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<cb400f> sPiN, Azertyuuu: no, standard install kde/gnome in english/german only requires cd1-3
<rohan> apokryphos: how many did you report ? (just curious)
<kary> Does anyone know if the retail version of 10.1 will be available today? Or is that a week from now when the opensuse dvd's come out?
<apokryphos> rohan: not sure, less than 10?
<rohan> kary: they are already available
<sPiN> cb400f: i did a default install of rc1 and it wanted cds 4 and 5 just like 10.0 did
<Old--man> apokryphos, Thanks again for that mirror, I'm almost done with all 5 cd's
<apokryphos> a few were wishes 8)
<cb400f> apokryphos: I've been offered a box too
<apokryphos> Old--man: np :)
<hatchmt> 10 seconds and my torrent download will be complete! woohoo!
<Azertyuuu> I'm a Debian user and I don't have problems finding software for it. Is this for Suse too ?
<apokryphos> cb400f: good stuff :)
<rohan> apokryphos: wow, then they mustve been the "hefty" ones ? anyway, way to go ! :)
<sPiN> !yastsources
<SuSEhelp> For more information about YaST sources and how to add them, check http://susewiki.apanela.com/goodlinks:yast_sources or http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToAddReposandSoftwarewithYastcli * Make sure to only refresh sources that will actually change, as depicted in this screenshot: http://spinink.net/images/screens/yast.jpg
<kary> rohan: i checked novell's site, and all i can find is links to purchase 10.0 not 10.1. am i looking in the wrong place?
<cb400f> apokryphos: nice surprise.. but hard to wait for about a month
<rohan> kary: wait a sec
<sPiN> Azertyuuu: it isnt hard to find packages at all
<rohan> kary: http://download.opensuse.org/index.html
<rohan> kary: has a link to Buy
<apokryphos> cb400f: yeah, I've been using current factory for a bit now, anyway
<rohan> kary: aww, sorry .. its still 10.0
<kary> rohan: yeah, but when you follow that link, it's "NOVELL SUSE Linux 10.0
<kary> ok
<Azertyuuu> "SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386 " where does the GM stand for ?
<cb400f> Azertyuuu: the package repo infrastructure won't be fully up and running for a couple of days..
<aka_druid_> !GM
<SuSEhelp> GM obviously refers to GoldMember. As some people wouldnt understand it was public released as GoldMaster by Novell. Also, could be General Motors.
<cb400f> yaloki: any clue what's going on with this gpg-signing stuff?
<BluesKai> kary, it's on the DL site http://download.opensuse.org/
<yaloki> GM refers to Gold Master
<yaloki> not goldmember lol
<Azertyuuu> so I can't download them without registring ?
<yaloki> goldfinger? ;)
<yaloki> cb400f: kindof
<kary> I BluesKai yeah, the oss one is there, but i wanted to buy the regular one
<rohan> one of the main reasons i wanna try suse is apparmor !! i saw the video of the FOSDEM conference .. it was TOO GOOD
<sPiN> rohan: got a link to that?
<cb400f> yaloki: everytime I start softwaremanagement/installation source Yast complains about lack of key.. no matter how many times I tell it "don't show this message, I trust yaloki "
<rohan> sPiN: the video ?
<yaloki> sPiN: yep, http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/FOSDEM/
<rohan> yes
<sPiN> yaloki: with the quick drw
<yaloki> sPiN: look for the one that says apparmor
<sPiN> draw even
<sPiN> cool thanks
<rohan> yaloki: you are fast :PP
<Azertyuuu> aka_druid_: I'm no Gold Member, so I'm not allowed to download suse or what ?
<yaloki> sPiN: there are a lot of other interesting talks in there btw, also the talks from the openSUSE devroom
<HighNeko> Is there some reason I can't find flash media player v8 for linux? :3
<yaloki> rohan: I know that URL off the top of my head, I'm one of the FOSDEM organizers ;)
<cb400f> HighNeko: doesn't exist
<rohan> yaloki: wow .. you do too much.. no wonder you got a cd :)
<Azertyuuu> Hey all, i have a 686 arch, what download do I need then 386 or x86-64 ?
<apokryphos> 386
<apokryphos> Azertyuuu: x86-64 is for 64-bit processors
<Azertyuuu> ok thanks
<cb400f> apokryphos: Azertyuuu can't know that.. debian user.. they don't support amd64 yet with stable ;)
<aka_druid_> oh, dear, nobody watched austin powers??
<Azertyuuu> actually Mepis user
<apokryphos> cb400f: and I don't entirely like the way 64-bit architectures are "supported" on debian/ubuntu either, really :)
<rohan> Azertyuuu: debian based one, or ubuntu one ?
