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<sarnold> sPiN-: i'd believe that.
<frb-work> amarok r0xr0z
<sPiN-> they had juuuust come out, not faulting them for that or anything
<sPiN-> but i do fault them for their interface
<frb-work> mp3 players ****
<parph> I'm downloading cd3 iso, the anticipation builds
<parph> lol I knew frb would say something like that
<sPiN-> my nano is great, i love it dearly, use it every day
<frb-work> they do, mp3 is an inferiour format
<frb-work> I like my iaudio, it plays oggs
<parph> it plays music, it sounds fine, therefor it does not ****
<sPiN-> if i had any ogg's i might give a damn :P
<frb-work> ok, time to rework my network infrastructure
<frb-work> no more free IPs
<parph> I have close to 80 gigs of music collected over the years, I don't have a single oggs because noone feking uses them
<rohan> hi all
<parph> yo
<sPiN-> grr i need the wiki to wake back up... i need to make a dvd
<rohan> hi parph :)
<frb-work> don't use mp3 then complain about any non-oss software then
<apokryphos> sPiN-: google cache =)
<parph> spin do you need the instructions
<rohan> RobNyc: =))
<sPiN-> apokryphos: thats what i was working on finding
<parph> I don't use non oss software
<frb-work> you use mp3s
<sPiN-> sure ya do
<parph> yeah, and?
<apokryphos> mp3 codecs are proprietary
<rohan> parph: no mp3, flash, sun java ?
<frb-work> mp3s are encumbered by patents in most countries
<sPiN-> very much non open source
<benJIman|tov> apokryphos: there are free codecs, but there are software patent issues
<rohan> luck i am in india :P
<parph> yeah but so what, amarok is open source
<sPiN-> !whynomp3
<SuSEhelp> Novell did not include MP3 decoders/encoders in their distro because the Fraunhofer guys are greedy ***holes. $60,000 is far from reasonable, http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
<rohan> parph: so ? amarok uses xine, xine uses mp3, and mp3 aint free
<apokryphos> parph: doesn't make mp3s open source
<parph> I don't see an issue here
<benJIman|tov> there /are/ free mp3 codecs
<frb-work> you watch dvds too I bet
<sPiN-> you use non open source software.
<benJIman|tov> the issue is software patents
<rohan> parph: you dont, because you just cheat :P
<frb-work> do you have w32codecs installed?
<rohan> parph: ofcourse, mp3 decoding is free for home use, so you dont technically "cheat"
<parph> so what do you propose I do, convert my 80+ gigs of mp3's to something else?
<sPiN-> !makesusedvd
<SuSEhelp> nstructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ]
<apokryphos> this is the "prove that they don't use entirely oss game, eh" 8)
<frb-work> parph: I suggest you get off the highhorse and don't bitch about nonfree software if are going to be a hippocrite about it
<tech9iner> g'day sPiN
<rohan> parph: no, but dont say mp3 is free and all .. and ya, you could convert to ogg, but its not recomended
<aka_druid_> parph: from now on, youll try to get more oggs than mp3s
<parph> when did I bitch about anything
<tech9iner> !yast-sources
<SuSEhelp> For more information about YaST sources and how to add them, check http://susewiki.apanela.com/goodlinks:yast_sources or http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToAddReposandSoftwarewithYastcli * Make sure to only refresh sources that will actually change, as depicted in this screenshot: http://spinink.net/images/screens/yast.jpg
<parph> your making **** up
<brain79> anyone seeded a SuseDVD torrent?
<benJIman|tov> you're
<apokryphos> frb-work: come on. It's ok to advocate free software without going to the extreme position (whether it's right or wrong)
<aka_druid_> benJIman|tov: what your talking about?
<sPiN> doh...
<aka_druid_> hehe
<sPiN> howdy tech
<parph> what highhorse wtf are you talking about
<benJIman|tov> heh
<rohan> parph: bleh, just use mp3 and enjoy :P
<metav0id> can I use makesusedvd for the released ISOs?
<apokryphos> yes
<frb-work> sorry, different p nick earlier today
<apokryphos> presuming you use makesusedvd v 0.3
<parph> I'm on a "high horse" because I have an mp3 collection?
