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<0> wait, with smart can i use deb sources, and install .deb files?
<1> ok ok ok
<2> warrior520: on debian
<3> lol
<0> ok thats what i thought.. so with suse i can use APT-RPM instead right
<3> smart channel --show
<0> rpm-sys
<0> thats all thats in there
<0> what should i add to be able to install my mp3 libdvdcss etc
<4> !mp3
<5> For MP3 Support in Suse 10 or 10.1, check <http://spinink.net/suse-for-windows-users/#mp3 : For Suse 9.3 just run YOU (Yast Online Update) and choose to install the extra multimedia packages.
<0> sPiN: the problem isnt the procedure
<0> sPiN: plus thats no good for me anyway im using smart... i need the 10.1 sources... i have looked them up but they just dont work
<4> well have fun
<6> sPiN: nacht
<0> you mean have fun looking for working sources?



<7> new suse package manager seem a lot buggy
<4> warrior520 meet user error... user error meet warrior520
<4> you two kids have fun now
<3> warrior520: smart channel --add http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386
<3> if you are using 10.0
<3> change to 10.1 if you like
<1> ok yast2 is doing some package installation now. let's see
<8> hi guys, anyone here running 10.1 with an ATI video card? I have a X1900xtx and wondering if i'll have problems
<8> also, how do I make it use the AMD64 dual core kernel?
<3> Chamlap`: the installer will install the correct kernel
<9> goin sleep
<9> nn the_dude
<3> you should have nothing to worry about there
<3> nn aka_druid
<8> ok great, thank yu
<3> and about ati:
<3> !ati
<5> On SUSE Linux 10.x, download the latest drivers from http://www.ati.com , then follow these instructions: http://jarpack.net/ati-driver-how-to
<8> i used the x64 cd's
<8> perfect, thank you
<3> right
<3> x86_64 should work just fine
<8> whelp, wish me luck, this should be interesting
<3> ati has always been problematic
<10> ATI, quite frankly, can go to hell :-)
<11> heh, unlikely
<7> surely they can't..... there are surely some patent who are used.....
<10> nvidia owns the patents. They can do whatever they want.
<11> it's also that they're not GPLd, too
<12> I'm on a (very) slow computer right now....it has suse 10.0+KDE+tinyproxy+freenx..........I use it as a proxy/torrent zombie/kopete computer............would there be any advantage with upgrading suse?
<13> nvidia will never OS the drivers
<8> ok, why does installing the gnome environment install kde3 base?
<13> they say, at least, they have alot of IP that is not thiers in the drivers
<11> Chamlap`: because suse uses a combination of both Qt/KDE and GTK/Gnome for its products
<11> on a KDE install you get Firefox, for example
<11> Yast is written in Qt
<8> ahh, that makes sense
<8> thanks
<10> SuSEhelp: mp3
<5> For MP3 Support in Suse 10 or 10.1, check <http://spinink.net/suse-for-windows-users/#mp3 : For Suse 9.3 just run YOU (Yast Online Update) and choose to install the extra multimedia packages.
<12> Chamlap: a difault install of suse + kde installs some gnome libs, etc, for example....
<12> so, all you .1ers - is it worth it?
<8> does vmware player install fine on 10.1? Anyone try that yet?
<11> none of those things particularly changed much in 10.1, and if it's a computer you don't really use...
<14> Chamlap`: yes vmplayer works
<15> howdy
<12> apokryphos: how hard/easy is it to upgrade via "system upgrade" in yast? does it break anything?
<11> shuffle2: I presume that's the same thing as (i) booting the ISO, (ii) selecting "upgrade"
<11> in which case yes, it's very easy (I think you have to click like 2 things, and no -- it should be pretty seamless
<12> ....but it's done over the network, right?
<11> not sure; never tried/done it
<16> http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/eegore/VMware3.png <== Check this out
<11> ouch, gnome....... xmms
<12> ...oh well, I'm finding out now....ill try out 10.1 on my crappy computer before my good one i guess :|
<4> http://spinink.net/2006/05/13/3-ways-of-upgrading-to-suse-linux-101/
<4> shuffle2: there ya go, it is easy and worked fine in my testing
<17> hi all... new linux convert here... I managed to kill my firefox, need help fixing it (details to follow)...
<16> Now at least I have a way to test Solaris for work
<10> eegore: yup...I've done that before. Not really useful, but it's interesting to VNC from a VM to another server, and then RDP or VNC back to your original desktop, and create an infinite loop when your bored.
<15> shuffle2, the source repositories such as packman and guru are so overloaded with updaters trying to fix the buggy yast abd zen that it's very difficult to connected to the update sites without failing



