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<benJIman|tov> heanet is one of the fastest mirrors in the world
<benJIman|tov> http://coroebus.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/
<jonah> has the dvd arrived yet?
<parph> ok I will try that
<cenuij> screw the torrent, delta iso's for the win!
<frb> do they have deltas from 10.0->10.1?
<benJIman|tov> frb: doubt they'd be useful, too muchchanged
<cenuij> mmm not sure actually i went from RC3 -> GM
<SpooForBrains> ok. I have three partitions. hda1 is FAT16, hda2 is swap and hda3 is ResierFS ... should the bootloader be on partition 3?
<benJIman|tov> I get ~5mb/s off the above heanet mirror btw
<frb> SpooForBrains: root (hd0,2)
<SpooForBrains> frb: yeah, thanks, worked that out
<SpooForBrains> when I do an fdisk -l, the FAT16 partition has an asterisk next to it in the boot column
<frb> ignore that
<SpooForBrains> oh ok
<frb> SpooForBrains: root (hd0,2) [enter] setup [enter]
<parph> gotta get an ftp client
<sPiN> benJIman|tov: their non-oss instlsource is incomplete
<frb> heanet is hella fast
<SpooForBrains> ok, have typed root (hd0,2) then setup
<frb> SpooForBrains: no errors?
<SpooForBrains> I get "Error 11: Unrecognised device string"
<benJIman|tov> http://coroebus.heanet.ie/ notice their bandwidth
<parph> oh, only the cd iso's are out
<frb> SpooForBrains: after setup?
<SpooForBrains> yes
<benJIman|tov> sPiN: hmm I can put the non-oss instsource on bong
<frb> SpooForBrains: your grub configuration (menu.lst) is broken, mount your drive and fix it
<parph> do any of the mirrors have the dvd?
<sPiN> bong?
<kaiSVK> this mirror benJIman|tov wrote is nice ... about 100 KB/s per iso
<sPiN> parph: no
<benJIman|tov> kaiSVK: heanet should max out whatever bandwidth you have
<sPiN> kaiSVK: dont download them all at once... that is silly
<parph> err, ***
<SpooForBrains> him, this is really farked, there's nothing in /boot
<parph> can you burn cd iso's onto a dvd
<kaiSVK> sPiN, I am downloading the firs two
<SpooForBrains> this happened after the first stage of the installation, when it reboots. It didn't boot from that point on, never got to teh second part of the setup
<kaiSVK> then two and then the fifth
<parph> I don't have cdr media
<kaiSVK> parph, me too :D
<frb> SpooForBrains: after it reboots the first time, you're supposed to boot the CD again so it can continue
<lovelyx> yeah 10.1 is out
<parph> yea
<snowbird> wireless has me stumpted
<kaiSVK> parph, but I have DVD so I am impressed with the idea of creating DVD
<frb> someone should fix the topic
<kaiSVK> !topic
<benJIman|tov> there's noone here with ops
<kaiSVK> :DDD
<snowbird> hey suse help
<the_dude> what do you want the topic to be?
<apokryphos> the_dude: eh? :)
<frb> I need a disktop
<apokryphos> ah :)
<benJIman|tov> sPiN: if you can find me somewhere to rsync from i'll put it on bong.uwcs.co.uk
<apokryphos> the_dude: 10.1 announcement
<frb> the_dude: it says 10.1 tomorrow
<sPiN> benJIman|tov: the one on ftp.gwdg.de is incomplete as well...
<lovelyx> when did it came out?
<apokryphos> http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-May/0001.html
<frb-work> lovelyx: this morning
<lovelyx> oh nice
<apokryphos> or http://tinyurl.com/pfj4b
<jonah> does anyone know why there is no dvd yet?
<ExitMenu> lo does anyone konw how to turn off ipv6 in suse as its giving me problems with jboss
<apokryphos> jonah: servers aren't too attracted by the extra hd/bandwidth they'd take
<cenuij> yes, because a dvd hammers the mirrors even worse than the CD's on release, there will be no DVD until next week
<apokryphos> gah, wrong opensuse-announcement link there
<benJIman|tov> cenuij: actually dvd hammers less than cds
<benJIman|tov> big files better than small files
<sPiN> jonah: because you touch yourself at night!
