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<0> !packman mldonkey
<1> yaloki: KMLDonkey helps integrate the MLDonkey P2P software into KDE3. Itprovides a replacement MLDonkey GUI using the KDE framework, ED2Klink handling in Konqueror, a Control Centre module for configuringMLDonkey and client connectivity, and a panel apple..., see http://packman-test.links2linux.org/search/mldonkey
<0> edwin: see URL above
<2> yaloki: doesnt mldonkey only work with edonkey network? i want to use the overnet network...
<0> umm.. isn't the edonkey the overnet network ?
<0> it is
<0> ;)
<3> mp3!
<3> mp3
<3> avi
<0> !mp3
<1> For MP3 Support in Suse 10 or 10.1, check <http://spinink.net/suse-for-windows-users/#mp3 : For Suse 9.3 just run YOU (Yast Online Update) and choose to install the extra multimedia packages.
<4> i got suse to boot in under a minute simply by telling her not to automatically mount all my partitions! cut 30s off! however i would like to get some files off my ntfs partition, and when i try to mount it after suse has started up i get a "permission denied". How can i access this partition? and is it possible to change suse's mount behavior after installation?
<3> yaloki:thank you
<5> Shaezsche, edit /etc/fstab
<5> change "auto" to "noauto" - that won't automount that partition



<4> vitamin is there a control panel menu i can do this from?
<5> why?
<5> it's a text file
<4> i dont care about automount really, id prefer to juse be able to mount things after suse has loaded up
<0> there's some module in yast2 to do that, don't remember which though
<4> right now im getting a permission denied
<5> Shaezsche, I think you need to add "user" in the options list as well
<4> ok, what group must i add the user too if i want to be able to mount?
<5> You can do all that with partitioner, if it works (doesn't here)
<4> vitamin when i click on my computer it lists all the possible partitions to mount. id just like to be able to right click and mount and unmount as i see fit
<5> Shaezsche, that's what you need to configure in /etc/fstab
<4> fstab just configures auto and no auto
<4> i dont want these drives booting at startup
<5> Shaezsche, just add "users" in the options list for that mount
<4> the options list in the text file?
<5> yes
<4> i really prefer to do this through a module
<4> is that like adding a user to a group?
<0> no
<0> it's adding the "users" option to the mountpoint
<5> Shaezsche, I told you what you can use
<5> start yast, then partitions
<4> ok
<0> which means that non-root users are allowed to mount that partition as well
<5> ^
<4> ok ill just have to do /etc/fstab
<4> i dont like messing around with texts. im a clicker
<0> not "do", "edit" ;)
<0> Shaezsche: try it, once you'll get used to it, you'll love it
<4> i cannot believe how much faster suse boots when it doesnt automount only 2 other partitions, THAT are even on the same hard drive
<0> Shaezsche: reiserfs is very slow on mounting (but very fast on usage)
<4> oh yea, actually i used ext3 instead of reis
<4> also ive heard its not that much of a performance booster over ext3 really
<0> Shaezsche: you've heard wrong ;)
<0> ext2/3 gets pretty bad when you use >60% of the filesystem size
<4> like how bad? do you mean for simple navigationg? when i open firefox will it be noticably slower?
<5> Shaezsche, really really slower
<0> ext2/3 gets a lot slower when more than 60% of the filesystem is used
<5> because firefox creates huge number of small files (cache)
<0> and reiserfs aggregates small files into blocks, which means that a 1 byte file doesn't use a whole block, as with ext2/3
<4> ok im just trying to determine what you mean by slower. simple navigation, boot times, loading games?
<5> ANd that's what so slow in ext2/3 and much faster in raiserfs
<0> Shaezsche: on usage
<4> usage translate to what?
<4> loading programs?
<0> your whole system, every disk I/O
<4> i am an idiot
<0> especially writing files
<5> reading dir/file/searching dir/file
<4> ok
<0> reiser is also a lot better on searching files and recursing, because it uses a more complex but more efficient indexing tree
<4> any other tips to faster boot times? i already set startupmode for both my network cards, eth and wifi to manual
<4> dont know how much of a dif that makes
<0> besides turning off any service you don't need, not really
<6> start up time is soooo irrevalent
<5> make a monolith kernel
<4> yaloki whats a service i really dont need
<6> vitamin, .....
<0> Shaezsche: I don't know what services you need and what services you have running atm
<5> and make sure all the config options are specified in the boot command line
<0> vitamin: that's just over the top for a beginner



