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<0> benJIman, yes, but he needs the updates and he can't update using yast without the updates
<1> benJIman: well when YOU started and gave me the warning about the packman repos i clicked the "dont show message again", and it remebered that, but YOU still closes down immediatly when i Accept the update
<2> madgik85: sounds like you're up to date then
<1> benJIman: but there are updates checked by default, and those dont download
<2> oh
<2> you sure checked to install rather than checked as installed already
<1> benJIman: i think u might be right, its a Blue tick when i think means Keep
<1> benJIman: ah, well the Packman repos seem to be working now, Thank you for your help :)
<3> is the "Software Updater" broken?
<4> Usually
<2> jxmiller: yes use yaast
<2> yast
<3> would smart work too?
<5> i've removed all my yast source because they weren't working, and i'm adding them all again, but for some reason download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source
<5> won't add
<1> kronoz: i think that server is down, i had similar problem, i just used another mirror
<3> I opened YaST and clicked on System Update
<5> madgik85, were are the mirrors?
<3> Sorry I just got back home and saw some of the chat ... are there updates for SuSE 10.1 available?
<1> i used mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/ and mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/
<1> both HTTP
<5> ok
<0> jxmiller, yes, updates are availabel and smart would also work
<3> superniemand the sytem update did some wierd things so i aborted and now trying "online update"
<0> jxmiller, that's a very inacurate description
<0> jxmiller, I still recommend to use smart
<3> superniemand i tried using Smart and since I am a newb (i guess) I couldnt figure out how to do a update for the OS
<2> jxmiller: don't use the system update module
<5> ergh i hope 10.2 will fix the package manager, so broken :(
<3> benJIman check^
<0> jxmiller, refresh all sources and click on update everything
<6> packaege manager is fixed :)
<6> uh package
<0> jxmiller, on shell it would be "smart --shell --> update --> upgrade --> exit"
<3> superniemand sweet i like using shell commands better .. but I hardly know any of them
<0> jxmiller, there is always man and info and command --help
<3> Smart is working wonderfully thanks
<0> npnp
<3> 43mb worth of updates
<0> thats not very much
<3> hmm .. I think this is the first time I have done any updates
<0> jxmiller, I would install the amrt-addons from guru, its great for automatic list / sources updating
<3> superniemand amrt-addons from guru are available from Smart manager?
<0> only if u have guru sources included in ur smart
<0> if not just dl it manually and do rpm-ihv smart-addons-package
<3> i see I will look into that once the updates are finished
<0> k
<0> I'll give u the correct url mom
<3> I dont know if its how I have suse and kde setup but windows XP ran much faster is that normal?
<0> jxmiller, ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS/i686/smart-0.41-28.guru.suse101.i686.rpm , ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS/i686/smart-addons-0.41-28.guru.suse101.i686.rpm , ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS/i686/smart-gui-0.41-28.guru.suse101.i686.rpm , u will also need to have installed rpm-phython and python-gtk, but that should be on ur system already
<0> just do an rpm -ihv on the ftp adresses I gave u
<7> how do i extrace a file from an rpm package ?
<7> *extract
<8> lz1gjd, easiest way is to use mc, and it will "open" the rpm.. by selecting the contents link
<7> thx ;)
<8> otherwise you would need to mess with rpm2cpio
<2> rpm2cpio filename.rpm | cpio -ivd
<3> seems like the first two links do not work
<3> yeah i get errors on all 3
<0> jxmiller, wich errors?
<3> warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.XhcXsI: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 58857177
<3> error: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/__db.000
<9> couple questions about network installs. first, sometimes a package isn't read correctly. with a plain network install i just hit retry and it will work the 2nd time. autoyast seems to just skip it. is there a way to get autoyast to auto retry a few times?
<0> jxmiller, that error has got nothing to do w/ the urls, those r correct
<8> sysrage, no idea
<0> jxmiller, looks like ur rpm database is in troubel, maybe it was the yast thing that happened
<2> probably zmd is locking it
<3> hmm sounds like its time for a 4th install
<8> STOP REINSTALLING AND REBOOTING!!!!!!
<0> jxmiller, I would do rcnovell-zmd stop
<9> second question, on some of the scsi servers i'm doing network installs to, it installs fine, but fails to boot once installed. spams the screen with tty junk. works fine from a cd install, only seems to happen with a net install. any ideas?
