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<0> ah, rug is doing its friggin 'Waking Up ZMD' thing again, it never moves past it :(
<1> Hello, I use a US keyboard, but I accidently chose an AZERTY keyboard during the installation of Suse 10.1 and while I set up properly my keyboard in X and KDE, I have no clue how to set it up in init 3 so my kernel see my keyboard as a US
<2> lets hope install fglrx module doesn't kill xorg...
<1> realloc u installing ure ATI card driver?
<2> thibod: ye, well driver is installed, just need to configure xorg.conf
<3> whats with the busted zmd ?
<4> Thibod, is there a program that gives you that nickname (lxuser)?
<1> hahah I'm doing the same ^_^
<3> my software updator seems broken....
<0> unition, it is a bit
<3> has there been any new patches for GM ?
<3> what do you mean ?
<4> Thibod, btw, type "yast2 keyboard" in a root shell
<1> yeah... Konversation... it uses my home ID.... I haven't changed the setting in it.. I'll do it sooner or later
<1> aka_druid_: Ty man
<0> are novell even going to try and make zmd better in 10.1?
<1> whats zmd?
<1> Im using 10.1
<3> going from 10eval to 10.1 makes me want to move to fedora
<0> umm but yum is horrible
<5> unition: many people share your views, but they want to go back to 10.0 not fedora :P
<1> awesome it worked
<1> yes 10.1 seems very buggy... I wonder why they released it anyway
<3> 10.1 GM should have been RC4
<1> i'd say yeah
<3> still I gotta hand it to em
<3> its running smooth
<0> Thibod, i heard some say the suse dev team where under pressure to get it out the door as fast as possible
<1> indeed
<3> and its put together well
<1> Kronoz: that's what happen when business are behind any kind of project....
<6> for me i find YaST is buggy especially updating, but as i my laptop is all configured and i am happy with the setup - i don't need to use YaST very often so will put up with it
<1> Kronoz: was prolly to show the world that they can deliver something fast...
<5> 00:55 < kronoz> Thibod, i heard some say the suse dev team where under pressure to get it out the door as fast as possible --> how true !
<4> whining increased 17.45% from before release to after release
<1> aka_druid_: ahahahahha
<5> lol
<5> aka_druid: with a reason, wouldnt you agree ?
<0> when it works well rug is very nice
<4> with a reason Id expect 4.99% of increase only
<7> what is it about apple that makes the company so schitzophrenic? Closed architecture -> cloneed mac architecture: oops too many peopel buying mac clones cant have that lets shutdown the clones. Then open source kernel!!! woo were open source -> well were running on intel now so we dont want people runngin OSx on generic PC's sorry its closed soruce again.
<1> rohan: My guess is they'll get even more pressure to deliver a general patch very soon.. KnetwokrManager so buggy... Prolly gonna be their first fix
<7> apple is a joke
<5> Thibod: :)
<7> im my not so humble opinion
<8> yep, not good for suse to develop a reputation for getting it out on-time instead of ready-to-go. :(
<5> cenuij: dont be too .. since thats what most of us would want to say, anyway
<1> scampbell: Well... sounds similar to some other O/s to me....... Windows maybe?
<8> yeah, as I say.. not good.
<1> hehehe
<1> well... isn't 10.1 the first release since Novell acquired SuSE?
<5> no, iirc, 10.0 was the first
<1> oh I see..
<9> cenuij: The "OSX being closed" is again one of those /. articles.
<1> well 10.0 was damn nice.. how could they make this release so much worse...
<7> i was reading it on macworld
<10> Thibod: far from it. 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 10.0, were all post-novell releases, no?
<11> What shall be used for 10.1 update?. You or Software Installer?
<7> but really its been closed since the moce to intel i gather
<7> move
<7> thats why im saying apple are a schitzophrenic company
<11> !update
<12> The .System Update. module in YaST is for updating SuSE between release versions (9.3 -> 10, 10 -> 10.1) If this is what you want to do go here:http://spinink.net/2006/05/13/3-ways-of-upgrading-to-suse-linux-101/#su , it is NOT for updating all of your packages!
<1> sarnold: Man.. you talkin to someone who's been noob enough to crash Slackware 3 in 1994, Fedora Core 2 2 years ago and finally succeed having Linux on his desktop for the first time... I donno ;) ahahha
<5> cenuij: and the best part is, people will still get hacked osx86 anyway ..
