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Comments:
<0> wth?
<0> i was told it does
<1> The one on apt-get doesnt
<2> !xgl
<3> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/";
<1> as of like a week ago
<4> hajuu__, are you running Breezy?
<1> hoary
<4> Ohhhh, that's old!
<1> stfu
<1> lol
<5> hello
<4> That's why you haven't got the latest version...
<4> Hi, nagulator.
<6> halibut: I'm guessing you'll be needing a kernel update & patches, for the looks of this: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mjbommar/notes/broadcom.html
<7> bye
<5> I would like to ask soem information regarding the server edition of ubuntu
<8> !xgl
<3> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/";
<1> ok ill download the version manually then
<9> lastnode: I've lost it aswell!
<4> nagulator, ask away.
<2> !server
<5> I am a fedora/centos user, bear that in mind
<4> nagulator, just ask :)
<10> can we shoot you now?:0
<0> Tinned_Tuna, :)
<2> nagulator, type !server
<11> Frogzoo, ag, but ndiswrapper should still work?
<6> halibut: seems so - is that what you're doing - ndiswrapper?
<5> thanks fujitsu: how complete are the packages available in the server edition compared to the desktop one, and what is to be the release cycle for updating the server edition as a whole
<5> !server
<2> !tell nagulator about server
<9> lastnode: ah, found it, there's an icon above the send button for me and in the top right corner of the convo window
<5> going there mates
<12> sorry, is that xgl / expose fast, like the same speeds expose has
<0> Tinned_Tuna, says behind im firewall or router.
<4> nagulator, they have the same packages available...
<2> morrowyn: well considering the graphics cards on macs stink... yes.
<6> I'd like suggestions as to what are people's favourite apps - suitable for an SOE pls...
<13> !tell me about life
<2> morrowyn: you are really only limited by your gfx card.
<5> fujitsu: you mean the repository is the same for both?
<5> interesting
<9> yea, it will say that if you have a firewall/NAT router, it may not work, I'm lucky, my router is p2p friendly, so I can do webcam etc, some are not
<4> nagulator, yes.
<4> nagulator, just a different set of default packages.
<11> Frogzoo, no ndiswrapper, I was following this advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear I am guessing I will have to try ndiswrapper now though
<2> !ndiswrapper
<3> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
<14> halibut: what model bcm card is it? 43xx?
<6> halibut: looks like the way to go - or upgrade to 2.6.17 & patch
<11> SurfnKid, yeah
<14> halibut: on what computer?
<5> ok so if I wanted a complete workbench i should go for server since you can have all the desktop candy there too; i know it is just linux and you can do everything, but if something is premade you should not unless you absolutely need to
<9> lastnode: Try installing the latest firmware on your router
<15> can someone tell me what the difference between sources.lst and sources.list is PLS
<2> naulator: workbench???
<11> Frogzoo, is upgrade and patch difficult? does that require compile from scratch?
<5> yeah
<11> SurfnKid, the spec?
<9> lastnode: that often changes the routing algorithms to make it more p2p friendly
<2> dabbler: sources.list is the important one.
<5> a workbench for me is something that is both server + client
<4> nagulator, basically.
<4> Although you can get anything from either.
<2> nagulator: just install ubuntu, and add the stuff you want.
<15> ty
<14> halibut: TrueMobile 1300 1400 1100... yeh, whats your laptop?
<0> Tinned_Tuna, ok
<2> nagulator: no real reason to go the other way if you intend on running a desktop.
<5> well we will see how it behaves, I am monitoring all linux distros for a porject I am doing
<5> project*
<2> nagulator: of course, knowing computer security you know you should run all services on sep boxes etc... :)
<5> well troy_s I have some rather large computing needs
<11> SurfnKid, it is a desktop, via mobo, amd3700
<5> yes I know
<6> halibut: if you haven't built a kernel b4, it won't be straight forward, no, but you'll learn a LOT
<2> nagulator: don't we all.
<16> hey
<5> troy_s: lol
<17> Does anyone else experience a ~20 sec. delay at boot time with dapper? That turned up with the transition from 2.6.15-20 to -21. I thought it would go away with a fresh install from a release-CD, but it's still the same..
