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<0> well i just tried it many many times
<0> and the same error kept happening
<1> click on the link above morphix it will down it and then you can install it from your hard drive
<2> delete all sources from yast?
<1> josh did you try yast -i y2pmsh
<2> bash: yast: command not found
<2> yes
<1> josh... you have to be root
<2> will a su command work?
<3> su -
<1> yes
<1> frb, su -?
<4> what's the difference between packages for -i586 and the ones for -i686
<3> it gives you a clean environment
<1> ahh
<2> i just did simple su
<3> with just su, you get leftover env vars that can cause issues, like files in your homedir owned by root
<1> jetscreamer: i686 is optimized for the i686 processor
<0> i cant remove the sources from yast.. because when i click finish.. it wont exit
<4> is that intel or x64
<2> blue screen now in terminal and YasT something.. loading
<4> either way, not for me though
<1> morphix: it will exit... but it could take 10-20 minutes
<0> well thats great to know
<5> anybody here working for suse directly?
<1> jetscreamer: no chances are it is for you
<2> hmm insert suse linux dvd...
<0> i ***ume that y2pmsh is on the suse media
<1> yep
<5> i just had an idea to improve usability on the suse linux enterprise desktop even further
<1> if you click the link above you can download and install locally
<2> so should i start over and type what kind of su command>
<1> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/i586/y2pmsh-2.13.3-6.i586.rpm
<3> I like smart better
<1> josh: you are fine
<6> now i have lost the patch name just great =(
<3> y2pmsh's search is case sensitive
<1> put in the dvd
<3> ah, I know what I'll do right now
<3> I'll build a new samba to make my fileserver stop ****ing
<3> !8ball should I watch eternal sunshine?
<7> frb: Reply hazy, try again.
<1> frb, they are using y2pmsh to install smart
<2> gag me I put in the dvd (its dark in the room) and not knowing had Shrek movie in and closed the drive... almost had a bad accident
<5> SuSEhelp: are you a suse employee?
<3> sPiN: why not just install smart? all it's deps are in the normal suse install
<3> bot, bot
<7> Rumour has it bot is fine ...
<3> bot, !bot
<1> frb, no they arent
<5> damn
<8> heh nice quote that would be
<1> there is a python-rpm dep
<8> <5> SuSEhelp: are you a suse employee?
<9> hehe
<5> hehe
<0> yay yast finally closed.. and now yast -i y2pmsh worked :)
<2> ok all at 100% installed
<5> anyhow anybody working for suse here?
<3> humbolt: why do you care?
<9> Geeko gets to be on the box and drive around in a Lexus, all SuSEhelp gets is work.
<8> dont bug them
<2> ahh there we go more work to be done
<8> bug the ones that are paid to be bugged
<8> aka salesperson
<5> frb: because I am just looking at the SLED press video and had an idea of how to improve usability even further with just a small adaption
<3> humbolt: they have email
<10> its open source, do it, let everyone know, and mail em ;p
<5> and I would love to see that implemented, because actually the lack of it troubles me every day
<9> humbolt: SuSEhelp is part of the dev team, he decides which packages will be included with releases and stuff, all decisions are made via !bball
<2> I got a very broad question .. when do you guys think linux distros will become widely used in peoples homes?
<8> humbolt, no new features will go as its already in beta
<5> jaja
<3> josh: when vista is released and everyone hates it
<8> josh, right now
<9> !8ball should we use netbeans?
<7> Grommet: Reply hazy, try again.
<10> LOL
<2> frb i agree that will accellerate things
<10> !8ball should we switch over to a microkernel?
<7> Faileas: Very doubtful.
<9> lol
<10> not bad ;p
<2> i tried vista and it ****s ~450MB page file on boot
<5> did you ever open a file manager to find an attachment for your email and want to drag and drop it into the app? sure, everybody has does that at least once, right?!
<5> it always kind of ****s, because the email window might be under the filemanager window and you can't straigt drag and drop
<2> ok i ran yast -i y2pmsh and it did its thing now what
<8> humbolt, definitelynot gonna happen a change in there. Have a nice day.
<5> so you have to go through the task bar
<1> josh, it is likely just reserveing that space
<2> sPiN i dont follow
<0> also vista isnt on a final release yet.. its still all beta versions.
<3> humbolt: no problem
<2> I will just try the next step from the howto page
<1> when i start winxp, my pagefile is 1536MB
<1> cause i set it to be 1536MB min and max
<0> i dont have a pagefile.. :)
<2> gag me sPiN
<3> humbolt: if you hover over the target in the tasklist on the kicker, it pops up the target window
<2> XP boot for me is ~75-85MB
<5> but it would be so much simpler if you just could hit <tab> and the <alt>+<tab> switching window shows up and you can simply drop it on the icon or preview there.
<3> I would expect gnome does the same thing, since Windows has done it forever
<1> vista likely has a 450MB min
<5> frb: yes, but it takes some time until the window pops up!
<1> josh: that is because xp by default has a 0MB min page file and the max is ram * 150%
<8> humbolt, and if you want a feature in an ap go bug the app project not novell
<2> I tweaked the hell out of Vista and got it down to 350MB on boot
<5> frb: usability wise a slow-down
<3> humbolt: 90% of the users can't use the keyboard and mouse at the same time
<1> josh: you arent understanding the concept of a page file
<3> windows memory is a scary beast
<11> !mp3
<7> For MP3 Support in Suse 10 or 10.1, check <http://spinink.net/suse-for-windows-users/#mp3 : For Suse 9.3 just run YOU (Yast Online Update) and choose to install the extra multimedia packages.
<5> true, but 90% can not even drag and drop!!!! really I am not kidding. they can't even alt+tab!!!!
<2> isn't it an area on the HD allocated for memory swap?
<6> =(
<0> SuSEhelp, mirrors
<7> For inst-sources: < http://www.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version >. For ISOs: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/mirrors_isos.html
<0> clear
<0> er
<5> frb: but those who can will be a lot faster that way!
<1> josh, yes but you arent understanding that xp uses a min and max value for its size
<0> where is the list of yast sources again? so i can add them to smart.
<3> morphix: smart comes with a list
<1> morphix: they are added my default in smart
<3> just run smart update
<0> oh ok..
<1> the only source missing is gnome supp source
<3> but no one runs gnome anyway :)
<1> josh: so the space is reservered, it is not actually paged data
<3> sPiN: it's more different than that
<5> frb: actually I just saw, at least using alt+tab while drag and drop already works, does not matter that you can't drop the file right on the alt+tab preview symbol
<2> yeah but this is how I kinda see it even though Its not 100% way to view it...
<1> frb?
<3> windows memory management is scary
<3> I read an article on it once, it's nothing like the unix model
<2> I got 512MB ram and boot to a page file of 75MB ... if I boot to vista at 450MB to run at the same efficiency as I did in XP I would need about 4GB RAM
<2> lol
<1> josh: do you understand the cocept of a MIN and MAX?
<3> go ask quux on ##windows
<1> concept even
<12> when you first move to linux from windows, you realize how much different linux handles memory
<3> I don't want to hear anything about windows memeory management here
<0> windows = ram whore
<1> you know what screw it, if you havent gotten it yet, you arent going to
<2> I am only taking Windows I have no idea about how linux does it
<5> SLED looks really cool! If they have everything they show in gnome in kde also, I'll buy it and I'll migrate lots of businesses!
<2> talking*
<3> josh: then stop talking
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