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<bnry> the dvd version they say will be available from next week
<ziro> the_dude, what areyou playing?
<BluesKai> been out taking tour s thru the Pulp/paper mill where I used to work and I just got back and been fooling eith mandriva the last few days but it ****s when it comes to conflicts...and most file transfer proggies don't work
<SpAwN> so is 10.1 officlai rls now?
<the_dude> ziro: count the #suse crazies
<the_dude> :)
<SpAwN> or is it still being yester
<SpAwN> *tested
<the_dude> its official
<i-n1> it is official indeed
<SpAwN> cool
<SpAwN> =D
<BluesKai> are the torrents available ?
<SpAwN> hello BluesKai
<sarnold> BluesKai: yeah, urls to torrents here: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-May/0003.html
<BluesKai> hi SpAwN
<BluesKai> cool, thx sa
<SpAwN> and the update has gone good for everyone else?
<BluesKai> sarnold '
<i-n1> haha
<i-nZ> xmms doesn't like my 10k mp3s
<i-nZ> :P
<SpAwN> or would it be best to do a clean install?
<SpAwN> 10k mp3's wow
<SpAwN> i got like 3000 and thought i had alot of music
<SpAwN> hehe
<i-nZ> i have a lot of sets
<daPhoenix> i-nZ: WinAmp used to crash on my collection.
<SpAwN> ahh
<BluesKai> since I have mandriva on my linux partition I guess ....clean :)
<SpAwN> hehe
<daPhoenix> i-nZ: Apparently the playlist had a 16 bit limit :)
<i-nZ> daPhoenix: :}
<SpAwN> im on mandriva atm...but also run a suse box =D
<i-nZ> lol
<i-nZ> 16bit
<i-nZ> lol
<daPhoenix> i-nZ: ie. 65536 files and.. it crashed after that.
<SpAwN> both work spectatular
<i-nZ> i know what you mean daPhoenix
<daPhoenix> :)
<i-nZ> quite a coder am I :p
<parph> Mandriva has got to be the gayest name ever for an os
<daPhoenix> i-nZ: They fixed it in 2.xx series already tho'. =]
<SpAwN> parph: nah theres gayer
<parph> lol
<SpAwN> but i liked mandrake better
<parph> it's pretty bad though
<SpAwN> the name that is
<i-nZ> never managed to get used to mandrake
<parph> I guess lindows was about as bad a name
<BluesKai> on windows right now , since do a fair amount of leeching and mandriva isn't DL utlity friendly in my experience so far
<i-nZ> despite the fact it had the easiest installation procedure for its time i just didnm't like it
<i-nZ> wget
<benJIman|tov> suse had graphical installer before mandriva iirc
<i-nZ> the best ever download tool :)
<SpAwN> BluesKai: what portocol u sing?
<VDM> 10.1 should recognize my ipod, right?
<SpAwN> *using
<sPiN-> 10.0 recognizes ipods
<VDM> though i upgraded from 10 a few days ago
<BluesKai> not a singer SpAwN , I'm a drummer :)
<SpAwN> i happen to dl alot of crap...and ive never been challengeded
<evil-doer> can i do a full update to 10.1 from within suse without downloading cds/dvds?
<VDM> thats what i remembered,.. but mine doesn't =(
<SpAwN> i meant leaching
<SpAwN> u said u leech alot
<sPiN-> vdm amarok 1.4 works very well with all ipods
<sPiN-> but it doesnt do video
<SpAwN> im waiting till there is video ipod support
<BluesKai> yup, I like utorrent on iso-hunt mostly
<VDM> sPiN-: oh, i remembered using banshee.. worked pretty well.
<skuttler> does SUSE 10.1 come with amarok 1.4?
<VDM> ty, ill try that
<SpAwN> ahh well if u want a torrent client for linux just dl azureus
<sven423> skuttler: with 1.3.8
<BluesKai> Isohunt rulez!
<sPiN-> no, amarok 1.4 is still in beta, guru packaged it though
<sven423> skuttler: 1.4 is not yet released
<SpAwN> isohunt is ok
<parph> I tried using amarok for my iriver but it didn't work. But stuff in my amarok playlist I can drag and drop into my player, because it's shown as a usb device
<SpAwN> there are better sites :P
<skuttler> i hope amarok 1.3.8 is good with ipods then
<sven423> parph: in 1.4 media device support has been rewritten and enhanced. you could give it a try
<parph> I did
<sven423> not working?
