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<BluesKai> ok , ohgood ...I'll try
<BluesKai> can you suggesta source for gtranscode?
<BluesKai> it's not in yast
<ed3r> BluesKai do you know about apt?
<benJIman`> don't use apt
<BluesKai> apt-get ...well I've used it in the past in cmd line but I'm not really familiar
<klerfayt> ah f#k the xgl I don't need raindrops and water if I can't save session
<apokryphos> ed3r: consider using smart, it's very good.
<ed3r> [apokryphos]: ??
<apokryphos> !smart
<SuSEhelp> smart is a great package management frontend that supports many repository formats - more info on http://smartpm.org - grab SUSE RPMs here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=System/smart/
<BluesKai> in 10.1 ...smart won't work in my setup for some reason
<BluesKai> ?
<apokryphos> what's the error?
<ed3r> apokrypho but what are the differences between apt and smart?
<apokryphos> ed3r: smart is an entirely different package management system, and it can handle yast sources directly, as well as many others.
<BluesKai> I tried installing it , but it doesn't show up in the menu
<apokryphos> BluesKai: alt+f2 -> smart
<ed3r> apokryphos humm.. maybe i must use instead of apt
<ed3r> i should try
<apokryphos> ed3r: yup; it'll work more nicely on your suse box, too =)
<apokryphos> ed3r: enable gurus repository and install the latest version from there.
<BluesKai> well, bully for yoy apokryphos , but I'm a noob trying to learn , ok ?
<apokryphos> *guru's
<apokryphos> BluesKai: I didn't say that in a mean way, at all :)
<apokryphos> making an observation about myself -- recommending alt+f2 just reminded me I don't use it much.
<BluesKai> well, it din't come up
<apokryphos> BluesKai: what does it say?
<BluesKai> nothing happens
<ed3r> well, i'm using windows on a dual boot machine, can anybody tell me one good client for irc for linux?
<BluesKai> xchat
<apokryphos> BluesKai: in a terminal, type kdesu smart --gui .....what do you get?
<apokryphos> ed3r: konversation is good
<TaF> i love xchat
<TaF> im using it now biotch
<ed3r> bye bye, i will reboot
<apokryphos> *shudder*
<TaF> be back folks
<Termin8-0> !bfwn
<Termin8-0> !bfw
<Termin8-0> !tbfw
<BluesKai> apokryphos Unknown option '--gui
<Termin8-0> !battle-for-wesnorth
<apokryphos> BluesKai: ok, you don't have smart-gui installed
<co0kie> BluesKai: u didnt install gui for smart, did u?
<apokryphos> IMO smart packs on suse should just come with it, really.
<BluesKai> guess not :)
<co0kie> apokryphos: some ppl like just cli
<cenuij> apokryphos: i saw your post to the mailing list today
<BluesKai> I used the 5 cd install ...guess I din't know about smart at the time
<cenuij> apokryphos: but you top posted :P
<apokryphos> co0kie: yeah, so they can just use only CLI :P
<cenuij> apokryphos: people don't like it when you top post
<apokryphos> I bet more users than not use the gui too
<apokryphos> cenuij: top-post, sorry?
<co0kie> Termin8-0: http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#Wesnoth
<apokryphos> Don't partake much in mailing lists, I'm afraid 8)
<BluesKai> so where do i find smart ?
<cenuij> apokryphos: when you reply in a thread, dont post your reply at the top, post it underneath the previous content
<apokryphos> ahhh
<ed3r> now i'm using mirc on wine
<cenuij> apokryphos: in a long thread its confusing when ppl top post
<apokryphos> indeed, I see
<cenuij> apokryphos: people like to read the content above your post, so they know what you are talking about
<co0kie> BluesKai: guru's repo...
<apokryphos> cenuij: I'll definitely do that from now on; thanks for telling me =)
<cenuij> heh np :P
<apokryphos> cenuij: should I not snip when I respond in posts, too?
<cenuij> no thats fine, just put your reply underneath :)
<ed3r> any mythtv user here?
<apokryphos> cool
<klerfayt> I can confirm that xgl is quilty for not letting me log in then "sutomatic session saving" is activated
<wickers> If anyone wants to remove beagle from their system, I just wrote a small blurb on how to do just that:
<wickers> http://en.theweeklyrant.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=11
<wickers> (***uming you are using y2pmsh, the best freakin package manager SUSE has to offer ;) )
<wickers> apokryphos, solve after uninstalling?
<klerfayt> how do I disable IPV& globally?
<sPiN> wickers: you tried smart yet?
<apokryphos> wickers: solve in y2pmsh is for resolving the package dependencies, sure.
