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<0> frb: Yay, I'm free to speak in '#suse' again!
<1> frb: thanks :) hehe
<2> nice one frb
<3> in windows.. you can browse to a website that has a software you want.. download to desktop.. and install.... linux just doesnt seem to be able to do that
<4> !sPiN
<5> !ping
<0> If it weren't for grits, there'd be a hell of a lot more Indians.
<0> pong
<1> [daemon]: heh, good point, around here i don't have ops and don't need to see everything :)
<4> bots ****!
<6> is it supposed to be easy to update from 10.0 to 10.1? cause i get about a brazillion complaints
<4> sarnold: I have op but I really hate to see everything
<5> easy, like pulling your own teeth
<6> dozens of things saying theres unresolvable problems
<1> fensta: you actually can; nearly every software project makes it easy to get tarballs of source code; some have precompiled packages, too
<2> !upgrade
<0> To upgrade to a newer Suse from an older version with little or no problems, use a CD/DVD set and choose "Update" at the menu, for detailed instructions go here: http://spinink.net/2006/05/13/3-ways-of-upgrading-to-suse-linux-101/
<7> sPiN, hey users should not have that ability anyhow... you should be thanking me for finding a bug.
<7> ;0
<3> but there is no double click and install option
<3> that is wierd to me
<2> wickers: ill inform benJIman|tov
<1> fensta: i think nautilus has a right-click-install option
<6> so how do i do an online update?
<2> !tell benJIman|tov uhhh wickers told the bot to shutup, and it did
<0> sPiN: Okay, will tell upon next speaking. (Sent to 1 person.)
<1> fensta: but it won't handle dependency resolution ... (but then again, neither will windows, if te application you've downloaded requires .net or MSVCRT or whatever..)
<8> sPiN: it's not a bug, it's a feature :)
<3> I just dont understand
<9> fensta: suse actually has a click to install, if you have the rpm on your desktop or something, yast will install it
<3> hrmmz
<2> benJIman|tov: thats what they all say :P
<3> ok that is interesting
<3> cuz windows.. you download an exe.. and install
<4> benJIman|tov: turn that **** of
<1> fensta: yeah, it took me a little while to get the hang of getting all my software from one place ;)
<3> every distro I have tried doesnt
<7> wow.. I have not lol'd in real life in a while... that was gold.
<2> fensta: do not install rpms that way, it doesnt warn of dep conflicts, nor does it report success or failure
<6> oh it does say on that site how i did it. but i had hundreds of conflicts
<8> sPiN: anyone can wake it up if they have the same access or higher
<9> fensta: yeah.... exes are windows apps. Linux uses a different format
<3> I know that... I just feel that is what linux is lacking
<10> qmagic!
<1> fensta: i consider it a feature, to be honest ;)
<2> fensta: well i would argue that it isnt a good thing
<3> I should be able to browse to a site.. download the app.. and install.... why is it so hard
<7> coomac, not if you use mono apps... they have exes too.
<6> why would i have so many conflicts? i hardly installed anything on 10.0
<3> sPiN... but then how do we get new applications?
<8> !wakeup
<0> benJIman|tov: But I can already speak!
<11> btw fwiw sarnold .. rumour has it the 'register_*' novell channels step has nojoy currently.. ;]
<2> fensta: having one place to install and upgrade apps is a good thing
<10> fensta: because linux apps don't contain 22M of extra libs
<2> fensta: almost everything is provided via yast network sources
<3> but sPiN.... how do you get axxs to new apps then
<1> tech9iner: i recall reading something that the registration stuff will work better in SLES/SLED
<11> prolly like the buggy bits of .1.. still in messy diapers..
<8> sPiN: it also automatically wakes itself up
<12> ...
<4> benJIman|tov: fix it or it stays outside!
<3> what if I started working on a linux app..my thinking is I would make a website for it and people could find it via google and download it
<2> fensta: ppl are constantly adding new packages almost as soon as they are released
<10> not when some psychotic [daemon] banishes it to the neverhells
<11> olleH bill-barriere
<3> is that not what goes on in the linux world?
<9> wickers: meh I was trying to address what fensta was talking about, which I ***umed was the files a regular user would encounter
<12> hi
<8> [daemon]: it's not broken, it unshuts itself up
<2> fensta: that is want source forge is for
<13> d
<4> benJIman|tov: fix it or it stays outside!
<6> this is the point i always uninstall linux. i try it for a bit, but as soon as the first update comes along. it breaks everything
<12> what the heck it did ?
<11> lol
<3> but sPiN.. once I find something in sourceforge would I have to compile it myself?