<parph> I don't know, maybe I didn't set it up right
<parph> anyhow, I don't need to set it up, I just drag and drop mp3's
<sven423> parph: go to #amarok und ask aumuell kindly for what you are doing wrong
<sPiN-> skuttler: it isnt
<sven423> there are iriver versions without ums support... this one works as ums device?
<parph> I changed the bios on my iriver to work as a generic usb device
<sven423> so it should work
<parph> because it would only work initially with windows media player 10
<sven423> yeah, taht was the reasons I didn't buy one
<parph> sven423: changing the bios is simple
<sven423> too late ;-)
<parph> the battery lasts a really long time on this player
<parph> if I don't change the music on it
<modan> how to find my kernel version ?
<i-nZ> uname -a
<parph> If I connect it with usb and start putting new songs and transferring files, that's where the battery get's really drained
<i-nZ> uname -r
<skuttler> sPiN-: :(
<modan> 2.6.13-15.8-default , but does the update includes the kernel as well ?
<modan> includes=include
<parph> hmm, I just throught of something. I have vmware installed. If I update to 10.1 with it's new linux kernel, that might break the installation of vmware
<BluesKai> is the RC3 stable ?
<apokryphos> BluesKai: GM is out, no need to use rc3
<sPiN-> skuttler: just get the 1.4 build from guru source
<parph> skuttler: don't worry about it being beta. It's plenty stable
<skuttler> sPiN-: i'll give that a go thanks as i really hate having to use gtkpod in a KDE DE
<sPiN-> if you listen to podcasts, you will need to use the svn
<skuttler> parph: cheers that is good to know
<sPiN-> gurus 1.4 beta 3 podcast support is quiet broken
<sPiN-> gtkpod is crap! it has terrible usability
<skuttler> amarok totatly rocks
<sarnold> sPiN-: really? I quite like it.
<BluesKai> SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC3_GM-x86_64.torrent..... ??
<parph> it's probably the only ipod tool available at the moment
<skuttler> i agree sPiN- but it is the only software i've found that works with my ipod perfectly
<sPiN-> 1.4 amarok :) it uses the libgpod library that the gtkpod guys spunoff from their project
<parph> bleh, I was spraying insect repellant on this tree in my back yard, and the wind blew it all over my face. I hope I don't die
<sPiN-> sarnold: it doesnt handle selections properly, but neither does itunes
<sarnold> sPiN-: "selections"?
<sPiN-> last i used it there was no drag drop either, the entire interface is clunky and poorly done
<sPiN-> sarnold: shfit and ctrl click selections
<parph> the lesson is, don't get ipods if you use linux
<VDM> my whole system doenst see me ipod :(
<sarnold> sPiN-: hrm. i'll have to give it a shot next time i try
<VDM> not even listed as an usb device with lsusb
<sarnold> parph: no kidding, sbp/firewire support is _SO_ flaky....
<sarnold> parph: i wound up having to reboot both my laptop _and_ my ipod last night before they would talk with each other. :-/
<parph> generic usb devices are the best
<sPiN-> parph: amarok works beautifully with them, and is mucccch better than itunes in my book
<parph> I've never seen itunes
<sarnold> itunes ate my database.
<sPiN-> itunes also has broken multi selection which makes it take for ****ing ever to load up 4GB of tunes
<parph> ah it ****s then
<sPiN-> sarnold: back in nov. gtkpod and amarok did that to me left and right!
<sarnold> sPiN-: really? ugh. gtkpod's always been rock solid for me. not always the prettiest of interfaces :) but it gets the job done for me...
<Old--man> This is probably the most asked question of the day, but anyone know where there is a mirror that will give me decent speed?
<parph> I remember when mp3 players first came out. I remember thinking man I can't wait till these things become popular
<sarnold> sPiN-: any idea what went wrong with gtkpod when it ate your DB?
<VDM> Im sure the music vendors like their idea.. but id rather just drag my songs into a mounted drive then using itunes with that horrable usabilaty
<sPiN-> sarnold: i was using a nano, and gtkpod had **** support for them at the time
<sarnold> sPiN-: oh :)
<sarnold> sPiN-: i'd believe that.
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