<6> stefg: sounds like ntp timing out...
<15> mine is about 40 sec :(
<14> halibut: oh ok nevermind, it might or might not work under the same ocnditions as me. but follow those instrucctions, so far Ive only seen those steps on the bcmwl5
<12> troy_s, okies, should be a problem then, expose here on my ibook is amazingly fast on a 9550 ati radeon
<6> stefg: dabbler either disable the ntp sync, or make the net come up during boot
<11> SurfnKid, here is the card: 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
<11> SurfnKid which instructions?
<6> SurfnKid: don't think 2.6.15 works for broadcom 4306
<2> morrowyn: exactly. ultimately, xgl will use the opengl implementation of your card.
<12> ok nice
<17> Frogzoo: no, it's much earlier in the boot-sequence. usplash says 'mounting foot fs' (running 2.6.15-23-k7, root is a 5GB reiserfs)
<12> im gonna install that xgl then , see how it goes
<2> morrowyn: so if you have a decent card, expect decent results. and it is still under heavy dev, so expect better performance monthly or so...
<14> Frogzoo: oh i see
<18> Ok
<18> DAO Dapper is done
<17> but checking thru the logs, i don't get a clue
<14> halibut: nevermind the instructions, just follow Frogzoo's directions :)
<2> morrowyn: but it is really just eye candy. you can setup various keybindings to do the same sort of thing (albeit perhaps not quite as visually)
<18> And it doesn't boot
<18> Great.
<4> What does it not do?
<2> darklegacy: what's your issue?
<6> SurfnKid: halibut I'd say ndiswrapper's the right approach
<18> I just re-burnt Dapper and it doesn't boot, again
<19> My D-Link Gigabit netzwork card doesn't work after dist-upgrading to dapper :(
<19> is this a known bug?
<2> darklegacy: have you md5summed the data?
<12> well i like the expose functionality, to get a good overview of all my open windows, since i **** at remembering them by name and such
<18> Yes
<20> DarkLegacy, have you set the BIOS to boot from the CD-rom?
<18> The ISO is "good".
<4> DarkLegacy, does it mention anything about booting from the CD?
<18> Saxin, Yes.
<12> also when they are grouped in the taskbar, i lose track
<21> help! I'm stuck with the broken wxwidgets2.6 library that I've installed on my breezer..
<2> morrowyn: you have a taskbar in ubuntu.
<11> !tell halibut about ndiswrapper
<18> Fujitsu: Cannot boot from this CD. Please use CD2 or try a BIOS Update.
<21> sudo make uninstall says nothing to be done for uninstall
<18> The latter is out of the question.
<12> yeah, but like i said, i lose track
<2> morrowyn: and you can customize the way it behaves regarding groupings.
<12> i need a visual overview, not a textual overview
<14> Frogzoo: thats what i meant, which i tried and worked for me
<2> darklegacy: how do you know the iso is good? you did a md5sum on it?
<22> hi what do i do with a file with an extension of .package ???
<19> lspci -v shows this http://pastebin.com/755174
<12> thats why i like the expose feature, the other eye candy i couldnt care less
<6> SurfnKid: ah, cool
<23> so how many people are having trouble with the 6.06 desktop iso?
<18> Alot.
<17> BTW, ntpdate seems no longer being enabled by default. sysv-rc-conf doesn't even show it
<2> morrowyn: i would say there is a good chance there is something out there to help you out specifically for that... not 100% certain though.
<20> DarkLegacy, old CD's?
<6> manicka: DVD worked nicely
<18> Saxin, no.
<20> hehe
<20> ok
<18> Just Dapper doesn't like my laptop's bios
<23> ended up downloading the alternate image
<18> That's all
<21> help! I'm stuck with the broken wxwidgets2.6 library that I've installed on my breezer..
<2> Darklegacy: what are you burning it with?
<21> sudo make uninstall says nothing to be done for uninstall
<24> the expose part is probably xgl's most useable feature... the new switcher is also nice
<14> Frogzoo: gave up on the instructions, until it said run the modprobe line, and whoala! shows up on the net adapters
<23> live cd is crap
<2> darklegacy: and did you test the md5sum on the dirs on the freshly burned disk?
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