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<0> Calum`: it will show you the kernel's routing table
<1> the same as 'ip route show' then?
<0> Calum`: looks like it; i'm not versed in ip's output, so it is tough for me to tell immediately if they report the same information
<1> Four lines:
<1> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.2
<1> 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link
<1> 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope link
<1> default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
<2> david@linux-22wz:~/gaim-1.5.0> yast -i gcc binutils make glibc-devel
<2> bash: yast: command not found
<3> cenuij: right now we have a problem with the default package manager, so we switch to a better solution
<4> I updated again to 10.1 because someone told me it is possible to get rt2500 work by folloing https://linux.wordpress.com/2006/05/14/suse-101-and-rt2500-wi-fi/ Still my suse cant find this wlan :-(
<5> _david, as root
<6> root
<4> And i cant add any packman or guru sources :-(



<7> why is yum so bad ?
<8> what is zen updater and what does it do?
<7> what do you think it does ?
<9> warthawg: it doesnt work :P
<10> its works for me from cli
<7> will the online updator allways say no new packages ?
<11> http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux --> whats so good about this guide? doesnt help kde users :P
<8> i don't know zen, well, except for a book called 'zen flesh, zen bones'
<10> "End Chaos with the All New ZENworks 7" hmm, really...
<12> I know zen from the page ZENGARDEN :)
<4> can someone send me yast source list what has working guru and packman sources?
<8> what is the sound of one zen clapping, gr***hoppa
<2> I got a yast2 window, but that window is bugged. How can I close this one?
<9> Fri13: http://spinink.net/2006/05/13/adding-installation-sources-to-suse-linux-101/
<9> <ctrl> <alt> <esc> click the window
<2> because the windows is accessing the databse
<8> can i safely shut down all zen services?
<4> sPiN: i cant add any sources. Yast just crash when im pressin "OK" after i have added all sources.
<13> anyone know howto disable this 2 smtp and rpcbind
<8> or will that stop me from getting online updates and the like?
<7> the funny thing was this
<7> zen did work once
<7> or that software updator thing
<9> Fri13: sorry man.. you will need to complete the section i have yet to finish at the bottom of that article
<9> until then you could use y2pmsh
<8> my stomach felt funny when i looked at a ps ax list and saw /usr/lib/bin/ZenUpdater.exe
<2> damnit
<2> I cliked the window bar
<2> :(
<7> it worked once then it never worked again
<11> via xkill or hitting + + --> what does + + do ?
<14> looks like things are settling a bit already..
<15> i just install suse 20.2 on amd 64 ! i hope it's good
<11> warthawg: yea, theres also rug.exe
<14> this'z one testy bunch o whiners in here yesterday bout this time oday.. hehe
<0> MANITOU: 20.2? coool timemachine :)
<15> 10.1
<8> can i kill it too?
<15> hehe
<14> ahem..
<15> laptop ;)
<6> of course
<15> small one
<14> tongue n 2 feet in cheek here of course due the 'whiners' usage .. ahem.. ;]]
<6> you can kill anything
<7> !online update
<7> !zen
<16> Rumour has it zen is one of Novells product
<7> !zenupdate
<11> MANITOU: do kill -9 1 too :P
<6> or init S
<4> sPiN: i cant add any sources to yast. When i have added one or more sources and i click "Finish" yast just crash there. If i open "Installation Source" and i dont add anything and then click "Finish" it close of right.
<7> aaaasdddfffjjkkkkkkl;;
<7> asdfjkl;
<7> qweurioppp
<9> Fri13: yeah the **** is pretty broken in 10.1 man... im sorry they released such a buggy package
<7> zxcvm,//
<7> `12367789
<7> or
<7> 12347890



