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<0> the one thing about suse that can be confusing is the pluralism in package - management "front - ends"
<0> not toe me anyway, but in anycase
<1> benJIman|tov: how would I disable pango?
<2> nagulator: well in 10.0 and before there was only yast for package management by default
<0> yeah I know
<2> nagulator: hopefully gui will be something that might be looked into for 10.2, but as you can see they had enough problems getting things to actually work
<1> the only thing I don't like about smart is that it downloads first, instales later
<0> i was referring to 10.1
<2> frb-work: it is by default on 10.1 I think
<3> got 1.3 suse 10.0 256 here
<0> apt-get was a nice add - in but tooo debian
<2> frb-work: you can change that
<2> yaloki showed me
<4> alan`: check suse's hardware compatibility chum
<5> If novell one day ever dropped support for yast and started telling people to brush up on the wget and rpm commands.. I'd laugh.. people would be ****ting bricks.
<1> the only reason I use Firefox is google tools don't work in konqueror
<6> tho with dejavu fonts I can see arabic, there are still many little squares at wikipedia...
<1> Analytics is flat out broken, no matter the identifier
<2> frb-work: might be smart upgrade --stepped perhaps
<1> I'll try that next time, I personally have an ***load of disk space, so I'll not care right now
<2> bah rug failed the upgrade
<2> ahh informative error messages "Transaction failed:"
<0> benJIman|tov: you handle smart well?
<2> nagulator: err it mainly works for me
<4> ahem.. 1:21 to minimum graphical 10.1 sPiN lmao.. u been WARned ;]
<0> k
<5> benJIman|tov, sounds like an error message you don't want to read while using the ATM/ABM.
<2> wickers: atm?
<1> benJIman|tov: come to the light, embrace python
<5> "Your account balance fails in life.. j00 ****"
<2> ahh heh
<5> Automated teller machine...
<5> or Automated banking machine...
<2> ah that sort of atm
<5> ATM/ABM
<0> http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=17348 <--- this is a nice read if anyone wants a cover of the issue, not the only one, but i find it interesting for the dual boot thing with osx86 :P
<4> lol
<5> nagulator, don't priate software.
<2> I like that rug can roll back transactions
<0> wickers: I do not
<0> I said that it is an interesting read
<5> using OSX on non-apple hardware violates the software's EULA.
<6> does anyone know a font a little more *complete* than dejavu? or some guide to the matter?
<0> btw I have apple hardware and it sux @$$
<5> nagulator, I really like apple hardware actually...
<0> wickers: as long as it does not run osx
<0> it is cool
<0> lol your problem not mine :P
<0> apple is a tad overpriced
<5> Depends how you view it..
<5> with the software that's included it's alomst equal these days.
<4> i view it from the 'legible price tag' here.. thus.. it doth ****
<5> But that's a flame war for another #
<0> well I am not going to support apple, not condemn it. But it is still not the box I would use for everyday stuff
<0> nor*
<0> it costs too much money for what it does actually, putting everything aside
<4> lmao.. never been nervous reading 'Saving package manager configuration' till now rofl
<5> It's not something I'd use as a server (OSX server has issues... thank XNU for that) but for everyday use it does a great job.
<5> And I still think OmniGraffle is the best vector drawing tool out there... I wish inkscape would catch up.
<0> wickers: osx is not a server os, exactly. the only good thing about it is that it is based on darwin, which is a BSD os
<5> nagulator, No, OSX server is a server OS.
<5> As can be OSX on it's own.
<0> wickers: read up, I said it is based on a BSD os
<0> do not state the obvious
<1> be nice
<0> hmm yeah, sorry you are right frb
<7> gin and tonic with strawberries :P
<1> and take the OSX discussion away :)
<4> hey hey sPiN 'er ole bouy bouy.. rebooting now.... bout 5 mins to go chummie ole buddy ole pal ole excuse for whiners ****ing up ya...
<1> lets get back to the pr0n and b33r
<8> amen
<5> ...
