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<daPhoenix> *coughbull****cough*
<sarnold> MORA: the only piece of hardware i used that required non-oss drivers was a matrox g400
<parph> I was telling her, let me install linux first before you waste money on new hardware
<MORA> well maybe some of the chips on mobo I dont choose
<sarnold> MORA: and that was a choice ;) to run dual-head
<MORA> oh, thought you meant drivers from the distributor
<parph> she is reluctand, because she asked many people on irc and there all like well linux is not user friendly, and hard to use
<cenuij> Hhhhh: yes it's great, my opinion is SUSE us the best engineered linux available, but then this is #suse :P try it for yourself, i think you'll like it
<sPiN-> if someone sets everything up for you it isnt hard to use
<parph> everyone must think you still need the command line in linux, lol
<Hhhhh> any issues I should be aware of?
<sPiN-> my 78 year old grandfather has been running suse for over a year now and loves it
<Hhhhh> sPiN-, awesome
<sPiN-> and ive switched 4 of my friends, 2 of which are not techie's
<sarnold> sPiN-: sweet :)
<frb-work> Hhhhh: suse10.1 ****s, they don't ship any non-free software, so it's automatically crap
<parph> yeah I try to tell her that spin but then she's like well david (a knowledgeable computer friend) couldn't learn it, and went back to windows, what chance do I have
<sarnold> parph: different people like different tools
<Hendikins> benJIman|tov: ...and note that I'm not specifically bitching at/about any one group :-)
<sarnold> parph: i'd have a hard time converting to windows ;)
<Hendikins> Everyone would need to do their part to sort the mess out.
<parph> it's a pity to waste money for nothing, when you can just install linux
<mort_> hi
<mort_> does makesusedvd support adding the contents of the non-oss cd?
<Hendikins> mort_: I'm about to find out, heh
<Hhhhh> frb-work, I thought there were gonna have an evaluation and a OSS version?
<parph> it's not like this girl has tonnes of money to waste
<sPiN-> parph: tell her that that was then and this is now, and you are going to set it all up for her so she wont have to worry about any of that... she can just play games, use OOo and FF and Thunderbird and not have to worry about it
<arabian> hello
<arabian> I am going to download suse 10.1 final
<arabian> from this link http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/
<frb-work> Hi, I'm going to use the bathroom
<sarnold> Hhhhh: frb-work's being a bit sarcastic ;)
<Hendikins> mort_: I generated a CD including the non-OSS stuff with it, I'm about to see if it works.
<sarnold> Hhhhh: there's a CD image on non-OSS stuff available for download
<arabian> but what does GM mean ?
<parph> she doesn't care about games
<sarnold> arabian: "gold master"
<frb-work> Gerbil M***acre
<Hhhhh> sarnold, I imagined
<cenuij> sarnold: lies! its GoldMember!
<arabian> what does gold master mean ?
<parph> 90% of what she does is browse websites, write essays and listen to mp3's, she also wants to listen to RSS feeds
<cenuij> we have sharks!
<arabian> :(
<cenuij> with laser guns!
<frb-work> Goat Mating! Gruesome Murders!
<Hhhhh> sarnold, so no evaluation version? 10.1 is all OSS now?
<Hendikins> arabian: final.
<sarnold> Hhhhh: i'm not sure about the evaulation version; it always confused me in the past :)
<sPiN-> Hhhhh: novell hasnt released it yet
<frb-work> Gangrenous Meat!
<arabian> thanks
<superniemand> !eval
<SuSEhelp> The eval Suse is not time or otherwise limited in any way. For a list of commercial packages see <http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16015.html>;
<sarnold> sPiN-: why, if I may ask?
<frb-work> anyone want a thinkpad wireless card that uses the prism2.5 chipset?
<Hendikins> sPiN-: Not applicable in 10.1
<frb-work> you can have it for free
<Hhhhh> SuSEhelp, I know, I've been using SUSE for a while. I was just wondering about 10.1 final
<Hhhhh> I mean, ack
<parph> I remember though once when I was fixing my friends winxp installation, I popped in the suse 9.3 cd in to see if it works, and the graphics were all messed up in the installation program. like the resolution was wrong, I wonder if 10.1 will work on it now
<Hhhhh> I meanmt superniemand
<sPiN-> Hendikins: why is that?
<frb-work> why free? it doesn't do WPA, only WEP
<frb-work> sPiN-: there is Suse Linux, and an Addon CD
<daPhoenix> frb: You don't need any encryption.. :P
<Hendikins> sPiN-: Because the commercial and free versions are the same.
<frb-work> sPiN-: no EVAL with non-free stuff included
<sPiN-> ohhh....
<Hendikins> sPiN-: There will be a DVD, but it won't appear just yet.
