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<0> Ancient1: lol .. try it as root
<0> using kdesu
<0> ppp always needs root
<1> sec, wanna get kde
<2> seem like hes been told 3 time to do it as root
<0> bill-barriere: who, Ancient1 ?
<3> !compiz
<4> Rumour has it compiz is amazing. If you haven't tried it do it!
<2> ... cant understand basic auth principle ... i feel so so solly
<0> !kde
<4> http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:updatekde
<0> :D
<3> I wish I could disable wobbly but keep snapping.
<0> DanaG: in kde ?
<5> I wish kweather would go in farenheit :(
<6> DanaG: use the gconf-editor apps-compiz-plugins-wobbly



<3> With compiz
<3> If I disable wobbly, then window snapping is gone too.
<7> Grommet: would kweather use farenheit if you start it in a locale such as en_US?
<0> why do they make the best of things for guhnome .. like, xgl support in kde is shaky at the best :S
<8> man, im have all kinds of issues
<6> rohan: it is non existant
<0> Grommet: set your country using kcontrol
<3> Oh, and does anyone know how to turn on vsync and antialiasing in xorg.conf on nvidia?
<5> k will try :)
<0> sPiN: yeah, u'd need compiz
<6> compiz is a know window manager, and gwd is a gnome window decoration
<0> which ****S big time
<7> rohan: i'm sure that the kde team would accept patches :)
<6> ack! its late... gnome even
<6> rohan: there is a SOC project to make a kde one
<0> ah, excellent
<0> but its for kde4, right ?
<5> it is set as US english already
<9> ...
<6> see thats the thing....
<0> Grommet: wait
<6> no one writing kde code right now is doing a new project for kde 3, they are all working with the new kde4 api's
<0> Grommet: kcontrol -> Regionsal & accesibilty -> Country/Region and lang
<0> set your prefs there
<0> sPiN: :(
<6> everyone with an existing kde project is working on porting their projects to the new api... thus... no kde composite window manager till kde 4 more than likely
<5> rohan: yeah it's US English
<9> got everything they asked for, and the Vmware module compile still has errors ; ;
<6> Faileas: i suggest you try vmware server rpm
<9> sPiN: its an error with the Vmmon module that it needs to compile
<0> Grommet: strange
<0> sPiN: novell cud've shown some love to kde !
<0> while writing xgl
<10> Faileas, try with the any-any patch
<3> cud? Are you a cow? (just kidding...)
<9> sPiN: one moment, i'll get the error ip
<9> any-any patch?
<10> any-any-updates
<3> !networkmanager
<4> Rumour has it networkmanager is almost 3 years old
<10> let me get you the url
<3> networkmanager does not DHCP properly for me.
<9> anyway : http://rafb.net/paste/results/oKrIJu85.html thats the error, if it makes any sense
<7> rohan: dude, Xgl didn't -exist- eight months ago... I saw a demo of prototype code in september
<10> Faileas, http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/
<7> rohan: it wasn't exactly stabilised until the last two or three months..
<7> .. give it a wee bit of time :)
<0> oh ok
<0> but they did gnome first .. lol, cudve done kde at the same time :-/
<10> Faileas, yup that happened to me, download any-any-updates-101
<11> what pack for 10.0 has perl:NET:IRC in it?
<10> and run runme.pl
<11> i dont see any perl irc packs
<7> rohan: that was mostly cause the xgl-interested folks were also gnome-interested folks..
<7> rohan: keep in mind these are just a bunch of geeks ;) It's not like some manager somewhere in novell said "hey, lets make xgl work great under gnome and leave KDE in the dust..."
<12> anyone knoe how to get suse 10.1 working on a bttv chipset
<13> good morning :)
<0> sarnold: ah, i see ..
<1> I can't update KDE.. I choose update if newer - kde desktop and all of kde. and it doesn't upgrade !
<8> any idea why the install would skip media verification?
<0> Ancient1: why does it not upgrade ?