<7> thats gooood stuff
<9> hi
<0> ok yast repos updating / refresing
<9> how do you fix your udev so it adds alsa support for /dev/snd
<0> sh*
<9> 10.1 isn't doing it
<7> hurry tech, im on my 3rd g&t and i make um with double shots
<4> old bartender here and dont recall that combe sPiN.. interesthing
<5> I had this craving for beer and pizza the other day, so tonight I ordered pizza and cracked a beer.
<0> let's see how suse 10.1 will be have this time, no zen no nothing, only y2
<4> lmao
<5> my tummy is in heaven.
<9> anyone?
<0> behave* drunk!!!!
<7> makes it a purdy red color
<4> ojoy... i finally get access to spins warm paws.. and he's bout to p***out... o fukn joy r o f l m f a o
<5> EnterP***word, what the hell
<5> ?
<4> freshly rebooted here sPiN and just need to create da users n chit.. an im hotnreadeye
<9> My suse install alsa doesnt work
<9> but when i run snddevices it works
<9> but the /dev/snd gets erased cuz of udev and i dont know what ruls to use
<9> wickers: any idea?
<5> I usually use alsaconfig but yast is a bit sticky with sound settings.
<9> Hrm
<9> Well Yast dont work either
<0> ok does anyone have a page for y2 cli install for multimedia support (i will not use apt / yum / rug...)
<9> i tried setting it up with yast.. it just says "can not load driver"
<9> or something
<9> when its perfectly loadable
<5> you could modprobe it by hand.
<9> wickers: thats what i do
<5> if you know the drive info..
<9> wickers: and then i run snddevices but i want to be able ot do it without doing that
<5> so add it to your startup script.
<9> i could do a cheap hack
<9> ya wickers i know i could do that
<9> but i would rather use udev :)
<10> EnterP***word: can you add the module to /etc/sysconfig/kernel MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT ?
<9> sarnold: probably i thought you edited modprobe.conf
<7> hrm.. failed to add 3.5.2 source :(
<9> sarnold: i'll give it a try but what will that do?
<9> sarnold: I dont think that will solve my udev problem will it?
<0> http://compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=119 <--- hmm new quinn rpm for xgl :P
<9> sarnold: i'll try it when i get home
<10> EnterP***word: MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT will ask the initscripts to load the module; that should cause the modules to emit the necessary hotplug events to udevd to get udevd to mknod the devices for you
<9> ok sarnold: thanx. i'll tyr it out
<10> EnterP***word: if you figure out something 'cleaner', i'd like to hear it
<10> EnterP***word: i think i preferred the modprobe.conf method that knew how to load which module to provide /dev/snd when some process accessed /dev/snd...
<10> or, at least, it made more sense to me.
<9> sarnold: does modprobe.conf still work?
<9> sarnold: you just taught me something new :) i didnt know abotu /etc/sysconfig/kernel is that a Linux Standard now?
<10> EnterP***word: it is still consulted, but the "load on demand" functionality is probably ... gone completely.
<9> sarnold: I dont know the terminality whats load on demand?
<9> when you just modprobe it?
<10> EnterP***word: i believe it is sepecific to SUSE. Debian uses /etc/modules .. and my RHEL machine is busy swapping in vim. give me a minue :)
<10> EnterP***word: kmod used to say "oh, this process has asked for ipv6, I should go load the ipv6 module."
<0> sPiN: 3.5.2 is out?
<11> if you can install APT to suse, why would anyone use yaSt.. more to the point, why isnt in included as the default manager, since suse isnt very good with dependencies
<10> EnterP***word: RHEL4's /etc/sysconfig/kernel doesn't have a MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT. I believe for red hat, then, making your own initscript is the accepted way to get a module to load at boot.
<12> hey ho neighbors , what is happening?
<9> Warrior520: use smart its pretty new i like it
<7> nagulator:been out, but 10.1 source is new today
<11> smart? never heard of it
<11> EnterP***word: can i install it off the cds or with yast?
<9> smartpm.org
<12> Enter P***word, what happened to EnterUserName
<0> Spin: i meant precompiled stuff for suse
<1> if quanta is going to start crashing again, I'll have to use dreamweaver
<9> Warrior520: I believe its on the cd's
<0> I know it is already out for quite some time (days are eons to opensource :P)
<9> eegore: i was playing around again :)
<0> go figure about months :P
<12> I see
<1> !smart
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