<klerfayt> *ipv6
<apokryphos> smart --shell is really just as good as y2pmsh, and no need to hit solve all the time and wait :P
<unition> whats a good ftp program for x ?
<wickers> apokryphos, and that's listed in the other y2pmsh blurb I wrote...
<wickers> apokryphos, this is about removing beagle.
<wickers> :D
<wickers> sPiN, yes, I did not like it... it also broke on me.
<apokryphos> wickers: yeah, but what I'm saying is there's no need to manually specify each one. Just removing beagle libbeagle and solve removes it all
<unition> nm gftp
<apokryphos> wickers: broke... how?
<sPiN> you tried yalokis new build from yesterday.. it has the sources preconfigured
<wickers> apokryphos, some function was not defined (probably a typo) and python tossed up an error.
<apokryphos> earlier ones always had packman and guru for example, but latest ones have mozilla, kde etc too -- nice
<apokryphos> wickers: try it now -- all you need is smart and smart-gui
<BlueSky> Hello. When I try to install from DVD, the installer finds NO packages. Media check was ok. What should I do?
<wickers> apokryphos, for the sake of consistency, I'll stick with y2pmsh when writing about SUSE.
<wickers> But I will try it again.
<wickers> hos let me try that out and i'll see for myself...
<wickers> one sec
<apokryphos> wickers: smart is better, too, because it has many other features
<apokryphos> such as mirrors, and multiple connections. Downloads are *very* fast; almost always uses up the max of my connection
<apokryphos> waiting-time is virtually non-consistent for me
<wickers> The fact that anyone using y2pmsh that has a novell support contract can get support directly form novell is another factor.
<apokryphos> where i.e. y2pmsh downloads each package individually, I could be downloading 5 packages at once from two different mirrors. You can see how that'd be better :)
<BluesKai> is there 3 finger salut equivalent in linux I can use to exit a stalled yast ?
<sarnold> BluesKai: kill <pid>
<no_gatez_fan> has anyone dloaded the 10.1 dvd for installlation...can you look at the size of it, is it 2 gb?
<sarnold> BluesKai: if it is _really_ hung, kill -9 <pid>
<sarnold> BluesKai: there is an xkill, if you'd rather click on the window you want to die ;)
<apokryphos> y2pmsh has a big "use for debugging only", not sure it's that well supported; still, I do like it. I just think smart is better.
<wickers> sarnold, you get bonus points if you know what -9 actually means. ;)
<sarnold> wickers: SIGKILL
<apokryphos> no_gatez_fan: should be 3.5 gigs
<sarnold> but i'm lazy
<wickers> ding
<wickers> :d
<no_gatez_fan> ok
<no_gatez_fan> my download must of fizzled out
<wickers> apokryphos, well, if you'd like to write up a basic howto for smart and suse 10.1, I'll gladly host it on my site.
<wickers> :)
<BluesKai> ithow do i use the cmd xkill ?
<sPiN> run it, cursor becomes skull cross bones, you click the window you want to kill
<apokryphos> wickers: guess I might write a little walk-through-tutorial, I'll see.
<wickers> xkill is nifty, but often leaves dead processes in the background.
<ahasenack> does anybody know, or could point me to an url, why suse dropped heimdal in version 9.3? (I think that was the version, but I could be wrong)
<wickers> I'd like ot see Xgl have a special Xkill that blows up the window into little peices.
<sarnold> wickers++
<wickers> that would rawk!
<wickers> "Not responding? I'll show you not responding!!! *KA-BOOM*"
<Mazoon> Very good idea!
<klerfayt> talking about xgl - why I have 3d accel disabled then using it?
<sarnold> wickers: brilliant :)
<apokryphos> klerfayt: opensuse.org/Xgl
<klerfayt> apokryphos, OpenGL applications will be hardware accelerated on Xgl if the driver supports pBuffers or FBOs, like the nvidia and fglrx drivers do.
<apokryphos> yes, but you won't get direct rendering
<wickers> I had a dream lastnight that people started posting in my forums... I woke up today to a disapointment. :(
<klerfayt> apokryphos, so basically it depends on hardware whether someone could or could not have 3daccel for applications then using xgl?
<wickers> heh
<klerfayt> apokryphos, or it's drivers?
<apokryphos> klerfayt: drivers and the hardware, yes.
<apokryphos> but it also means that direct rendering is not possible
<klerfayt> apokryphos, how did the guy play quake then in novell's video demo?
<apokryphos> games should work fine
<Mazoon> Hmm...
<apokryphos> they're not reliant on direct rendering
<benJIman> you won't get as good performance
<tloeffler> hey there, i'm using kde 3.5.2 on suse 10.1 but the sysinfo tells me that is would be 3.5.1
<klerfayt> err?
<tloeffler> is this a feature?
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