<apokryphos> http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-May/0003.html there
<frb-work> idiots download all 5 CDs at once
<snowbird> id check sum dvd cause hole awaste it
<frb-work> instead of just one dvd
<jonah> sPiN: hey what's that gotta do with it!! hehe
<sPiN> the truth hurts...
<the_dude> ok?
<cenuij> benJIman|tov: true but suppose it's better to synch smaller chunks than larger ones...
<apokryphos> the_dude: that was the wrong link, sorry :/
<parph> for 10.0 someone created a script to combine the 5 cd's into a dvd iso
<apokryphos> the_dude: one sec
<apokryphos> the_dude: http://tinyurl.com/gkc9y
<frb-work> !makesusedvd
<SuSEhelp> nstructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ]
<apokryphos> =)
<the_dude> satisfied?
<parph> nice
<parph> lol
<parph> thanks frb
<lovelyx> does makesusdvd works for 10.1?
<jonah> will the make a suse dvd utility work with this new release though?
<apokryphos> lovelyx: v 0.3 will
<benJIman|tov> !makesusedvd
<SuSEhelp> nstructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ]
<sarnold> frb-work: does it really matter if someone downloads 5 700 meg ISOs or one 7.9 gig ISO?
<cenuij> lovelyx: yes version 0.30 does, its in that URL
<frb-work> sarnold: that's 5 simultaneous connections vs 1
<apokryphos> sarnold: 7.9 gigs is an awful lot more than 5 cds :P
<parph> lol, the suse wiki is overloaded
<sarnold> frb-work: true
<fsu> Hi! I got grub working. problem was that /boot/grub/ -files was different than /usr/lib/grub/ -files.
<kaiSVK> can anonymous user discover how much disk space is on the FTP server ? :) I think no ...
<fsu> Now I have other problem. How can I get zmd working?
<kaiSVK> what is the command to see free/used disk space in terminal
<lovelyx> ill start making the backups
<cenuij> fsu: rczmd start
<parph> so far around 250k download from this mirror benjiman, pretty nice
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: df -h
<fsu> it's starts nicely, but when I type: rczmd status, it says it's dead
<parph> has anyone installed 10.1 final yet
<anacharsis> Is there an Eval and an Open version of 10.1, or just one version?
<benJIman|tov> anacharsis: just one version, with an extra addoncd if you want non-free stuff
<parph> just one
<cenuij> fsu: check the logs /var/log/zmd-*.log
<anacharsis> benJIman|tov, thanks
<parph> this is better, suse 10 was confusing everyone
<parph> with eval and non eval versions
<jonah> what's this: SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386-mini.iso
<jonah> ?
<i-nZ> guess a mini cd for a netboot?
<cenuij> thats a mini iso! ;)
<kaiSVK> benJIman|tov, I have been just thinking .... does one need add on packages ? Adobe Acrobat Reader, RealPlayer can be replaced easily with OSS packages ...
<i-nZ> actually is just the kernel and initrd required for a net install ?
<jonah> ok so i don't need it?
<jonah> ok thanks
<i-nZ> jonah: no u don't
<cenuij> kaiSVK: have you tried running java apps with gnu java?
<kaiSVK> cenuij, never ...
<cenuij> kaiSVK: dont :P
<lovelyx> can the non-free stuff be downloaded later fro the ftp?
<cenuij> kaiSVK: thats why you want non oss stuff ;)
<apokryphos> yes
<i-nZ> flash and java
<kaiSVK> cenuji, but couldnt be Java runtime downloaded somewhere from Sun pages for free ? :)
<i-nZ> the only 2 things i can think of
<wad> I'm using port forwarding to connect to my linux box at home from my linux box at work, so I can run thunderbird for my home email (proxy here at work won't let ports 993 and 25 through). Problem: The VPN/firewall at work drops the connections after a period of inactivity. Is there a known good way of keeping these alive?
<i-nZ> actually as far as I heard sun is changing the licence of the runtime i think
<frb-work> wad: one minute
<wad> :)
<fsu> http://pastebin.com/711711
<cenuij> kaiSVK: yeah but the spec file in the sun rpm might put files in strange places
<kaiSVK> i-nZ, I heard too ... change to some "semi-opensource" ;)
<i-nZ> just a licence to allow easier distribution i read
<i-nZ> right, so is the ipw2200 firmware on the cd?
<frb-work> wad: as root, echo 600 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time
<Tourinho> hello there.. is there a web site were I can found information about enterprises using suse and some statistics data? its for a research, thanks :)
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