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<shuffle2> what does suse have in place of pico?
<apokryphos> nano
<apokryphos> "free" version of pico
<the_dude> vim
<apokryphos> ;-)
<apokryphos> the_dude: one curious thing I always found... why exactly does suse my default have the backspace to not backspace in vim?
<apokryphos> s/my/by/
<the_dude> donno
<sarnold> apokryphos: hrm, always worked for me.. are you carrying around an odd .vimrc or TERM or termcap/terminfo files?
<apokryphos> sarnold: nope. It's pretty much always happened, clean install, and on multiple computers.
<apokryphos> installed on about 4/5 computers around here and that's always been the case
<sarnold> apokryphos: hrm, this rc3 test machine i've got here, with no .vimrc, works just fine over ssh with TERM=rxvt on an urxvt...
<apokryphos> !google suse vim backspace
<SuSEhelp> apokryphos: SuSE: [SLE] VIm backspace nonsense I've been battling with SuSE's VIm implementation since I made the switch from Red Hat some months ago. I find that in insert mode, the backspace key won't ...linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/ SuSE/2003-08..., see http://www.google.com/search?q=suse+vim+backspace
<apokryphos> sarnold: I haven't tested on a clean rc3, only 10.0
<sarnold> works also when i forward an xterm from that machine
<apokryphos> many on Google with the same problem, too
<sarnold> .. and also works local on the console. hrm.
<apokryphos> sarnold: all 10.1?
<jetscreamer> are we there yet?
<shuffle2> ...so, how do you save in vim?
<sarnold> apokryphos: yeah. my 9.3 system is far from virgin :) not a good test case...
<the_dude> worksforme
<jetscreamer> :w
<jetscreamer> shuffle2: ^
<apokryphos> heh
<sarnold> shuffle2: <esc>ZZ or <esc>:w<enter> or <esc>:wq<enter>
<apokryphos> or, as I always use, <esc>:x ..will save+exit
<shuffle2> wtf....why couldn't it be ctrl+s or something???
<apokryphos> because it's not nano :P
<t9k877> msg SuSEhelp, mirrors
<sarnold> shuffle2: because vim is based on vi, which was based on ex, which was a line-oriented text editor. the ex command to save was :w :)
<apokryphos> shuffle2: vi/vim is an awful lot more powerful once you get a couple of basics
<sarnold> no kidding, it'd take an ungodly amount of money to get me to change from vim to nano
<apokryphos> sarnold: and how much for an emacs conversion?
<sarnold> apokryphos: a few dollars less :) it'd be painful, but at least emacs _does_ have tags support, etc
<t9k877> can't wait get 10.1 final?
<apokryphos> it'll be quite a few hours still 8)
<sarnold> apokryphos: 'night, good luck
<apokryphos> thanks =)
<SouthParkFan> will opensuse 10.1 be on DVD iso's ?
<FFTL_FAN> could someone here answer a question regarding suse 10.1
<Aiwlan> heylo all, I'm having a major problem with cdrom/dvd mounting (10.1) and trying to figure out how to get suse to redo my cd drives from scratch with an automatic setup
<Aiwlan> I know it's possible because I did it before when I had the same problem - but I have no idea how
<FFTL_FAN> «Aiwlan» do you know when the offical release for 10.1 is?
<shuffle2_away> hehe
<shuffle2> !10.1
<SuSEhelp> shuffle2: Command 10.1 not found. Can't find any suggestions either.
<Aiwlan> not today. that mean I have to wait for its release before anyone'll talk to me?
<shuffle2> well anyways, its tomorrow
<Aiwlan> I wouldn't ask if I thought it was a 10.1 problem x_X
<shuffle2> i dont know anyways, sorry
<Aiwlan> I've had the same problem before, and that was 9.3 I believe
<FFTL_FAN> well i know that its tomorrow...but what time would i be able to download it..because tomorrow is my last day at school and i wanted to give it to my teacher for a gift
<Xaero_Vincent> 10.1 tommorow eh? but when will CDs arive at OSdiscs?
<shuffle2> well, the servers are likely going to be crazy busy
<FFTL_FAN> yeah but i can try
<Aiwlan> I don't even have a cdrom module in Yast2 under hardware
<FFTL_FAN> you think midnight
<shuffle2> just check the website.....
