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<0> rohan, but we end up with gnome window deco?
<1> im lost
<1> lol
<1> Yast its too new for me
<1> yast have a console thing, for search packages and install?
<1> like apt-get
<2> bet0x: the guide is pretty nice, with details
<1> yes robert_
<2> Sakuya: no, you end up with compiz
<0> funda, change them back
<1> rohan*
<3> I was about to say
<3> 'Huh? I have no part in this discussion!'
<0> rohan, ok? so what does the &gnome-deco thing do?
<4> Aloha
<0> yo
<2> Sakuya: i dont know how it looks - i have one and only p3 550mhz 256mb ram, and i cant get xgl on it.
<0> ah ok lol
<2> Sakuya: and i dont use gnome
<0> rohan, from what i seen before it uses the gnome deco instead
<2> so even if i could try xgl, i couldnt tell you what gnome-deco & does :-/
<5> Sakuya: Gnome-decorator replaces the window taskbar etc.
<0> rohan, but yeah, I'll try it out
<0> daPheonix, to the gnome ones?
<5> Sakuya: Yes.
<0> thanks i see
<5> Sakuya: KDE will.. perhaps someday, offer a kde-window-decorator but apparently this is still in the works.
<2> daPhoenix: grrrr so using the guide, my kde uses the gnome deco panels taskbar and all ? :S
<5> Sakuya: Which is the prime reason I have zip interest in Xgl myself :p
<0> roha, yeah
<5> rohan: Yes, your KDE would be unable to change any window decorations and it would use the gnome-decorator for those.
<0> yeah, i'm just like.. gnome... meh
<0> daPhoenix, so if I want to change a Window style i need to use the gnome deco manager?
<5> Looks pretty crappy so.. I suggest you wait. Xgl is still quite beta stuff.
<2> daPhoenix: grrr.. :S
<5> And it's not really that great, you will run into different issues - especially if you have an ATi card.
<2> heh, anyway, I cannot use it
<0> daPhoenix, last question, from http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17174.html, near the end it tells u to setup KDE to auto start with Xgl
<6> !yastsources
<7> For more information about YaST sources and how to add them, check http://susewiki.apanela.com/goodlinks:yast_sources or http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToAddReposandSoftwarewithYastcli * Make sure to only refresh sources that will actually change, as depicted in this screenshot: http://spinink.net/images/screens/yast.jpg
<5> Also ATi drivers don't support some of the acceleration functions used so for example window resizing is super slow. Apparently this is true for nVidia cards at the moment too (Driver update pending)
<0> does that mean I no longer have the normal KDE?
<6> !sakuya
<7> Rumour has it sakuya is thei any tutorials for .sh?
<0> like if I want to use the normal KDE without Xgl, can I still do it? and how?
<0> aye?
<0> !Mulian
<2> !rohan
<7> Rumour has it rohan is telling that suse 10.1 will ship with gnome 2.12 ):
<2> lol
<6> #Sakuya nope
<0> wait... mulian, where is ur name come from?
<2> does it record random statements ?
<0> hahahahaha
<5> Sakuya: I wouldn't go around touching the KDE+Gnome+XGL at the moment until they've had time to implement a better system for it.
<5> !daPhoenix
<7> Rumour has it daPhoenix is that true ?
<5> Gah, I don't have my ***y thing anymore. *cry* :P
<8> Is there a GUI for that 'rug' stuff?
<9> hi!
<0> daPhoenix, yeah, I was saying about 2 days ago I'd wait for a proper KDE one, but what I meant is if right now I can set it up so Xgl is just a side option, then wouldnt do any harm to try it? or would it..?
<0> !sakuya
<7> Rumour has it sakuya is thei any tutorials for .sh?
<0> lol
<0> had to capture a sentence with spelling error didnt it..
<0> oh rohan just noticed, you run 10.0 on a 233?
<2> Sakuya: no, i dont have suse installed atm
<9> how are you?
