work, I don't know
<2> glick, i try, i think we all do. but peopl souldnt need a degree to use their computer. the whole eleetism thing has to go before this gets mainstream
<22> willwork4foo: use the update manager.
<22> willwork4foo: it's safe.
<19> kliment : no its not working , thx anyway
<5> willwork4foo: I would try upgrading first
<7> kosnick: does the anjuta web site mention anything?
<1> OK. and that will give me a system just as good as installing Dapper from a CD?
<23> glick, you can tell them "This is the easy-to-learn GUI way to do it; if you want to learn the easy-to-use cli way, read up on <ifconfig, etc>"
<24> glick: educate.. people don't want to learn.. unfortunely.. most people new to linux don't even know that there is documentation, or can even understand it.
<10> the website says thats one of the features install once upgrade forever
<25> hi all
<2> nayif, your right, but lets face it, linux just isnt much fun as a desktop OS without a desktop
<25> !ait
<26> [nige]: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<25> !ati
<26> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
<23> glick, if someone is going to do it only once, there's no point using the cli when the GUI works well enough.
<19> !.ICEauthority
<26> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kosnick
<21> willwork4foo, if you have fast line do the upgrade if not like me download the iso file form other place
<25> umm that ubuntu starter program is a 404 :S
<0> dougsko, im not being elite, i dont think its much to do to read a basic manual or fire up google. i have this one friend (an engineer at that!) who always asks me question that if you type them into google are always the first hit!
<19> !dcopserver
<26> kosnick: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<6> i posted a bug
<27> hi
<15> if I install Kubuntu, can I revert to Gnome ?
<28> I like ubuntu better than all distros
<23> kosnick, don't delete those files; they're needed (created with each session) :)
<1> I have a fast enough line
<29> is there any ubuntu developers on herE?
<27> somebody know if there is a bug with installing dapper on a nForce 4 SLI plateform ?
<7> CaptainMorgan: no need to revert, it's still there, when you login you can choose which session to use
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