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<0> incidentally all of these systems are SuSE, so this is even on-topic :) <0> Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We run out of space fast too :/ <1> So, anybody here yet who knows how I can get GRUB back into my MBR? <2> any idea why Slax live-cd won't connect to internet ? I put in there pre compiled PPP moule <2> module <0> Ancient1: you are dialing up or ..? <0> teknopagn: what is there now? <1> Stupid windows overwrote it. <2> not dial-up, Cables Modem with ISP login script <1> I'm setting up a dual boot machine for a coworker <0> Ancient1: Ah, right - unfortunately it's been a while, but I set that up under debian - never done a cable hookup using suse <2> jplibre SLax is slackware based <0> teknopagn: so right now windows just boots? <2> I have an installer script <1> Heh, sorta <1> YAY!
<0> Ancient1: Ah, okay ... I'm an old slackware person myself, but I haven't really used it since 1997 <3> anyone here use gaim? <4> hello all <1> I got into my suse install, I can fix GRUB from here <0> teknopagn: I would use the instal.....Right, you're set now <4> has anyone installed wow on suse ? <0> penguinplayer: yep <3> im missing the sound notifications <1> now all I need to do is figure out why windows won't boot. <3> any idea where to get them.. or if i already got them and i dont know it. what dir would they be in <2> jplibre i did exactly what I did in Suse. beside copying a pre compiled PPP mod <0> mbeach: world of warcraft? I leave the games to windows unfortunately. Are you talking about winex? <4> wine <0> teknopagn: that is a dark art <5> wow works in wine, it's a bit tricky ro setup but it works <5> to* <2> teknopagn did u use FIXMBR ? <5> mbeach: you'll get the best help in #winehq <4> ok ill see what happens i am installing noe <4> noe = now <1> Ancient1 - nope <5> mbeach: better read the howto first <4> yeah i read it <0> which card do you have <0> mbeach <4> sounds fun <5> http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:wine:worldofwarcraft <-- this one? <6> anyone know the best way to upgrade to Amarok 1.4 beta easily in SuSE 10.1 <7> penguinplayer: Sounds can be configured in GAIM's preferences -> Right click on the Icon in the task bar / notification area and then go to "Interface -> Sounds" <3> well i got that. but like.. what directory are the sounds located at <0> penguinplayer: ah, I don't actually use the sound notifications ... sorry <1> I'm headed home for the day - later, folks <0> later <2> bye <3> oh ok <8> skuttler, add repo: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS/ <6> cheers detlef <9> skuttler: to amarok 1.4.0 final, even <1> I mean that literally - I'll probably be back on once I get home...hehe <9> !amarok <10> np: Gamma Ray - Miracle (0:05 / 7:55) <11> For latest amarok packages, add the guru repository (ask me about guru-yast) or get them here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Sound/amarok | Also make sure to install the package "amarok-xine" and "libxine1" from packman (ask me about packman-yast) <4> how do i get to Xwinehq <4> #winehq <6> wow yaloki it is final - fantastic news <3> amarok is finally to 1.4? <9> yes, since a week <0> nice <9> was released as final last wednesday <3> oh <2> penguinplayer u could use search or restart the control center with the hope it'll show the folder <0> I missed the fireworks <3> yeah no luck so far <0> we're thinking of moving all our production systems to 10.1 <6> i am told the ipod support is really good in 1.4 <0> anyone here know of particular issues still left over from 10.0? <2> jplibre isn't that too early ? it just came out <0> and also, when is the box version out? we always buy one copy just to have it <9> jplibre: be really, really careful, the package management on 10.1 has major issues at the moment <9> jplibre: using y2pmsh or smart on 10.1 is highly advisable <0> Ancient1: well, the way suse seems to work is that it incrementally improves with each minor.