<5> Don't use stuff like lvm,raid - too slow
<0> uh
<6> vitamin, wtf your talking about ...make a monolithic kernel ....
<0> lvm, slow ?
<4> i dont think my hd even supports raid
<5> yaloki, He asked it ;-)
<4> and i dont know what lvm is
<6> lvm slow ?
<0> LVM is not slow, what are you talking about
<6> clueless..
<5> bill-barriere, startup time wise
<4> what is lvm
<0> it's just a very thin and very fast filesystem indirection level in kernelspace
<0> Shaezsche: forget it
<4> lolol
<5> ;-)
<0> Shaezsche: very powerful but pretty complex
<4> ok
<0> !google Linux LVM Logical Volume Manager howto
<1> yaloki: LVM2 Resource Page LVM2 refers to a new userspace toolset that provide logical volume management facilities on linux. It is reasonably backwards-compatible with the original ...sources.redhat.com/lvm/ - 5k - See http://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+LVM+Logical+Volume+Manager+howto
<0> geez
<0> now he left
<7> that was too much ;-)
<6> :/
<0> and we didn't even start talking about the heavy stuff ;)
<6> hehehe
<7> he didnt even get a recommendation for runit ;-(
<5> went testing ;-)
<0> hotte: you call that a "recommendation" ? lol
<5> how else will he know if it's faster?
<0> "how to hose your system, part one" ;)
<7> yaloki: complexity needs competence ;-)
<0> hotte: 100% ACK
<0> s/needs/requires/ ;)
<7> hehe
<5> yup
<0> tell that to managers who want to build software from powerpoint slides ;)
<2> does anyone here use sword/
<2> bibletime?
<0> edwin: nope.. you got the packages for 10.1 from packman ?
<2> yaloki: i have sent them an email, but had no response yet
<0> ah, too bad
<0> wait
<0> ok, I can see why
<0> the package is maintained by Quentin, but he's busy with exams
<2> yaloki: i installed the rpm for 10.0, and it seems to work fine
<0> edwin: mail directly to detlef@links2linux.de and ask him nicely, he's co-maintaining that package ;D
<2> yaloki: thanks, i will do soo
<2> yaloki: i was wondering if you get the Apocrypha for Sword/Bibletime
<0> umm.. whatever apocrypha is... ?
<2> yaloki: the non canonical books of the Bible
<6> ......
<0> ah.. err.. no idea lol
<0> you mean the fun stuff
<0> ;)
<6> Heretic
<7> and god said to abraham: kill me a son ;-)
<0> killall -9 son
<6> no just one not all of hem
<2> lol
<2> blasphemous generation ;)
<0> ah, just one..
<0> sons=$(ps h -o pid -C son); son=$(( $RANDOM % $(echo $sons | wc -w) + 1 )); kill -9 $(echo $sons | cut -f$son -d" ")
<6> Oo ... there you go
<0> does abraham count as root ? ;)
<6> lmao .... he prolly use sudo to act in his name ;)
<0> hehehe
<0> abraham's a sudoer
<8> !smart
<1> smart is a great package management frontend that supports many repository formats - more info on http://smartpm.org - The Guru build comes preloaded with many installation sources. Here is a spoon-fed howto: http://spinink.net/2006/05/20/installing-smart-package-manager/ - also see here: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-install-and-use-smart-on-suse.html
<9> hello all
<9> at which location can i find ekiga so i can install it?


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