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<bill-barriere> freaking avahi compat thingy ... had to remove it from gnome to get kdevelop still depending on old mdnsresponder to work
<SpooForBrains> pineapple: there are a couple of options
<cytrak> how can I mount an iso with read-write
<pineapple> ok
<SpooForBrains> the easiest and quickest is to mount the share
<frb-work> cytrak: you can't
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: oh yea.. that's really ****ed up there
<pineapple> so just do mount computer name location?
<frb-work> cytrak: iso9660 is a read-only filesystem, you recreate the image on every modification
<SpooForBrains> mount //ipaddress/sharename /path/to/mountpoint -o username=blah,p***word=blah
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: i can't install vlc because of the avahi/mdnsresponder crap
<SpooForBrains> the p***word part is optional
<pineapple> ok
<SpooForBrains> note the forward slashes
<Grommet> worked :)
<bill-barriere> avahi-compat-mdns*yadathingy* seem to miss some require
<SpooForBrains> the nice GUI way is to configure the samba client using YaST and then ... I dunno, browse using KDE, I've never done it that way
<pineapple> is that more for computers with a static ip
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: it's not that... it is that the two conflict badly on each other as it seems
<cytrak> frb: hmm that's not true I want to modify the image and then recreate the iso
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: you can't have them both and the problem is that so many things depend on *both*
<SpooForBrains> pineapple: which? the way I mentioned?
<bill-barriere> yes they do same thing of course they conflict
<pineapple> the mount way
<bill-barriere> you either have one or the other
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: but i can't have vlc, because it wants to remove all of mdnsresponder and everything that uses it :)
<frb-work> cytrak: you extract all the files, replace them, then recreate
<i-nZ> and that's cause it depends on avahi-compat
<SpooForBrains> I put the IP address because it's a reliable way of finding the machines. It won't always detect the netbios name
<pineapple> ok
<i-nZ> (wants to remove kdevelop too :P )
<cytrak> frb: you mean mount the iso and then just copy all file to another location in the HD ?
<frb-work> cytrak: yes
<cytrak> got it
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: you need a WINS server
<SpooForBrains> frb-work: quite possibly
<bill-barriere> avahi-compat-mdnsresponder look alright its the devel that miss a require
<SpooForBrains> although it can sometimes be useful. Goes over VPNs much better than NFS for one thing
<bill-barriere> require/provide
<Grommet> lol
<i-nZ> any decent dc++ software for linux ?
<benJIman> microdc is a good command line client
<benJIman> valknut is about the best gui client, and it ****s like all dc clients
<benJIman> dc++ is pretty bad anyway
<SpooForBrains> When I was using dc++ I was usually downloading stuff from a couple of guys that were getting it off bittorrent anyway ... :)
<SpooForBrains> "Does it make you wonder, boys?" "Oh, yeah, it makes us wonder ..."
<frb-work> p2p is worthless :P
<SpooForBrains> p2p is NOT worthless! p2p is LIFE!
<SpooForBrains> (that's only funny if you've seen Mystery Men)
<frb-work> I have
<frb-work> it would have been funnier if I said p2p is dead
<SpooForBrains> it would
<Ancient1> Hello Suse Community !
<SpooForBrains> but it doesn't matter, because p2p is protected ...
<SpooForBrains> ... by the GOD OF HAIRCARE!
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: sorry, but there just isn't enough beer in the world
<SpooForBrains> wha?
<Ancient1> I need a small distro to install on a 1.2Gb HDD in a P450/128Mb TNT1(16Mb) system . suggestions , plz ?
<SpooForBrains> Ancient1: Damn Small Linux
<raystorm> puppy linux
<sarnold> Ancient1: suse, debian, slackware, could all be configured to easily fit
<SpooForBrains> to quote a greater man than me, "the clue is in the name!"
<sarnold> Ancient1: i'm less certain on fedora, mandrake, gentoo, but i believe any of those could be configured to fit in that environment too.
<kaiSVK> hi all
<Ancient1> I have SLAX CD here, but I need a system with low requirements. Suse,for example, needs alot to run KDE
<Ancient1> heya kaiSVK
<SpooForBrains> Ancient1: then don't run KDE
<sarnold> Ancient1: do you need KDE?
<SpooForBrains> there's fluxbox, or XFCE
<SpooForBrains> both have a small footprint
<kaiSVK> Ancient1, hey ... I am still thinking about compiling my own kernel ... dont know if it solve my problems
<sarnold> or windowmaker or ion3 or fvwm or twm or any of a lot of environments :)
<Ancient1> no, i don't. i need gfx UI and NTFS access (linux-ntfs.org)
<Ancient1> sarnold how would I install Suse if it defaults to KDE/Gnome ?
<sarnold> Ancient1: definitely look at xfce, windowmaker, qvwm (is that right)? and icewm
<sarnold> Ancient1: _defaults_
<sarnold> Ancient1: you can do whatever you please with a minimal text install.... they are just packages. :)
<ircdevil> i suspect i cannot build the perl modules GD::SVG because i am missing some svg libs. how do i confirm that?
