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<1> don't say that breztel
<2> is usb better than pc for nick card
<2> buying one right now
<1> i'll be kicking that one in July
<3> nick card ? pc ?
<3> network adapter aka nic & pcmcia ?
<4> drawlean: oh! you too ? :-) ;_)
<2> network card can be pci or usb is one better?
<1> NIC card on USB? doesn't sound to hot to me
<5> yes, get a pci NIC
<0> USB seems tow ork for most OS's
<3> ahh, pci
<3> well, i have a realtek usb network card
<3> but i would choose a pci unless there is a serious reason not to
<3> like no free slots, laptop etc
<2> airlink 101 g
<2> or dlink 520
<1> laptop with no build in NIC? do they even make those?
<6> pci cards are cheaper ...
<2> ath chipset
<3> bwalle, yeah, that too
<5> snowbird: no atheros drivers in 10.1
<1> dlink not good with linux (work but euugh!!)
<4> xgl really works in SuSE also then :-)
<4> Works well*
<3> drawlean, well, haven't seen one lately, but there definitely were :)
<1> ndiswrapper (shudder)
<3> ibm machines, by the way
<1> I have a thinkpad that's got an NIC RJ45 on the back that's not actually connectd to anything inside
<2> airlink with Atheros on the way
<2> 101g
<5> snowbird: what suse are you running?
<2> 10.0
<5> ok, but you realise if you want to upgrade to 10.1 there are not atheros drivers included in 10.1?
<2> i got another one
<5> ok :)
<2> maybe should wait?
<7> There are other issues with 10.1 as well - I'd keep 10.0 if I were you. I am.
<2> thouse dlink 520 lok nice
<2> it airlink supper g loking like should put it on ceedit card
<3> daPhoenix, what are those issues ?
<7> Richlv: Mainly bugs in the package manager etc. Stuff they'll prolly patch ''soonish''
<1> dlink is okay if you don't mind using ndiswrapper (though depends which one, bad ones use the acx100[?])
<2> maybe il wait
<8> hi
<3> daPhoenix, ahh, yeah... the late changes to it probably didn't help :)
<1> Richlv: is gonna be a problem getting an online-update for RUG if RUG's broke and wont configure online-update
<9> ****ing 10.1 :}
<3> oh, sure :)
<9> :{
<9> hi all
<3> so is the new packagemanager based on mono or what ?
<5> no
<5> its not
<1> except the rug part
<1> the bit that doesn't work
<5> libzypp is written in C
<1> rug.exe
<10> jemand deutsch
<1> you eat germans?
<5> drawlean: its not helpfull to keep saying that, because it does not work for you does not imply that is broken for everyone
<5> since so many people cant configure xgl shoudl i say to everyone in this channel that asks that it is 'broken' ?
<5> if you have issues with rug im sure i can help solve them :)
<4> SuSE-gnome is not well "refined" as SuSE-KDE is : I mean well balanced fonts size
<1> rug.exe service-add x (configuring online update) now running for 206 minutes, 9 seconds of CPU) slow/broken or just problematic
<5> god knows i had enough fights with it in the beta's and RC's ;)
<11> What is RUG?
<9> !rug
<12> http://en.opensuse.org/Examples_using_rug
<11> thanks ;)
<1> well I was told slow, and hopeful at 16 minutes, It's now been sitting there for 3 hours
<1> what do you suggest
<5> drawlean: ctrl-c stop rug
<5> drawlean: then rug restart
<1> this is from a new upgrade, Yast->Online Update configuration
<4> Any hints on extra SuSE (10.1) repositories ( using yast ) ??
<5> online update confuguration is not rug though... what are you trying to do?
<1> trying to configure on-line update
<5> but then you woul be using yast not rug?
<1> which launches rug
<5> so why are you saying rug is broken/
<5> no it doesnt
<5> yast synchs with ZMD
<5> yas doesnt use rug
<13> when I'm at the graphical login screen (for an x session), how do i just get to a regular terminal - without logging into an x session?
<1> yast->Online Update configuration , lauches perl suseregister which launches rug
<1> then stalls
<5> oh?
<2> then what chipset supported in 10.1? none?
<13> i thought i just had to hit F2 or something..
<1> Abort doesn't kill the rug either, let me reboot it and start clean
<13> to get to another terminal screen
<5> drawlean: no point in a reboot
<1> CTRL-ALT-F2
<1> to get to a console
<5> drawlean: its probably ZMD thats stalled anyway
<5> drawlean: all things package management from either yast or rug go through ZMD eventually
<14> hey my start kiker is suddently away how to start it new?
<2> how do i stop splash screens?
<5> drawlean: try killing the ZMD process, at console rug shutdown or if that doesnt work kill the process manually
<1> rebooting right now to clean up previsou beagle/rug debris
<5> drawlean: pointless if you ask me ;)
<14> help!
<1> possibly, can't go wrong with a clean start though (unless something broken)
<5> drawlean: there is nothing a reboot will do to help you
<5> 0, nicht, nada, diddlysquat
<14> got this message : INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
<14> wtf??
<13> draw - how do i get back to the GUI login screen? i got into console...thought ctrl-alt-f7 would get me back
<1> likes I said there was defuinct dbeagle process a perl suse_register and rug.exe, the abort dialog didn't do what it said on the box
<4> I am gone --- thanks again and ahve a very good day - cyou later :-)
<5> drawlean: that doesnt requrie a reboot to fix
<14> cant login ! its exiting alone whitout asking
<5> drawlean: rebootign is the way of the dark side ( windows )
<1> yes OK judicious use of kill -9 would have worked, but I couldn't be fagged to pick out the procs
<5> drawlean: ps aux | grep zmd
<5> kill -KILL processid
<5> repeat for rug
<5> job done
<1> err not quite, if you kill the rug, the perl suse_register script throws a dialog and relaunches rug
<5> so kill the perl process instead
<5> and if necessary kill yast process as well
<14> help help help my kde is exiting from alone into bash an then it says cant respawn after 5 minutes .........
<1> likie I said, fag with with the proc list or (like u said) go to the dark side and reboot :-)
<5> killall yast
<5> that should work nicely
<5> i would have though...
<15> that suse_register script is lame, the damn thing kills my net connection on my laptop, and doesnt bring up any kind of dialog, does the same if i access it via yast
<1> except for the defunct beagle proc
<16> Houston, we have a problem !! my download speed is too slow ! 90 instead of 180 ! hALF !
<1> sPIN same here, at least the WiFI, I've now had to plug the cable in, but that didn't help
<1> so cenuij systems in init state 3
<15> on my desktop, it just doesnt work
<1> how do I configure on-line update?
<14> help help help my kde is exiting from alone into bash an then it says cant respawn after 5 minutes .........
<1> d45H have you checked your /var/log/X logs?
<5> drawlean: first since it sounds like it had a fit in the middle of tryign to set it up i would clean the zypp cache and also nuke the ZMD database, then restart the ZMD process
<14> not yet what should i see in it
<15> yaay for kde 3.5.2 :) this konversation is better than the 3.5.1 cause it has the green tab letter to tell you there is something new, and red if someone says your name
<5> drawlean: rug cc
<1> d45h look for errors
<5> drawlean: should clean teh cache
<1> Cen: CachecleanSuccessful
<5> drawlean: then rug shutdown to end the ZMD process, if it fails ro shut zmd down then ZMD is definately at fault
<1> looks like we have a winner
<5> drawlean: its down?
<1> kill zmd?
<1> no it's stuck
<5> drawlean: yeah kill zmd :)
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