<frb-work> daPhoenix: I bought an atheros based card, one of these people who are bitching about non-free drivers for their thinkpad can have this, and shut the hell up :)
<Hhhhh> so no DVD iso image for 10.1yet?
<daPhoenix> frb-work :D
<sPiN-> i used that non-oss dvd for the rc, but i didnt realize novell wasnt going to bundle it
<Hendikins> No, not yet. Make your own if you need it un a hurry.
<Hhhhh> heh, I never make my own stuff
<Farhad> Congratulate, for suse 10.1
<twosouls82> suse, I love you :D
<sarnold> twosouls82: suse loves you too :)
<twosouls82> yeah :P
<Ancient1> (O)
<frb-work> my god firefox 1.5.0.3 is slow
<Hhhhh> firefox is nice and cool but slow
<Ancient1> its slow because you are downloading 10.1 ;-)
<twosouls82> lol :D
<frb> no, you id10t, firefox is slow because it uses gtk2
<frb> if I wanted to say the connection was slow, or that my internet is loaded, I'd say so
<twosouls82> frb, firefox-qt will stay gossip only, I guess
<i-nZ> no it is not slow because it uses gtk+
<frb> konqueror is fast, firefox in vmware is fast, safari on the mac is fast, IE Is fast
<frb> firefox on linux is slower than OOo
<cytrak> how do I set the amdin p***word for cups ?
<Ancient1> frb, don't talk to me like that , u vain us ignorant
<i-nZ> they are still working on cairo/pango i guess
<Ancient1> US.A
<i-nZ> the firefox guys
<i-nZ> who knows
<padesig> Hi all, anybody know if is there an rpm for Suse 10.0 for the subversion (svn) server? If there is, where can I find it? I need of the rpm for mod_dav_svn, too.
<frb-work> padesig: it's all in suse
<frb-work> !pin mod_dav_svn
<SuSEhelp> frb-work: /suse/i586/subversion-devel-1.2.3-2.i586.rpm See http://hitme.resetbutton.de/cgi-bin/pintest.pl?searchstring=mod_dav_svn&version=10.0d_i386&type=cd&dl=ftp
<frb-work> !pin subversion-server
<SuSEhelp> frb-work: /suse/i586/subversion-server-1.2.3-2.i586.rpm-> See http://hitme.resetbutton.de/cgi-bin/pintest.pl?searchstring=subversion-server&version=10.0d_i386&type=cd&dl=ftp
<Hendikins> mort_: seems to be a thumbs up on using makeSUSEdvd with the non-oss CD included
<sPiN-> ohh man.. if i fresh install the desktop ill have to reinstall mythtv.. and that was a total PITA
<Phati> can i install a 64bit system on my pentium d 930 system?
<twosouls82> Hendikins, DVD6 worked like acharm (even have my own rpms on it)
<twosouls82> when I try to configure auto update in 10.1, I get a "No products to register" error. I did a clean install :s
<the_dude> moin ohgood
<the_dude> welcome to the jungle
<ohgood> lo the_dude
<ohgood> got fun n games ?
<the_dude> release day
<ohgood> woohoo!
<frb> in a half hour, I'll have CD1!
<twosouls82> does anyone have 10.1 installed? and could he/she try to configure auto updates?
<sPiN-> grrr kget seems broken on the desktop
<sPiN-> i cant get it to stop downloading everything at once and the limit is set to 1
<sPiN-> yep... crashed
<frb> wow, a jamaican remix of an 80s rock song
<sPiN-> restarted it, now it is working better
<frb> I'll go tell the other 4 cds to download this evening, when no one is at the office
<frb> heanet is quicktastic
<Ancient1> frb: knew u'r a retard .. jamaican bah. stop smoking !
<Ghostbuster_> is there any sources out for 10.1 ?
<sPiN-> ftp://coroebus.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source
<Ancient1> http://bong.uwcs.co.uk/mirror/suse/10.1/iso/
<Ancient1> oops..
<RobNyc> whos downloading the dvd from torrent?
<sarnold> RobNyc: i don't think the dvd will be released for another week
<frb> yes, please, use torrent, leave the fast mirrors for the rest of us
<Ghostbuster_> iam buying 10.1 not downloading this one
<RobNyc> sarnold, so whats that on distrowatch
<frb> I will get us to buy it too
<sarnold> RobNyc: i haven't got a clue ;) i'm not in charge of distrowatch... all i know i read from this: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-May/0003.html
<sarnold> frb-work: call up your credit card company and mention to them that you've tried to get AOL to stop billing you in good faith, and that you'd like to start the procedure to forbid them from making further credits against your account
<frb> I'm trying AOL first
<benJIman|tov> yeah credit card company / bank is often the best way
<benJIman|tov> same when trying to get paypal to be reasonable
<Chamuco> I made a permanent link to a network drive but everytime I open it's asking me for my User/pasword is there a way to make it mount every time without having to use input user&p***wd


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