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<0> ill try
<1> xgl rocks in gnome, however. I hope the compiz developers soon will have full compatibility with kde
<0> but must let my download finish
<2> idlemind: yaloki does
<3> it runs nice for me in kde
<2> fernando: doesnt work that way
<2> i dont see that happening
<2> youll be waiting for kde4 to get proper xgl lovin in kde
<1> sPiN: and when will kde4 be released? 2007?
<4> hey btw I tried vista b2 - it's now as slow as kde3
<5> jengelh, you mean Vista buggy 2? :p
<4> suseux: it works well FWIW
<5> Not from what I seen
<6> how about crossfire ... any linux support there or is that all hardware driven?
<7> I can't run Vista, my video card only has 64M of ram
<2> ati.. id doubt it
<5> lol I whole set of new drivers for Vista
<2> frb, i think you can run it, you just cant use gl***
<6> frb-work: lol; you're not the only one that's going to run into that especially w/aero 3d
<4> that's BS. VMware's video card has probably no ram at all yet it does the basic 32-bit thing
<7> what's the point of Vista if I can't have gl***?
<4> who needs aero
<7> I do
<6> so doesn't vista - aero = xp?
<4> all corporate versions of windows come wiht the funky styles shut off
<2> idlemind: essentially
<6> i mean we can forget about winfs
<5> sPiN, I seen then demo beta2 on a nvidia 6600GT and they had to disable aero :p
<2> they have killed all the projects that were going to set vista apart from xp
<8> jengelh: Actually Pro/Corp have normal styles on by default.
<4> winfs is as stupid as reiser's idea to make a semantic fs
<2> yeah thats what i have SuseUX
<6> yup .... i think they made a windows copy of beagle and that's about i
<6> t
<4> daphoenix: no. winxppro has "somewhat normal style", that is: blue taskbar and a "bliss.jpg" background. The real Pro version (read: Windows 2003 server) has the regular cl***ic style ever since win95 +/- color chagnes
<2> i really hope people are smart enough to see through the hype of vista
<6> they won't
<5> they are sheep
<8> jengelh: You said corporate edition. Pro and Corp editions are Corporate editions, Server is server.
<2> like seriously, do you reaaaally want to pay 250 bucks to get an extremely resource intensive UI
<6> i can't wait for the vendors (hp,ibm,toshiba) to start releasing crappy integrated video controllers on there hardware and sending it out the door w/vista only to watch it crumble when the user boots it and it's eye candy up and it's slower than there old pc
<7> 15G of disk space FOR THE OS
<2> frb, thats ****ing absurd!!! its not like that is applications...
<5> sPiN, It will come with OEM machines so I guess they will not notice
<9> Is it possible to install Suse 10.1 to a partition with some data on it ?
<2> you are still gonna install vista, then spend 2 hours installing all the other apps you need
<4> well, a gnome+kde taking 5.3 gig is also not few
<5> jengelh, errr no
<6> isn't it only like 2 gb for both?
<4> susuex: err yes. pull a 10.1 install and activate gnome and kde ful, plus some games
<5> jengelh, what are you talking about?, SUSE comes with more than just gnome and kde
<2> SuseUX: that is the only way i see vista moving off the shelf is oem
<4> i better get out of this heat
<2> idlemind: an install of gnome OR kde is ~2.5GB
<5> yep you'd better
<4> fact is i'm not switching to vista :p
<7> there is only one way I'll get vista
<7> if the final product costs less than $50
<2> from what i understand, vista does a good job of scaling the graphical engine for your hardware
<8> Well, there's one thing Vista does better than SUSE: The updater actually works.
<1> i have installed linux+kde in 2GB partitions
<5> sPiN, I hope SLED 10 can make inrows into the enterprise market, thats where there desktop starts off
<6> i agree w/frb ... plus i'd like 2 have it as something 2 show my grandkids one day ... and be like see what being greedy gets u son ...
<2> they dont include aero in like the 2 lowest level versions of vista
<7> I ran the upgrade advisor, and they said I needed Windows Vista Ultimate
<7> because of what I wanted to do
<2> ill get me a copy via a msdn license the college has going on
<2> i need to use it atleast enough to support clients using it
<7> if I ever have to support it, someone else is paying the $5000 to get a computer good enough to run it and diagnostic tools
<6> lol; a true consultant u are ...