<11> hmm there doesnt seem to be any pack containing "perl irc" in decriptions
<3> unfortunately, my BT848/878 (I forget which) TV tuner is PCI, and now I'm on a laptop.
<8> rOOb: Why not just download it from cpan and install it?
<1> u asking me ??? it seems to do something but kcontrol says I have 351
<11> well im using a rpm based system'
<10> so after 3.5.2 comes 4.0? o there will be 3.6
<11> there should be a pack..and i dont want to cause any kinda dep issues
<8> rOOb: so? just install it from cpan.
<11> cpan?
<11> nm
<11> ill google it.....i need to for a game mod
<9> lovelyx: it seems to be working...
<8> every program doesnt exist as an rpm
<9> and since when did version number need to be in order
<1> rohan: why do i get ths SUID err when i launch kppp with alt-F2 ?
<0> Ancient1: packaging mistaking .. but just type "kdesu kppp" and not just "kppp"
<0> *mistake
<10> Faileas, worksation cant work with suse 10.1 kenrel
<10> unless you apply that patch
<9> lovelyx: and it works now
<1> rohan: will that solve for good ? and, it does load after i clcik ok in the error
<10> isnt that great
<9> yeah
<9> it is ^^
<0> Ancient1: yea just type kdesu kppp
<9> i just need to make sense of the driver for my creative zen and i'm done with basic installs
<10> well i dont know how to do that
<10> i have an ipod
<9> yeah
<9> ipods have built in support now in suse ya?
<13> 10pt fonts are huge on my box. I tried changing the DisplaySize in xorg.conf... but no luck, what should I do to fix this?
<9> IE... just make a bloody open source driver damnit ;p
<1> rohan: done that. config-new modem- device(dev/modem) - query = Unable to open. maybe I'll try ttyS0 ?
<7> twosouls82: if you set your xserver to 100dpi, you get big fonts; if you set your xserve to 75 dpi you get more reasonably sized fonts
<9> lovelyx: the current driver needs at least 4 pieces of software
<3> but, unfortunately, they have apparently the best USB 2.0 sound card around.
<9> DanaG: their a local company and hardware supportwise they rock
<13> sarnold, thanks :) you know where I can alter that setting?
<3> but think of what they do with EAX (not allow anyone to use it) and what they did to Sensaura (buy and drop, I believe) and to Aureal (sue, then buy and kill)
<7> twosouls82: hrm, i thought that was in the xorg.conf but i don't see it in mine... try: startx -- -dpi 75 if that makes it better, then we know to keep looking for it :)
<10> the only hardware that wasnt automatically recognized was the printer, still have to donwload the driver, but its easy
<5> I got it, I had to change measuring system from metric
<13> sarnold, merci.. I will keep you posted :P
<14> i'm having some trouble with the page-cache on SuSE10 - anyone here have some experience with that?
<0> Ancient1: yea, try ttys0
<0> Ancient1: if it is on com1 that is
<1> rohan: did, negative. its PCI . don't remember about coms ..
<0> Ancient1: remember, after you change the port in kppp, you need to quit and restart it for changes to take effect
<0> i mean, apply -> quit and tehn
<1> rohan: ohh
<7> msolo: .. what kind of problem?
<14> the page cache growth seems limited - it reaches a certain size, then stops growing, even though there is plenty of free memory
<7> msolo: heh normally people ask the opposite :)
<14> ah, well, this is a server application
<7> msolo: i think you've got the right instinct..
<1> rohan: i can't update kde :O
<14> and the page cache is vitally important to good performance
<7> msolo: it is just rare to see :)
<1> rohan: I can't update kde
<14> the sad thing is the my app worked find under RHEL4
<14> and i've checked all of the usual kernel tunables
<7> msolo: i believe rhel4 offered a 4:4 kernel split, which would allow the kernel to use up to four gigs for cache and internal datastructures -- at the cost of TLB flushes on every kernel entry and exit
<1> wierrrrd shiet ! I kde sources and it won't update to 352
<7> msolo: i have to admit that i don't know if suse offers different memory splits in the kernels.. but perhaps the SMP kernels would work out better, even if it is a UP machine
<14> i'm running a 32bit SMP build on a dual-core AMD, with 8GB RAM
<14> the page cache stops growing after 2.2GB
<14> when vm.swappiness = 1
<14> and vm.vfs_cache_pressure = 1
<7> msolo: drat. then my ideas are useless to you :0


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