<7> the performance of OS X is piss poor anyway, closing the kernel isnt going to sell them more hardware
<5> cenuij: like, osx86 10.4.6 is out long back
<7> and who the hell would buy aan apple server? some dumb media company no doubt
<1> ok I go try to install this damn Driver....
<1> Wish me good luck
<1> bye
<4> if you succeeded with fedora, you can with anything else
<13> after I wake my pc up from suspension the sound is gone. I'm using 10.0. Is this a known issue?
<9> cenuij: They look cute :P
<7> daPhoenix: so do dell servers but they are slow as hell also ;)
<5> zePh7r: did you look at the volumes ?
<7> and hot
<7> slow and hot
<9> cenuij: Well, Dell service is good tho'. I've only had better service from IBM in my corporate days.
<7> daPhoenix: i guess when your servers get so hot you have to have damn good service haha :P
<14> can someone point me to the Software Updater fix. I used makeSUSEdvd to create a DVD of the 5 CDs and now I cant seem to run updates.
<5> hot, because they jsut plaster their thermal paste like ****
<15> hi all :)
<5> u should see the pics
<5> looks like someone splattered it
<13> rohan yes, they're fine
<14> !help
<12> FrostByte_Test: Sorry, the output is too long! Private messaging it to you!
<9> cenuij: Nah, Dells aren't really that bad. I've seen much worse in my time.
<15> !help
<12> kaiSVK: Sorry, the output is too long! Private messaging it to you!
<7> daPhoenix: yeah i guess they have come on a long way
<7> grrrr
<7> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.1/yast-source/
<7> doesnt register as having updates
<5> hey, tech9iner
<7> the YUM repo does thoush ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.1/yast-source/suse
<7> but the YUM repo doesnt work
<16> cenuij: i switched to smart, everything just works
<7> **** smart ;)
<16> updated kde like butter
<16> you may **** it, thing is that it does not **** you
<16> :P
<17> checking for cl... no
<17> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
<17> See `config.log' for more details.
<17> Can anyone help me with that
<17> I'm installing Gaim 1.5
<5> _david: i ***ume you installed the gcc package ?
<17> I don't think so
<17> I just get a new SuSe 10.1
<17> Where could I get gcc pack?
<5> _david: ok, install "gcc" then
<5> _david: use yast
<17> i witch module
<7> see my opinion is this, smart will never be the deafult package manager in suse. I want SUSE to be better so i'll use the default package manager and keep posting bug reports until it works
<17> in*
<17> ok
<17> Do you have a specifique section in yast?
<5> cenuij: wow, nice philosophy :)
<5> _david: just search for gcc ?
<17> hu
<17> I don't see any 'gcc' in yast window
<18> cenuij: indeed
<5> well, sorry, i am not on suse, but the fact is, _david , you need to install suse ..
<10> Calum`: do you have any iptables rules that would block outgoing ICMP or incoming ICMP?
<5> maybe someone else can tell you that ?
<17> I'm on SuSe ..
<5> yes, problem is, that i am not ..
<19> AFAIK all that is in place at the moment is the firewall, which is firmly switched off for now
<17> well
<10> Calum`: how about on the modem device?
<17> there is any other way to compile gcc?
<20> Calum`: can you set the negotiation speeds or is it all auto?
<21> !samba
<12> SAMBA howto for Suse: http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_1.htm
<5> _david: wait .. http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17174.html
<5> _david: this will tell you how and where to install gcc
<10> _david: if your installations sources are properly configured, "yast -i gcc binutils make glibc-devel" will probably let your system p*** that first ./configure test
<19> sarnold: No, I don't beleive so. No problem with Windoze, anyway.
<5> well, ok, scratch out all i said, _david , and do what sarnold said :)
<10> Calum`: what error message do you get when you ping the modem's IP?
<19> achandra: I am not sure to be honest...it's all happening by magic just now
<19> Destination address unreachable
<10> Calum`: does 'route -n' output look reasonable?
<20> Calum`: taking a look at \proc for the network interface might give you insight into the type of negotiation taking place..
<19> I haven't done route -n: what should it show?
<10> Calum`: it will show you the kernel's routing table
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