<0> yaloki: Ah, okay. I'm installing it in a test environment of 5 systems first <9> that's true for 10.1 - the new package management <9> 10.1 is awesome, except that part <9> unfortunately it's a critical part <0> I'm more used to the debian model <9> fortunately there are alternatives, smart and y2pmsh (y2pmsh still uses the "old" yast2 package management engine) <0> stable/testing/unstable and apt <9> !smart <11> smart is a great package management frontend that supports many repository formats - more info on http://smartpm.org - grab SUSE RPMs here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=System/smart/ | there's also a spoon-fed howto by sPiN: http://spinink.net/2006/05/20/installing-smart-package-manager/ <0> Hmmm <9> jplibre: you could use apt on SUSE, actually apt packages are available on the SUSE 10.1 FTP tree <12> jplibre: thankfully, the 10.1 package mangement tools are taking a step towards the debian model of shared install/update pools <9> jplibre: but it's apt-rpm, a port to RPM, and I'd rather recommend having a look at smart, it's really nice :) <6> yeah package management ****s - like now i've jsut added a repository and it will take about 5 minutes to add it <12> jplibre: unfortunateyl, the polish isn't as strong as it is on debian's package management stuff, but it is pretty incredible given that the team did it in a few months. :) <0> Actually, we have an in-house infrastructure setup here - I just started working with these large SuSE-based farms <0> I need to look at smart ... <13> Smart=coolies <0> okay, and y2pmsh is like the current/old yast2? <13> And fm-get is cool too <13> I've never used y2pmsh <6> it so annoys me how "signature check failed ignores my selection to not show this message again <13> or heard of it 0_o :P <14> jplibre, its old yast but it still work <0> so smart will deal well with custom local package repositories <13> Everyone knows that fm-get is cool ;] <7> i can't understang how to resolve conflicts with SMART.... vlc wants to remove mDnsResponder and many of my -devels depend on it <7> kdesdk-devel for example <0> mmm <0> we have systems ranging from 8.2 up to 9.3 <14> yew <0> it's a 24/7/365 environment, have to be careful <0> but yeah <0> yew <0> and the 9.1 tree just got 'discontinued' <2> i-nZ I would be very interested in the solution u will find ;) <0> with good reason ... but that pushes those upgrades to the fore <9> jplibre: yes, y2pmsh still uses the engine of the 10.0 yast2 <0> sarnold, yaloki, bill-barriere: would you recommend going with smart over apt-rpm at this point? <9> jplibre: y2pmsh has been around since quite some time, it's a CLI shell to the yast2 package management engine <12> jplibre: definitely, smart over apt-rpm. <9> jplibre: I would recommend smart as well <14> of course <12> jplibre: the question is, smart over y2pmsh / yast / rug-zmd <14> bad bad bad apt <0> okay - seems to make sense <12> jplibre: .. for that, you'll just have to try them out and see what works best for you <0> apt is great. I'm a debian person and have been for many years <12> jplibre: apt on debian is fantastic. <0> but I like that suse is coming along in the same direction <14> suse aint debian <12> jplibre: apt with rpm is less pleasing.. :-( <9> sarnold: smart > rug/zmd, definitely at the moment <14> SuSEhelp, bottomline <11> you use debian, do things the debian way, you use suse, do things the suse way, you use redhat, you do things the redhat way <0> yes . :) <0> right, right, I read you ... that's why I'm learning more about suse now. <15> if rollback worked, rug would be > all ;) <0> Now if only postgres would overtake oracle I'd be happy <9> cenuij: rollback doesn't work properly with RPM yet <15> yaloki: i mean rollback as a feature of rug & zmd <15> or is it supposed to be related to rpm? <9> I'm afraid it would need to be supported by rpm in the first place <9> it's just not that simple to roll back on the layer above <9> that's the aptitude syndrome on debian <9> it can uninstall packages that were automatically added to installation because of dependencies <15> ok, but then why is there rollback funtionality in rug? <9> but if you happen to install a deb using dpkg and not aptitude, then it won't work properly <9> maybe it records a list of all installed packages at some time <9> some kind of "snapshots" <9> and you can revert to those, I don't know <0> bill-barriere: what is the redhat way these days? <14> no idea
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