<2> and if ppl like your app ppl will begin to package for distros and maybe even include it in a distro if you are lucky
<11> pissed [daemon] off twould seem bill-barriere lol
<7> coomac, making things simple to understand does not mean you have to give mis-information.. but I understand what you mean.
<8> [daemon]: it can be changed, depends on your point of view whether you consider it broken
<6> i cant imagine windows or macos having an update that breaks tons of programs like that
<2> fensta: depends on that app, most things worth having are available through online repositories
<8> it just means people can stop it spamming
<8> it still replies in pm when shutup
<4> benJIman|tov: if a standard user (not admin) can turn it off thenit is broken
<10> shutup should require factoid privileges?
<1> fensta: nearly every "upstream vendor" provides tarballs; you can download, tar xvf, cd <packagename>, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local ; make ; sudo make install
<3> so sPiN.. it seems to me I would be limited to only popular apps
<8> [daemon]: it doesn't get "turned off" it just stops spamming the channel
<7> mmm but i like my factoid privs...
<7> :D
<1> fensta: that almost always works
<4> benJIman|tov: gosh
<2> fensta: there are literally thousands of apps you can download, many of which are very obscure
<1> fensta: many software authors go to the trouble of providing precompiled packages for different distributions; but as there are hundreds of distributions, they normally only target a few popular ones, such as red hat and suse..
<8> [daemon]: but if you think it's a problem it can easily be restricted
<11> evil-doer really now.. beg to differ.. all due respect.. but ive seen some real horrors in my 15 yrs of m$ bloat on occasion.. or been privy too.. ;].. rare.. but likewise indeed happens
<4> benJIman|tov: it is
<3> how do I find updates or a list of applications precompiled for suse?
<2> !yastsources
<1> fensta: _but_, if you install the software from your distribution vendor (red hat, suse, debian, ubuntu, whatever) then you will be able to get security updates for all your software through a single mechanism
<4> benJIman|tov: if you think that this is helpful then we just kick your bot and fall back to geeko
<11> lmao
<3> interesting
<2> damn it, i dont want to type in 5 letters to nick complete the bot
<1> fensta: if you download and install the thing yourself (exactly like the .exe model) then _You_ are responsible for finding updates
<14> is it possible to view quicktime movies within firefox?
<4> benJIman|tov: and drop that ****ty message about nicks!
<3> so sarnold.. what is the mechinism you are talking about?
<12> ...
<15> so ne1 have ne memory chips they can send me
<12> [daemon], eated mad cow for supper ?
<8> [daemon]: the policy for shuting up is changed now
<8> [daemon]: what message is that?
<2> !spin
<4> bill-barriere: nah - I'm verry pleased today
<14> Quicktime movies? Anyone?
<6> tech9iner, come on, somethign like from 10.0 to 10.1 breaking so much stuff?
<9> LedFloyd: with mplayerplug-in, you can view then inside firefox, with the kaffeine plugin, you can view them, but it opens up a new window iirc
<1> fensta: depends on the distribution. debian and ubuntu use "apt-get". SuSE uses "yast". Red Hat Fedora uses YUM, Red Hat Enterprise Linux uses up2date. Mandrake uses urpmi
<2> i dont think [daemon] likes my factoid :P
<14> ahh i see
<6> and ive hardly installed anything
<11> btdt yes evil-doer ..
<1> fensta: oh yeah, and gentoo uses 'emerge'.
<16> is there a 32 bit emulation package for the 64 bit version of 10.1
<6> its ridiculous
<11> exasparating YES evil-doer .. but not as uncommon as one mite think..
<7> What have i started?
<4> 02:41 <0> Hi! I think you (daemon) have tells, but you haven't actually registered your nickname with NickServ.
<1> fensta: each one of them is better suited at some things than other things :( of course...
<8> [daemon]: someone sent you a message
<8> [daemon]: and you havn't collected it
<11> still puppy loyal to suse n even goddess yast an high hopes she'll recover soon here..
<4> benJIman|tov: this ****ing bot does not know about me and just spams me with ****
<6> well ive used windows for a long long time and ive never ever had anything even close to this
<8> [daemon]: no someone sent you a tell
<4> benJIman|tov: no
<8> [daemon]: yes, or it wouldn't say that
<6> yet this happens every single time i try linux
<13> I am trying to get into linux device drivers (needed for my new job) and so i downloaded the latest stable kernel to do my experimentation in (recommended by the manual im using), configured it and compiled it but when i try to boot the new kernel, i get an error message saying it cant find the root path - (kernel panic). Any help is appreciated as i am stuck. Thanks
<12> SuSEMan, tell [daemon] {same}
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