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<0> least i now know NOT to let yast2 install gtk-qt parts now..
<1> i have opera, gaim, emacs and a terminal running
<1> that's all
<2> i-nZ: top should tell you.. but the info is a bit cryptic sometimes
<2> i-nZ: to be fair to gnome I believe 2.14 is a lot better
<1> i still get confused with all the types of memory
<1> shared, rss, virtual
<1> shared is okay - shared among processes
<1> virtual and rss confuse me
<1> :)
<1> i end up looking and memory maps :D
<2> i-nZ: I think virt is what you want.. but I'm not exactly on top of these things either.. think virt is ram+swap combined
<1> 500mb virtual memory for xgl
<2> i-nZ: god damn it
<1> but i think resident is the real memory taken
<3> ... am running xgl ... why is my ram going away
<2> i-nZ: you're running xgl and you wonder why you have problems?
<1> i never had problems with the very first cvs version of xgl
<4> Yo!
<2> doesn't matter .. xgl should've been your first suspect.. instead you blame suse and all kinds of stuff.. :(
<1> well i can blame novell then ;))
<1> but again that is virtua
<2> i-nZ: blame yourself.. xgl is not ready for widespread usage
<3> am never ever gonna be working in thech support unless i feel like going in for murder one ....
<4> lol
<4> bill-barriere: I know how you feel
<0> what is the diff tween running firefox-bin and firefox.sh mates?..
<0> wierd how diff the outcome can be tween the two..
<5> tech9iner, shut up!!!
<5> Oops. Heh.
<0> lmao.. love and missed you too aTypical !!!! roflmfao
<0> how's prison aTypical ? ;]]
<5> Howdy, tech9iner. Prison's ok, but the showers are a bitch.
<0> hahahah
<0> doncha mean the 'bitchz IN or BEHIND ye in the shower' tho aTypical ? hehe
<6> tech9iner: the script has special stuff, like plugin paths, and checking for an already running firefox
<7> BIG PROBLEM
<0> cool tx frb .. never had asked or googled the diff b4..
<7> the only thing i can think to do is reinstall
<8> nn all
<7> ok can someone help with gfx card drivers....
<7> i installed them and now the screen is blank
<7> and i ran the sax2 thing
<7> but it didnt do anything
<7> so basically im ****ed
<7> any body able to help pleasE?
<7> anyone
<3> pppffft there is no **** thing going on in jail unless your down to the pen... why get someone in the shower when you just gotta go see the wing bitch ...
<3> heh did i scared him :)
<9> hey whats the command /msg nickserv indentify <pasword> ???
<9> anyone?
<7> somebody please
<7> whats the prob jxmiller
<7> can someone help me with gfx drivers...my screen wont work
<10> yes jxmiller
<4> rlynn: what drivers?
<7> i ran tiny nvidia installer --update
<7> im trying to get xgl and compiz...
<0> so mates.. just noticed in yast2 pckg mngr on suse10.0 here.. my gnome-vfs2 is showing version '2.12.2-61 i586' .. can someone confirm please?.. gnome 2.12 things mayby could break my kde 352 updates again ?.. or irrelavant please?
<7> butg anyway
<7> so then i ran sax2 but my screen is blank
<7> btw i ran it all from init 3
<4> what command did you run for sax2?
<7> and also i forgot to run sax 2 before exiting into init5 and my screen was blank so i went back and ran it
<7> sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia
<4> you only need to run init 5
<7> ok
<4> nvidia driver should just work without the need to run sax2
<9> scarn well its not working
<7> yes but my screen went blank and the only way i can see something is with ctrl alt f1
<10> nvidia SUSE instructions say otherwise..
<4> run sax2 -m 0=vesa
<9> nickserv is saying unknown command "identify"
<7> i was told by someone on this channel to run the tiny nvidia installer --update in init 3, then run sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia
<4> sure that works, but you dont need to
<4> just going to innt 5 does the same
<10> hmmm, thats what i do in connect command
<4> init 5*
<0> bill-barriere you're still on 10.0 aye?..
<3> nope
<0> oi.. mybad..
<9> ohh well I guess I will not log in /shrug
<0> was it benJIman on 10.0?..
<7> ok so what exactly do i need to do...i have a blank screen so i dont have a desktop pjust a prompt
<4> sax2 -m 0=vesa
<7> from the prompt ok ill try ill be back
<0> im 2nd guessing all my manual pckg downgrades at 1am now dammit..
<7> o and is init 5 default?
<7> and also is there any way i can restore my WORKING computer?
<4> that startx xorg
<10> jxmiller, u are leaving out the < > i hope?
<9> scarn yes sir
<4> rlynn: just run that command
<10> had to ask ;p
<7> ok ill be back
<3> tech9iner, does your box work atm ?
<10> hmm odd
<0> atm being the operative word.. but yes bill-barriere
<9> its this + the p***word: /msg nickserv indentify
<3> well leave it alone and be happy
<0> jolly good pt bill-barriere hehe
<0> but those damned kde 3.5.2 mag wheels are sooooo shiny cross the void tho bill-barriere !! lmao
<3> :/
<3> well do it then, and stop asking for us to hold your hand through the whole process
<11> Does 10.1 come with the DRI drivers for ATI cards?
<11> If so, are they installed by default?
<12> not installed by default
<12> i believe you have to build them
<3> Motoko-chan, only the gplled driver
<3> SuSEhelp, ati
<13> On SUSE Linux 10.x, download the latest drivers from http://www.ati.com , then follow these instructions: http://jarpack.net/ati-driver-how-to
<0> tsk tsk now bill-barriere lol.. i asked about one file version confirmation ?..
<12> SuSEhelp, mirrors
<13> For inst-sources: < http://www.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version >. For ISOs: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/mirrors_isos.html
<11> bill-barriere, the dri driver
<11> Not ATI's
<11> The binary one doesn't do Mobility 7500
<3> well then just use the radeon driver thats there by default
<11> But the DRI driver isn't in base XOrg (afaik)
<3> the binary driver doesnt support <8500 ati card
<11> Correct.
<11> But the DRI project supports older cards.
<3> use the radeon driver
<12> anyone have a problem installing the ati drivers in 10.1 due to wrong libexpat library?
<3> kary, your trying to use some old version of the driver
<9> here goes a question probably already asked a few times : how do you uninstall Xgl ? Do I need to uninstall compiz too? If so how ? I am new and my guess is (for Xgl) change displaymanager file to read "DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER="Xorg" and I would thisn run SuSEconfig again but that seems too simple
<12> its the latest one i downloaded from ati
<12> i just got it :)
<3> kary unless your on a 64bit box
<12> nope, 32
<11> jxmiller, just disable xgl.
<9> lmao
<9> where do I find that setting?
<11> If you are using Gnome, go into the Desktop Effects part of the Display control panel.
<9> KDE
<11> For KDE, dunno.
<4> jxmiller: Just uninstall Xgl and compiz in YaST
<9> ok I will try that SuseUX
<9> thanks
<14> j ##windows
<11> Looks like you can also edit /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
<11> Line: DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER
<11> Switch from xgl to xorg
<11> Xgl -> Xorg
<9> yeah DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER="Xorg
<7> ok it works
<7> thanks alot
<9> YaST seems simpler I hope it doesnt foul anything up
<7> no all i have to do is get compiz and xgl to work...
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