<jero> hello
<rohan> apokryphos: heh, as someone said .. "All linux users having x86_64 atm can only server as test beds"
<rohan> no java, no flash .. no codecs
<Azertyuuu> rohan: debain based one at the moment, I'll rather prefer not to install beta releases
<rohan> unless you use a 32bit chroot and all that mess :s
<rohan> Azertyuuu: ah, ok
<jero> my NSS "rights" change utility is looking for users in the bad NDS tree, how can I change that ?
<yaloki> rohan: wrong, wrong, wrong
<shuffle2> are there any suse-specific instructions for tinyproxy?
<rohan> yaloki: really ?
<yaloki> rohan: java 5 has x86_64 builds, for the java plugin just use the 32bit firefox, same for flash, and as for codecs, ffmpeg can play everything except _some_ WMV9
<rohan> yaloki: link me to the w32codecs package for 64bit
<yaloki> rohan: I said ffmpeg
<apokryphos> yaloki: he was talking about debian :)
<yaloki> oooh, debian.. ok
<yaloki> debian doesn't do biarch AFAIK
<yaloki> at least ubuntu doesn't
<apokryphos> yup
<Ancient1> hi Yaloki
<rohan> yaloki: yeah, and i am talking about the mplayer ones ! and as i said, with 32bit chroot you can
<apokryphos> debian stable doesn't even support 64-bit
<rohan> oh, suse does biarch ?
<yaloki> so they're a few years behind
<yaloki> rohan: sure
<apokryphos> rohan: yup :)
<yaloki> rohan: at least since 9.3
<apokryphos> and very well
<rohan> grrr... i really gotta try it then
<Ancient1> how can i make sure Kget will resume after PC shutdown ?
<Azertyuuu> we Debian Users want Pease
<apokryphos> Ancient1: it should automatically
<Azertyuuu> Peace
<Azertyuuu> haha
<apokryphos> if not, settings > configure kget
<rohan> Azertyuuu: i agree
<rohan> i am a debian user too :PP
<rohan> tho' i use sid
<Ancient1> well , it didn't this morning :/
<Ancient1> ok
<Ancient1> .
<Azertyuuu> but i want something that is easy to use for noobs ( my family)
<Ancient1> .
<apokryphos> Ancient1: maybe it ran out of retries?
<rohan> Azertyuuu: mepis, pclos ?
<apokryphos> Ancient1: "." ?
<Ancient1> no . 4 sure
<Azertyuuu> oh please, Mepis userfriendly ? not at all ! :d
<Ancient1> nm that
<rohan> Azertyuuu: though i really mustnt talk about other distros here
<Ancient1> .
<rohan> Azertyuuu: yeah, try pclos .. and thats the last time ill mention it, to avoid being kicked ;)
<apokryphos> .......
<Ancient1> .
<apokryphos> what are you doing?
<Azertyuuu> lol
<rohan> Ancient1: wtf is wrong with you !
<Ancient1> testing vol level :D
<bo2k> i wonder why boot.iso is much bigger than mini.iso?
<Ancient1> mini.iso is for remote setup
<bo2k> Ancient1: boot.iso too
<Ancient1> oh :O
<ma|2duk> where does YaST install the programs?
<Azertyuuu> bye all, I have to learn physics for tomorow : "Electromagnetic Waves"
<bo2k> last time boot.iso had around 40mb, now it has about 80mb
<Ancient1> I'm tired, well full ..
<kaiSVK> have somebody some good fast mirror with more than 100KB/s ? :)
<Ancient1> so what is the diff betwen them ?
<bo2k> hmm, maybe this time boot.iso include installer, not only kernel?
<Ancient1> maybe rescue ?
<bo2k> i don't know, i can't find any information about it
<xnyx_> argh...
<xnyx_> my Suse installating fails with, Cannot find Image, Check the directory specification
<the_dude> mini iso is around 35M
<xnyx_> anyone know whats wrong ?
<bo2k> the_dude: i know, but what is boot.iso now?
<Ancient1> bo2k: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 MountISO
<sarnold> xnyx_: control+alt+f2, f3, etc, may have additional debugging information
<snowbird> sorta got wireless
<bo2k> Ancient1: thx but i dont need it ;-) i dont want to mount it, i want to know what is a difference beetwen mini.iso and boot.iso :-)
<xnyx_> seems like the problem is with the CD Im using to install, its not recognizing it as an installation CD
<Ancient1> bo2k: but if no one answer, this is one way to find out :)
<bo2k> Ancient1: i can check it in mc ;-)
<the_dude> maybe boot.iso contains both i386 and x86_64
<Ancient1> bo2k: mc ?
<bo2k> Ancient1: midnight commander
<Ancient1> hmm , lets see


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