<11> sPiN: nice
<10> I also find that *********ing fills that void as well.
<4> ahh hahaha
<10> :)
<16> I have to come up with some more secure solutions fopr work
<4> eegore: is that what the kids are calling it these days?
<17> Running 10.1; crashed firefox (I think with stumbleupon extension), which wouldn't be so bad, except that it seems that session manager recovers the crashing session. Now, no matter how I open firefox, it crashes instantly
<10> sPiN: weren't you writing an article up on AppArmor?
<12> oh hey BluesKai.....ever get around to listening to godspeed then? :)
<11> BluesKai: you could use a mirror
<4> sky_monkey007: nope, never touched the stuff
<16> M***ive deployment of SuSE with scripted user loggins to their windows desktops
<17> I've even uninstalled and reinstalled firefox (through the package manager)
<15> even the mirrors are busy
<10> ala7: have you tried starting firefox from a terminal and seeing what the error output is?
<17> yeah, let me get that real quick
<10> just hop into Konsole and type "firefox"
<11> BluesKai: guru mirror works perfectly here, as does my packman mirror
<10> ala7: paste the output to pastbin.com and post the link to it here
<17> (Gecko:8394): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_parent_window: ***ertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
<10> pastebin.com rather
<10> ala7 stop
<17> sry
<10> you cannot paste here in the channel
<17> kk
<10> it will get you autobanned
<12> !paste
<5> Please don.t paste in the channel, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/svn or http://phpfi.com/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://sourcepost.sytes.net/ or http://pastebin.com/ or http://pastebin.ca/ instead.
<15> I listened to some of it shuffle2, quite interestimg :)
<10> go to pastebin.com and paste it there
<10> come back and just post the link to your post on pastebin.com. It's super easy and no signup required I think
<10> I think I know what your problem is. You either need to reinstall or update your gtk/gtk2 engines I believe.
<16> The whole idea is to close down the holes people may try and sneak out company files since the virtual machine can be rigidly controlled to block access to removable media and other methods . and the users image is stored on a remote server so they cannot even hijick it from a local machine
<12> BuesKai: neat-o :)
<15> I did a clean install of 10.1 so i din't save any tunes
<17> alright, it's here: http://pastebin.com/719870
<12> bummer
<10> ala7: yeah...that looks like a problem with your gtk2-engines I think.
<17> so... how do I fix that?
<10> go into YaST -> Software Managment, and search for gtk
<10> you'll probably see something that says "gtk2-engines". If there is an update for it, just right click and select "Upgrade"
<10> check to see if there are any other gtk2 packages that need upgrading as well, and do that too.
<12> sPiN: thanks. PS- that panoramic mountain gets me every time :)
<10> that will likely fix your problem. I think I had the same one a long time ago.
<17> hmm... YaST search says nothing found
<10> aroo?
<15> so I managed to install Xgl with the konsole cmds , now I have to learn how to use it :)
<17> Is is possible I never installed them?
<10> it should pop up at least a list of installable gtk programs...
<10> irregardless if you have installed them or not
<4> yw shuffle2, and thank you, it is one of my favorite places in the world
<10> ala7: your firefox used to work, right?
<17> ooh, yeah, inside software management it does
<10> yeah :)
<17> I thought you meant YaST->edit->search
<10> heh, no
<17> yes, firefox used to work
<17> worked great :)
<12> ala7: why not use konqueror?
<10> sPiN: I somehow borked my Xgl when I upgraded to the latest version of xgl-cvs from that compiz forum :\
<10> konqueror is faster, thats for sure.
<10> I'd try it for a week and see how you like it
<4> sky_monkey007: roll back to your old rpm
<17> shuffle2: Been using firefox for much longer... I'm new to KDE and linux in general
<10> sPiN: thats the thing...I think I deleted the rpm :\
<13> sky_monkey007: the compiz-quinn packages borked me to when the dock-plugin is enabled
<4> use the one off the 10.1 instl-source
<12> well, chances are that your konq works fine now....so why not test it out as a web browser :)
<10> there is really no "roll-back" function per se, is there? You can only uninstall the offending rpm, and reinstall the one that worked, right/
<17> heh, yeah, been having to do that a lot
<16> This is starting to get crazy, I am going to have to upgradr to a dual core proc to handle all the stuff I am doing and up my ram to 4 gigs
<13> well, your compiz might be trying to use plugins which dotn exist anymore...
<12> eegore: got money to burn, eh?


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