<FFTL_FAN> ive looked and it just says may 11
<shuffle2> whoo hoo nano is ON!
<shuffle2> ....maybe you should check back on the 11th, eh?
<henriquev> strange thing. . . http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/ 4th, May?
<FFTL_FAN> yeah i guess that would be a good idea...just since im in central time zone...what time zone would the site's server be in
<FFTL_FAN> probally that link is for a beta
<shuffle2> no idea....I'm eastern
<FFTL_FAN> it might not even be out til like 7am for me since suse was created in germany
<FFTL_FAN> but it might be up at 11 for me
<fatmike> hi
<fatmike> kann man schon 10.q saugen
<shuffle2> !seen frb
<SuSEhelp> shuffle2: frb said "say bye to this client, time for some VPN testing action" in #suse at Wed May 10 22:24:42 BST 2006 before quitting with message "Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)" at Wed May 10 22:26:10 BST 2006.
<shuffle2> !seen frb-work
<SuSEhelp> shuffle2: Sorry, no such luck! I don't remember seeing frb-work!
<fatmike> where can i DL suse 10.q
<fatmike> 10.1
<shuffle2> fatmike....is it the 11th in germany yet?
<fatmike> yes
<shuffle2> cool
<fatmike> but no mirroes
<fatmike> mirror has it
<shuffle2> what time is it there?
<fatmike> 04:00 am
<fatmike> where are you
<fatmike> ?
<shuffle2> PA, USA :|
<fatmike> your date is?
<shuffle2> 9:42 PM may 10th
<fatmike> dam
<fatmike> i will it
<shuffle2> ...it's probably in the process of being mirrored now.....just gotta wait a bit :)
<FFTL_FAN> «shuffle2» id give it til 2am for it to be up on some mirrors
<shuffle2> frb: i still need squid help! :/
<fatmike> fftlfan german?
<frb> I think I found a bug in pppd
<FFTL_FAN> nay
<FFTL_FAN> MO USA
<fatmike> where are the mirrors
<FFTL_FAN> where you at in germany fatmike
<fatmike> yes
<FFTL_FAN> but where in germany are you
<shuffle2> wohin komst du?
<fatmike> niedersachen
<shuffle2> :P
<fatmike> oldenburg, bremen
<fatmike> why
<fatmike> ?
<fatmike> hamburg
<fatmike> it´s in the near of hamburg
<shuffle2> keine idea....
<FFTL_FAN> i see
<FFTL_FAN> do you know the last name Ural?
<fatmike> ?
<shuffle2> anyways, im just gonna wait
<fatmike> no
<shuffle2> (and smack squid a bit)
<fatmike> my last name ist lücken
<FFTL_FAN> a big turkish german interpitor
<fatmike> do you now wehre are mirrors with 10.1
<frb> it's not released yet damnit
<shuffle2> :D
<fatmike> ok what you meen with 2 am
<FFTL_FAN> well id give it til midnight in california...because thats like the latest timezone
<fatmike> k
<shuffle2> frb: localnet doesn't work for me....did you mean localhost?
<fatmike> its 04:00 here
<frb> shuffle2: you need to use tha acl name you gave
<FFTL_FAN> yeah i know
<fatmike> and i will download it before i go to bed
<shuffle2> ?
<fatmike> where is the first mirror hehe :-P
<frb> shuffle2: I gave you 2 lines
<FFTL_FAN> well fatmike you might not be able to get it til about 8am your time
<frb> acl localnet src <net>/<mask>
<frb> http_access allow localnet
<henriquev> frb, I'm confused.... Oficially it's not released, but what about http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/ ?
<shuffle2> yeah.....i put them in and tried to restart squid, but it said fatal error....
<fatmike> what is a interpitor
<frb> shuffle: the name of the acl has to be the same in both lines
<fatmike> ok i cant wait
<shuffle2> ah....i kept in the default localhost one
<FFTL_FAN> where you have one person that speaks one language and someone else that speaks a different language and if they want to talk then they need an interpitor
<frb> shuffle2: that one can stay too
<fatmike> a translator
<FFTL_FAN> yeah
<fatmike> ok
<frb> shuffle2: localhost is defined on line 1815
<henriquev> frb, do you known?
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