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<0> frosgate: it makes sense, even if it is wildly out of proportion
<1> Syco54645, depends on what privileges the effective user id has
<2> zptao, feel free to create the first GPL-influenced gay channel.
<0> frosgate: take a look at their eula, it states something about defamation or slander
<3> zptao and frosgate #ubuntu-offtopic
<0> owner: k
<4> owner, my apologise
<3> lol
<5> varsendagger: hold one live in one hand and ground in another ;)
<1> Xenguy, that's true, but what isn't true is that ubuntu somehow favors, requires, or expects sudo more than any other unix environment
<6> sethk: well not root. would it ask for the root pw?
<7> can anyone help me change my resolution to 1280x1024?
<1> Syco54645, depends.
<8> sethk: well root is diabled by default :-)
<1> Xenguy, no, not true
<5> sudo su :)
<8> sethk: explain
<1> Xenguy, root is not disabled. were root disabled, the system would not even boot up
<8> sethk: you're splitting hairs, and obscuring more than revealing
<9> slavik, what did you mother tell you about rm -r / ?
<1> Xenguy, the situation is that for _one_ installation option, the root _p***word_ is not set during install
<1> Xenguy, no, I'm not
<6> Xenguy: run sudo p***wd root
<9> slavik, and by the way never do that
<6> Xenguy: then root will be "enabled"
<1> Xenguy, if you install using the expert option, for example, the root p***word is set, just as with any other linux distro
<3> sudo -i will give a root shell
<1> the root p***word not being set is absolutely nothing like root being "disabled"
<6> owner: doesnt sudo -s do the same thing?
<1> if you do ps aux, you'll see all the important processes run by root
<3> yes syco
<10> hello again.i have a new prob. i have root partition with about 150GB, i would like to send some data from home to root,but have no privilege,did i make a mistake by making the root so big, if not can somebody help me salve my prob
<6> sethk: alot of people just call it disabled because it appears to be
<8> silliness
<2> anyone know where the sysctl.conf file is? im too lazy to open the man :|
<1> Syco54645, that's the thing, though, it _doesn't_ appear to be
<6> sethk: to a windows user it does
<1> Syco54645, and since I always install using expert mode, it took me a while to figure out what was confusing everyone
<6> sethk: i knew that it wasnt and the pw was just scrambled, so i set a new one
<1> Syco54645, ok, but many people don't realize that
<5> zuhause01: you have to use sudo before cp ...
<11> does anybody on 64-bit have trouble installing kde themes?
<5> make a folder on the root partition that allows write priveledge to your user account ...
<1> every unix system has su, and has sudo, and you can configure it to use one, or both. Now, I don't disagree that sudo is frequently less dangerous
<5> then your user account will be able to write to that folder
<2> offtopic perhaps?
<5> XiCillin: use gnome :P
<3> the kanotix ppl say su and sux is better than sudo
<1> slavik, everything is on the root partition, either directly or via a mount point
<3> kdesu integrates quite well with just su
<2> XiCillin, what type of themes?
<12> i tend to use 'sux' :P
<6> sethk: like i always said ubuntu is great for people wanting to try linux, but to really use linux, it isnt quite ready. alot of people are coming here that have no computer knowledge (well they do, just not enough) and expecting a stable windows
<8> sethk: for me it's just a question of chosen defaults; of course one can always customize
<11> gnome is ok but i can kde super ast
<5> sethk: unless the /home dir is separate ...
<11> from kde-look.org,
<5> and the one on the root partition is a symlink ...
<10> i have my home on another HDD
<11> i go to 'install theme' select the .kth file and nothing happens
<2> XiCillin, what type. kwin/colour themes/icons???
<5> sethk: see? :P
<1> slavik, no, /home is mounted on / it is /home
<6> sethk: that and the repos are broken for alot of qt things at the moment
<5> sethk: in zuhause01's case, it's a symlink :)
<1> slavik, in unix everything is mounted on /, and a core principle of unix is that the details of the mount points don't matter
<13> what package do i need to compile and install something?