<apokryphos> parph: I do too =)
<frb-work> ponto was saying his thinkpad was "useless" because novell chose not to include atheros drivers
<sPiN> no because you said you dont use non-OSS
<rohan> parph: as i said, mp3 decoding is free, for home use. not encoding though
<metav0id> apokryphos: tnx, and where can I find it?
<rohan> sPiN: exactly !
<frb-work> and yes, you said you don't use non-OSS software
<apokryphos> metav0id: check the link that susehelp provided above.
<parph> yeah, spin, I was not considering mp3's as software
<the_dude> i have some vinyl
<apokryphos> again, that doesn't really mean they're on a "high-horse"
<sPiN> what about flash and java?
<sPiN> acrobat?
<rohan> parph: mp3 is not a software, but the stuff that decodes it, is
<metav0id> apokryphos: where? o_O
<apokryphos> !makesusedvd
<SuSEhelp> nstructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ]
<rohan> http://shots.osdir.com/ ---> no suse 10.1 :((
<apokryphos> metav0id: there =)
<sPiN> !forget makesusedvd
<SuSEhelp> OK, forgotten : makesusedvd
<apokryphos> rohan: no /. still!
<metav0id> ok
<Rodietze> Hey where do I find the entire list of SuSE 10 packages ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
<rohan> apokryphos: hehe .. true !
<parph> bbl
<rohan> apokryphos: tho' osnews and DW got it
<sPiN> too many ?'s!
<Rodietze> sPiN sorry :P
<rohan> RobNyc: wb
<benJIman|tov> Rodietze: look at a mirror, some of the pages will be updated when they're less slashdotted probably
<anacharsis> It's on slashdot -- http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/05/11/1544232.shtml
<Rodietze> thank you
<apokryphos> ahhh
<Old--man> Anyone got a private mirror of 10.1?
<sPiN> makesusedvd is <reply> Instructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ] and here is the google cache if the wiki is still down http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:XtY8TB7S8iUJ:en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&c
<tech9iner> so my new suse 10.1 mates ;]]
<rohan> Old--man: why would you want one /
<parph> Spin: go here for instructions http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=416035&group_id=146800
<rohan> sPiN: how many times !!
<apokryphos> Old--man: the heanet one is still good
<Old--man> rohan, Because the public ones are timing out.
<wad> I was messing with ssh, and somehow killed my agent. How does one restart it?
<rohan> Old--man: use torrents
<sPiN> doh
<wad> I'm getting tired of retyping my p***phrase all the time. :)
<tech9iner> interesting to see 'Yum' automagically provided as yast source after yrs of yum pckg mngt on fc..
<Old--man> torrent isn't allowed on our network. This is a business, not my home.
<benJIman|tov> 10.0 supported yum sources too
<apokryphos> Old--man: http://coroebus.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/
<tech9iner> yes found that bit out last few wks after 1+ yrs on suse9.3/10.0 lol
<yaloki> daPhoenix: eve
<tech9iner> yaloki ?.. hello ;]
<yaloki> tech9iner: yes?
<sPiN> rohan: what?
<tech9iner> hello? .. that bids a ? yaloki ?
<yaloki> tech9iner: hi
<rohan> sPiN: why are you doing !makedvd so many times !
<sPiN> i did it once... then someone else did.. then i deleted it and added google cache link
<rohan> sPiN: ah, ok
<jonah> yo guys, i'm making the dvd up and it's asking with type of key i'd like to use? any ideas?
<rohan> sPiN: easier to just blame you :P
<Old--man> Thanks apokryphos those seem to be moving fairly well. Around 400 K/s with all 5 iso's downloading
<jonah> options are dsa and elgamal, dsa (sign only) and rsa (sign only)
<apokryphos> sPiN: .....you removed the link to the appropriate version of makesusedvd
<tech9iner> so do we need the typical 10-11 sources we had available to enable / disable as needed for 10.1 now too?.. or just the inst-source and yum sources only ?
<apokryphos> sPiN: it won't work with the one quoted in the wiki
<sPiN> what do you mean? the sf app?
<brain79> WOW ...3500 peers on torrent!
<apokryphos> sPiN: yes
<mrcranky> can someone point me to any docs that show how to take the iso files for 10.1 and convert them into an install source for a network install?
<sPiN> i havent tried it yet, still downloading.. give me the right link and ill correct it
<apokryphos> sPiN: it's above, before the !forget
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