<11> when will they patch the "****" and make it un-b0rken ?
<7> and then the f keys
<4> sPiN: so i go back 10.0 again :-) Next time when im gonna update to 10.1 is when someone who owns rt2500 card can confirm it really work and other things :-)
<11> anyway, gotta leave, bbl, bye all, \o/
<17> hello
<18> bye
<19> 'Lo
<17> someone here using XGL and KDE?
<14> whom in here btw mates.. not to rant at them of course.. just curiosity.. is actually at least talking indirectly with developers?.. one'd think they'd be posting some ***urances of patches in the oven..
<9> poimen: i have and i wouldnt do it again
<14> albeit's only been bout a wk
<9> ive used xgl extensively, ive ran dozens of daily cvs builds on both gnome and kde
<17> you had my same problem? I got nautilus to took over my desktop :(
<7> { /_ 0 /_ }
<9> i detest nautilus, but i didnt have it affecting my kde
<9> just compiz was never meant for xgl
<14> !compiz
<16> Rumour has it compiz is installed
<9> s/xgl/kde/
<14> hmm.. google?.... hehe
<14> seeing lotsa chat bout compiz.. need to get an idea wtf it is..
<17> I have compiz installed
<14> re: xgl twould appear
<9> !xgl
<16> For XGL instructions go here: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl using xgl with 10.0 and before is not recommended but is possible, proceed at your own risk & For XGL video demos go here: http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/55 & for Kororaa XGL LiveCD go here: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/5476
<8> i wonder if i can run xgl/compiz on my laptop, with its ati chip
<14> niiice.. Genuine Childs - Mellow Dee :: http://66.28.209.20:80
<17> compiz load in kde and the gnome-window decorator and then nautilus replace my kdesktop
<6> no
<8> if not, maybe nate will send me his
<17> and the only kde thing in my desktop was kicker
<14> man.. sooo nice to have me amarok smoothn out the rough edges again here spin ;]]
<6> tech9iner: obey the spin
<6> or die
<14> wtf ?
<14> lol
<14> did he ***ign me his dishes again??..
<6> worse
<20> bill-barriere: ping
<14> oi.. lmao.. had to open me B I G mouth bout how nice it was to have ama'rokn again.. oi.. xine just crashed.. lol
<12> does anybody know where is the nice xchat icon ?
<20> :)
<7> I was under the impression that everyone here uses opensuse or suse 10
<7> I bet there are lots who use professional ?
<7> what other flavors of suse are there ?
<20> there are three types
<20> SUSE Linux, SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server
<14> kaiSVK typically they'r in share/pixmaps guv
<20> pre Novell days there was SUSE Linux Pro...
<14> my bad kaiSVK .. make that usr/share/pixmaps
<12> tech9iner, there is only that dissgusting icon with smile saying hi!
<14> oh.. igotcha now.. kaiSVK .. jump out to the kde.org bits mate.. many many flavors there ;]]
<17> btw : XGL and Compiz on Gnome works like a charm but in KDE ****s :(
<14> heydy hey cenuij
<20> hey dude, w***up
<21> poimen: No kidding, seeing as XGL was developed for GNOME.
<21> poimen: Novell is trying to push "Gnome for all, if you don't like it - **** off".
<22> suse dumped wireles how i restart it?
<14> 10.1 on me 5th installs settling the dust abit finally here cenuij ;]]
<17> :( that is the sad truth
<14> all the veterans here expect such from t9 anyhoo tho cenuij lol
<12> tech9iner, there was the icon ... but it is no longer there :/
<20> tech9iner: :D
<14> locally on your sys you mean kaiSVK ?
<22> any ideas how to restart wireless?
<14> or on kde.org?
<17> strange 3 days ago my default desktop was kubuntu now is Suse 10.1 :D
<12> I think KDE has one year of development for compared to GNOME
<12> tech9iner, no I mean on kde look
<17> KDE realeases show always better new things than gnome ones
<14> nsa's carnivore prefers suse10.1 on your desktop poimen .. next question?.. hehehe
<23> hitler nuclear germ warfare biological anthrax suse 10.1?


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