<1> slavik, ok, but a symlink to something mounted on /
<3> build-essential
<11> themes/icons
<5> sethk: but zuhause01's home dir is on a separate drive
<13> thanks
<1> slavik, so?
<2> XiCillin, window themes?
<10> yes
<6> slavik: why not have zuhause01 make a dir on / that he has write access to and have him make a symlink in home... just an idea
<5> home is physically not under / ... there is a symlink there to make it appear as such ...
<1> slavik, a core principle of unix is that whether you have one drive or 100 drives makes absolutely no difference
<11> eya
<1> slavik, no, you are confused. the fact that it is on a separate drive is entirely and completely irrelevant
<5> Syco54645: he said he wanted to move things from home to general / (which is 160gb according to him)
<1> slavik, there is no difference whatsoever between a partition on the same drive or a partition on some other drive
<10> yes
<10> :)
<1> slavik, in some cases, even a partition on another machine altogether
<6> slavik: well then have him make a directory on general / that he can write to and symlink to it. it works, i do it all the time
<5> Syco54645: the solution I gave zuhause01 solves exactly the problem he described, no more no less :P
<1> slavik, so? it is all just storage. and it is all mounted under /. devices are under /. network is under / in /dev. everything looks like one big file system
<6> slavik: that way he would just have to move stuff to /home/foobar and then rock out
<1> slavik, there is no dispute about that
<6> slavik: well if he has to do it as sudo every time that would get rather annoying
<5> Syco54645: the one after that
<1> slavik,but you are confusing making something appear to be in the /home subtree with making something not be under / at all.
<6> slavik: oh i missed that one
<5> sethk: what are you trying to argue?
<6> ok
<6> i am going to bed
<6> later guys
<1> slavik, that there are no cases where something is not mounted under /
<10> i think i made a mistake making the root so big
<14> anyone here using audacity 1.2.4 or 1.30beta?
<0> I hope you change your opinion of me slavik, i foresee much pleasure
<1> zuhause01, why?
<5> zuhause01: single partition ;)
<1> zuhause01, gives you maximum flexibility with zero down side
<14> wondering if anyone had a stable, widely used .deb from dapper that works well with breezy for audacity?
<0> !lart
<1> zuhause01, how can that be a mistake?
<0> !lart zptao
<10> hmm
<1> zptao, either the bot is away, or it won't speak to you :)
<0> :(
<0> !lart zptao what do you do thats so interesting?
<15> !botsnack
<16> thanks bluesbrothers :)
<1> !botsnack
<1> doesn't like me either. :)
<10> :)
<17> hey guys, I just did a fresh install of kubuntu....I can't find a MythTV package? I thought that ubuntu had MythTV
<8> ubotu: lart is foo that bar...
<1> oh, actually, it does, it opens a separate conversation
<1> then yelled at me for repeating a question :)
<8> heh, larts not allowed - how tame
<10> why should it not be a mistake
<1> zuhause01, why should it be a mistake? a mistake is something that can hurt you in some way
<12> !info mythtv
<1> zuhause01, it can't hurt you in any way, so it isn't a mistake
<16> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
<18> can someone tell me how to put NExS on my Ubuntu?
<8> !info lart
<19> How do i delete a profile in Gdesklets?
<10> true, it doesnt
<2> Angel_Dex, right click, Remove Desklet
<1> zuhause01, and it doesn't restrict you in any way from controlling the privileges on any part of the file system
<10> where can i find literature on how to work out my prob.?
<1> zuhause01, I forgot what your problem is, actually :)
<10> :)
<12> me to.
<1> I think I forgot what _my_ problem is :)
<10> to move data from home to root
<1> zuhause01, mv
<20> hello
<10> hello
<1> zuhause01, if you mean move some space from root to look like it's in home, you can use a sym link for that
<19> Toma- i started a desklet that i cant seem to attach to my desktop infodomestics bar i think it is? it stays on my curser and all i can do is click It right clicking doesnt show the remove thing
<1> zuhause01, but, if you didn't have a separate home in the first place, the problem wouldn't exist
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