<9> net installs work fine with ide or sas drives
<0> if it doesn't work after that do an rpm --rebuilddb (I might be wrong here, so plx correct me guys if necessary)
<0> jxmiller,
<8> sysrage, shrug.. there shouldnt be any differences, so its also a esoteric one
<9> hrmph
<8> heh
<3> ok i will try those
<3> rcnovell-zmd stop (command not found)
<2> rczmd stop
<3> ok i did a rpm --rebuilddb and its doing something .. looks like it may be froze not sure
<3> ohh there it goes
<3> rczmd stop works
<10> patience
<0> ok, no try again if both commands finished succesfully
<0> *now*
<3> same error on one
<0> that is bad
<0> I just ran out of ideas
<3> actually .. its "warning: waiting for exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages"
<0> maybe s/o else can help u from here on
<6> did you turn off smart? smart locks rpm/Packages
<3> its cool I am starting not to like suse lol please dont take that as a put down or anything no offense its just maybe not for me
<6> if you're doing rpm commands from console you wanna close smart and yast
<3> Grommet ding we got a winner : and after running that rpm -ihv it says its already installed lol
<6> :)
<11> hi, I'm trying to look for the DVD ISO for 10.0. The install instructions say it should be 4.5 gbm but I only see 3.6 and 4.4. Is either correct?
<0> jxmiller, no offense, but u say u r new and u need to learn a little more patience, U just installed a completly new BS , making ur first steps and u only have got _one_ problem, which, imho, is quite a good start w/ a new OS
<6> hehe a new BS might not sway him :)
<0> jxmiller, well, if everything is installed u r good
<3> so what is a new BS?
<0> s/BS/OS
<6> I think he meant OS :)
<3> i see
<0> I was thinking german, sorry
<6> oh, BS is something funny for me :)
<3> i really like linux ... its free ... all programs are free (for the most part) and the community os great .. its just frustrating at moments
<12> hello everyone, I have a question - I want to evaluate Groupwise 7.0 (want to implement it for our company) and I would like to know where to ask any help related about it in irc or mailing lists? Also I would like to know if GW 7 runs on OpenSUSE 10.1
<12> jxmiller: but frustration is also part when you run Windows or Mac OS X, sometimes even bigger
<0> Grommet, what is a BS to you?
<7> does any1 know where I could get a wired (wired.is.free.fr) precompiled package for suse 10.1 x64 ?
<0> jxmiller, just the prob w/ the lock. It's clear u can't access rpm while having smart open as it should be clear u should not try to install another version of smart while running it ;-) I thought u worked on console and exited smart than stopped zen and after that rebuilt ur rpm database
<3> BS is the abbreviation (usually) for bull ****
<0> ic
<6> super bull sheis :)
<0> I'll keep that in mind
<0> LOL
<3> is there an equivilent of a task manager in suse?
<4> Several
<13> jxmiller: top
<14> RickX: where did you find the size of 4,5 GB?
<4> ksysguard is nice
<4> There's a gnome version too
<4> ps is the command line version
<0> or vmstat
<11> Hamolus, http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/suse_linux/instructions_eval.html, When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE Linux 10.0 required one download of 4.5 GB
<14> RickX: don't think 4,5 GB is correct
<14> the version of suse 10.0 i downloaded had a size of 3,38 GB and it worked perfectly
<7> suse 10.0 x64 was about 3.8gb because when I burned it I even had some space to burn some nice label on it
<14> but suse 10.1 is out
<7> btw is there labelflash supported in linux, in win the only app with support i know is nero
<15> where does suse store all of the icons? I found the majority of them in usr/share/icons and /opt/kde/icons but I cannot find the icons for the trash can?
<16> Anyone know what the procedure is for making Compiz start automatically with Gnome? I have it working great in KDE on startup by using an Autostart script, but if I want to use it in Gnome I have to log into KDE first.
<6> I see that 10.1 still has no "configure k menu button" on right click :)
<14> change it
<14> ;)
<6> yeah but it would be easier if you could do it right there :)
<17> morning all
<17> I'
<17> m trying to do a yast online_update for the first time since I build this 10.1 server...
<14> oh ...
<17> aside from my local media dir as an installation source, I have suse.osuols.org/suse/update/10.1/ listed as a source, I ***ume for the 'online update'
<17> however, that repo doesn't seem to exist or respond
<17> anyone have a method or known good server I can replace this one with?
<14> you didn't run you while installation, right?
<17> saw a post on suse-linux-e that said something about using YUM to update the update sources? I'm not familliar with that.....
<18> wuddup
<14> well ...
<18> I'm having a problem ***igning 2 different nics static IPs in suse 10.1... can someone give me a hand?
<17> Hamolus: I did whatever the defaults where when I installed it, days after 10.1 release, so it hasn't had anything installed since the new patches came out
<17> is there a way to tell it to figure out sources (for online update) again?
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