<2> and 232 ?! do they even run suse with gui ? :S
<0> rohan, so what are you running on the 233?
<0> thats what i was wondering lol
<9> Just installed suse 10.1!
<0> CPU_Wizard, hello
<9> hello :-)
<10> hey everyone, please may i ask a quick question... i have installed postgresql from source and am trying to get it to run automatically.. i know how to use insserv, but postgresql needs to *not* be root to start. does anyone know how i can specify which user to run the startup script as? thanks in advance
<8> zoggy: use "su" in the script
<0> dont that ask for p***word?
<8> zoggy: have a look in other init-script, like apache for example
<8> Sakuya: no
<8> Sakuya: init-scripts are run as root
<8> and you can always "downgrade" your uid :)
<2> zoggy: why did you not use the opensuse package ?
<11> Is there a bittorent client that has a time schedular built in ?
<0> ohh i see
<0> haha yeah, and then cause a whole bunch of problems after ur uid is lowered
<0> William_VNC, Azureus
<9> brb
<2> Sakuya: ah, you are still on 10.0 ?
<0> oh, can someone tell me this, if i install 10.1, can i just leave my /home partition there and get 10.1 to mpunt that back onto 10.1?
<0> rohan, yeah
<11> Sakuya: ok
<0> rohan, too scared/lazy to install 10.1 actually
<2> Sakuya: heh ok
<2> Sakuya: ofcourse you can
<0> rohan, yeah, thats my main worry lol, i'm kinda hoping it dont screw up
<2> nah, it wont
<0> rohan, but do i loss the history/book mark from firefox and all that?
<2> no way, if you keep the /home same
<0> also i need to reinstall my themes..... boot up themes.... logon themes...
<0> custom decos....
<2> that, yes :S
<0> i'll do it when my holiday starts lol, exams are comming lol
<2> same here
<2> exams this sunday
<2> :S
<0> and hopefully by that time Xgl/KDE will be able to live in harmony lol
<0> rohan, what u studying?
<12> hi guys im awake and already on my computer :-)
<12> my question today is adressed to network aware ppl
<2> Sakuya: physics chemi maths for this exam, but we have to study english, and i opted for computers
<0> glad to hear lol
<0> what time is it?
<2> here ?
<2> /ctcp rohan clock ? :)
<12> Sakuya: 10 a.m
<0> rohan, ah u in high school?
<2> Sakuya: yeap.. well, "Junior College" as we call it here
<12> Sakuya: no 11 a.m sorry :-D
<2> Sakuya: after this i will get into engineering
<0> ah oops
<12> Sakuya: well im 28 and im doing a PhD
<0> rohan that CTCP thing, can u use it to view other ppl' time?
<12> Sakuya: school is far away
<2> Sakuya: yes
<12> so my question is
<0> rohan, hehe yeah, I'm in computer systems eng. lol calculus is hard
<2> Sakuya: but most clients block ctcp, like yours
<0> rohan, how u do that?
<2> Sakuya: do what ?
<12> can you show me the idea to go from the outside with ssh to a computer which is INSIDE a LOCAL network
<0> its my 1st year in uni TT... everything is hard
<2> littlesniper: heh, like loop about it ?
<2> Sakuya: well, calculus is DAMN SIMPLE
<2> :)
<2> atleast, at the level which we have
<12> I want to be able to get on a machine which is inside my local network, from the internet with ssh
<2> ewww.. all that for calculus ? ok, calculus ****s
<12> does anyone can give me some ideas about the possible ways
<12> ??
<0> feel the pain!
<2> Sakuya: 14:32 < rohan> ewww.. all that for calculus ? ok, calculus ****s ..
<2> i said it ****s
<2> stop beating ;)
<2> lol
<12> hmmm guys is it a suse help chnl :-/
<0> haha you see with my excellent 26 seconds ping to this channel...... everythign comes late
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