<5> I'll have SLED 10 anyday
<8> You pay for your own machines frb? You got a bad deal there :P
<7> my $450 laptop smokes most everything we have in this office
<2> is sled 10 that close to being done?
<7> I just need some ram
<6> like a crac head
<6> one more lil hit and he'll be perfect
<2> i want to demo sled to see if i can move some clients to it
<5> sPiN, should be
<7> I have 512M :P
<6> i have 2GB
<2> when vista is about to come out, im going to make a big push to get ppl to move to linux so instead of paying me to upgrade machines and several expensive copies of vista, they can just pay me to setup linux, which is also much easier for me to admin remotely
<10> and cheaper for them in the long run
<6> sPiN: any of your clients running OpenOffice yet?
<2> then again, its prolly less money for me in the long run... they wont be paying me to come over and fix windows issues
<2> idlemind: a couple of them
<6> good deal
<6> sPiN: hit them up first ... they'll be the easist
<2> i got one whose business uses freaking WORKS
<6> ouch
<2> why... because it came it came with a computer
<2> they use works spreadsheets
<2> and have the simplest spread sheets ever... they could sooo be using OOo, but you know how users are
<6> we all know
<2> i actually tried to move them to linux once before, atleast a couple of the machines, the linux boxes could hold all the business data, and it would be really easy for me to setup mirroring and even remote mirroring
<2> time to get out the tablet and play with photoshop :P
<6> brb
<7> Cleartype on windows is hella pretier than on linux
<7> how do I make the bytecode interpreter not ****?
<10> sPiN: which tablet?
<10> i need one of those
<2> wacom intous2 9x12
<7> how can you use that?
<7> it's like painting a house with every stroke :P
<2> i have big screens, 16x12
<2> 19", so its a really good ratio
<7> I'm thinking of getting a 4x5
<2> without measuring, id say its pretty damn close to 1:1
<10> mac or windoze?
<7> Leenux
<10> he's using photoshop
<10> that means its not leenux
<2> windows
<2> i do not care for macs
<2> although i wouldnt mind having a mac mini around
<10> i have a powermac i'm using for ps
<2> cat is playing fetch like it was his job :)
<11> nabend
<2> i can fly on ps for windows, i stumble like crazy using a mac
<10> yeah, mac is slow interface
<5> You tried PIxel?
<2> i wish i knew someone who was a power mac user
<2> SuseUX: yea! it was pretty cool
<5> shame it's not free
<2> i dont know how dude gets away with that though
<2> i tried a beta before he jumped the price
<5> yer adobe have patents on the UI
<5> I dont even know how that app gets away with it
<5> it's very like PS
<2> krita is coming along very nicely!, its got a beautiful interface.. im just waiting for it to get all the features and usability of PS
<5> krita, nah
<6> does ne one know how to make kde applications appear better in gnome? ... do i just mess w/the ~/.kde directory?
<5> yuck
<2> the usability is the main thing, its all about the workflow and being able to move very quickly thorugh the ui
<7> I'm waiting for krita to stop ****ing
<12> Dose anyone have a good guide for setting up NIS & NFS?
<7> I opened 10 files in krita, it opened 10 kritas
<7> pissed me off so much I installed gimp
<5> indeed
<6> Tortanick: umm nfs is a piece of cake ... NIS ... any reason why instead of ldap->automount
<6> or samba?
<13> Strange bug : I don't have any optical media as an install source, but some packages in Yast Software Manager get directed to "CD 1", which has never existed; as such, the packages fail.
<7> the only reason to use NIS is to support SunOS4 or IRIX
<12> not samba because its pure Linux, not Ldap because I can't see any option for LDAP server
<12> just cliant
<7> MukiEX: "CD 1" is the generic name, even as an netinstall or a dvd
<6> why not have ldap server in place of running a machine as the NIS server? is your storage consolidated or spread out?
<6> i take it u're trying to upgrade a peer-to-peer network?
<5> sPiN, Mind opensourcing your Pixel to me? :p
<12> no file server
<7> setting up an LDAP server is bloody easy
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