<Ancient1> sarnold defaults ? what is minimal text install ? I'm a noob basically
<sarnold> Ancient1: "default" means "the option you get if you don't do something different"
<sarnold> Ancient1: just because suse "defaults" to kde or gnome doesn't mean _YOU_ have to use it!
<SpooForBrains> Ancient1: it installs the minimum amount of packages to boot the system to a text based console with networking
<SpooForBrains> you can then manually add packages with YaST
<sarnold> Ancient1: when you install a system, you can select "minimal text install", then use yast -i or smart or y2pmsh or whatever you want to install exactly the packages you want to use
<SpooForBrains> it's good for the soul to do a minimal installation occasionally :)
<Ancient1> so I should start with "Safe Mode" so to speak
<sarnold> Ancient1: this includes things like X :) and window managers
<SpooForBrains> Ancient1: no, it's nothing like safe mode
<Ancient1> SpooForBrains LOL
<SpooForBrains> safe mode just turns stuff off. Badly, usually
<Ancient1> yeah, I just might do minimal install, looks like a good occasion to learn
<sarnold> Ancient1: definitely :)
<SpooForBrains> a minimal suse install (300MBish last time I did it) is a fully functional machine, just without a lot of the nicities
<kommerck> !pin ps
<SuSEhelp> kommerck: No Results Found
<kommerck> ?
<sarnold> Ancient1: i _always_ do a minimal install and just install what packages I need as I find I need them. it makes initial setup time so much faster, and then I only need to update the software I actually use, for security updates and the like
<SpooForBrains> sarnold: I had to do it with this machine to install it at all - no external media, so I had to hop the HDD over to another machine
<SpooForBrains> I'm so lazy I still haven't set the default runlevel to 5, and I've been using it a month
<sarnold> SpooForBrains: hehe, i have a machine like that :)
<Ancient1> I wish it was so simple.. i need to test something NOW , but while trying I discovered i can't access NTFS from the winME I have on that 1.2Gb HDD, so why not linux :)
<sarnold> Ancient1: hehehe
<SpooForBrains> Ancient1: you could use INSERT
<SpooForBrains> www.insert.cd
<SpooForBrains> it's a bootable live CD with Captive NTFS read/write support built in
<Ancient1> don't even ask
<SpooForBrains> only 50MB too
<pineapple> anyone know how to set up samba so I can access shared files on the other windows computers?
<sarnold> SpooForBrains: cool
<SpooForBrains> pineapple: use the YaST samba server ... thingie
<SpooForBrains> under Network Services
<Ancient1> ah. nice to know . but I actually need to do d/l test on the NIC vs USB i use on my main PC
<wasynyt> or samba client
<pineapple> lol, I tried that but I'm not sure how to configure it
<SpooForBrains> oh, right, sorry, misread the question
<wasynyt> :D
<pineapple> is it samba server or samba client that I need to use?
<SpooForBrains> pineapple: both, possibly. Do you want to share files FROM your machine or just read files from other people's machines
<SpooForBrains> if you want to share files from your machine, use samba server. Otherwise just the client is fine
<pineapple> k
<astevens> pineapple: if you search google, you will find several walkthroughs for both
<pineapple> ok
<SpooForBrains> stick SUSE at the beginning, I would
<kaiSVK> hi again
<kaiSVK> Ancient1, sorry I had to do some quake things ;))))
<Ancient1> kaiSVK luck ? Quake3? 4 ?
<Ancient1> TOILET !! ahhh
<kaiSVK> Ancient1, no luck :D just skill ;)
<kaiSVK> QIII rules
<kaiSVK> !yastsources
<SuSEhelp> For more information about YaST sources and how to add them, check http://susewiki.apanela.com/goodlinks:yast_sources or http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToAddReposandSoftwarewithYastcli * Make sure to only refresh sources that will actually change, as depicted in this screenshot: http://spinink.net/images/screens/yast.jpg
<Ancient1> hmm used to play Q2 a lot
<JoaoJoao> I used to play Q1 a lot
<ohgood> anyone know of a more populated chanell than #openoffice ?
<SpooForBrains> #openoffice.org
<Ancient1> #suse ?
<Ancient1> :)
<raystorm> why not just /list?
<SpooForBrains> #voluptuous
<staroin> #kde
<kaiSVK> Ancient1, yeah thats right :D
<SpooForBrains> #youngteensingles
<Old--man> bill-barriere, Well Bill I got it figured out. It is a soft link that doesn't get updated. I replaced the link target with the ATI version of the library and I appear to be cooking with crisco now
<ohgood> good greif
<SpooForBrains> ohgood: you know what they say ... ask a sensible question ...
<bill-barriere> mmm
<ohgood> well, it seemed pretty sensible to me.
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