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<snowbird> suse help
<sPiN> i would not suggest doing a net install now... it would be waaaay slow, most mirrors dont even have it yet
<wasynyt> i have the all 6 cd but i want to do network install
<wasynyt> i have only 2 cdrw on my hand
<hussam> wickers: I already said rsync, I'm asking for syntax
<wickers> man rsync
<Hendikins> wasynyt: Generate a DVD?
<hussam> gwdg is a rsync mirror?
<wasynyt> hmm i dont have system to do that :(
<Hendikins> or mount the ISOs loopback and set up your own LAN install source.
<wasynyt> hmm on windows machine ?
<Hendikins> or pull the data out of the ISOs, keeping the directory structure, and create a share.
<wasynyt> :S
<wasynyt> looks like i have to play with those cd's because i dont know how to make a share (i havent ever ripped any isos appart in windows)
<sPiN> soo someone msg me when novell puts out their suse 10.1 release and i can get the x86_64 dvd
<inositle> so can I just replace my 10.0 .../inst-source/ installation source with the .../SL-10.1/inst-source and do an update on everything?
<kaiSVK> so it has begun . . .
<frb-work> inositle: you don't want to do that
<kaiSVK> people are crazy and mad downloading :/
<frb-work> !upgrade
<SuSEhelp> To upgrade to 10.0 from any older version with little or no problems, please use a CD/DVD set or ask me about ftpinstall.
<frb-work> SuSEhelp: forget upgrade
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: torrent =)
<frb> SuSEhelp: forget upgrade
<SuSEhelp> OK, forgotten : upgrade
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, I would gladly use torrent link but konqi dont want to even open it :" connection times out ...
<frb> SuSEhelp: upgrade is <reply> To upgrade to a newer Suse from an older version with little or no problems, use a CD/DVD set and choose "Update" at the menu, or ask about 'ftpinstall'.
<SuSEhelp> frb: Remembering upgrade..
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: works here... hm, which one do you want?
<kaiSVK> aaaa ... it works for me now too ...
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, strange ...
<kaiSVK> couldnt even open the link to torrent ...
<apokryphos> =)
<hashman> I think I'm the only one happy with 10.0, with all the patches and a lot of rpms installed from SuSE guru and packman. I don't think to update my system in the next month, at least
<frb-work> I guess it's good that so many people are so excited that 10.1 out, but can you tell me why you have to have it TODAY and not next week?
<frb-work> if Suse is so good, go buy it damnit
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, what the hell started downloading 6.6 KB/s :{
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: the torrent file, or the torrent download?
<frb-work> kaiSVK: looks like a normal torrent to me
<hashman> frb-work, I have 10.0, I don't think on 10.1 yet, and I bougth my 10.0
<frb-work> I have a 10.1 factory install on my laptop
<kaiSVK> frb-work, we are just little bigger children :D
<SpooForBrains> What's the easiest way of repairing GRUB on a machine that won't boot?
<frb-work> I'll get the DVD later
<SpooForBrains> can I do it from the repair console and if so, how?
<frb-work> !fixboot
<SuSEhelp> boot the install CD, select installation, when you see this screen: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=464&slide=5, select 'Other' then click 'repair installed system', then choose either automatic or expert tools and use the boot loader module to re-install grub
<SpooForBrains> oh ok
<SpooForBrains> is there a way of doing it from the command line repair tool? (booting the installer takes a while)
<SpooForBrains> and I'm feeling l33t today :)
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: yes
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: can you get to grub at all?
<SpooForBrains> no
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, link for OSS cds still doesnt work
<frb-work> ok, can you get to linux at all?
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: the torrent or the file?
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: when in a linux cmdprompt, run "grub"
<kaiSVK> torrent
<kaiSVK> still connection times out
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: then at the grub> prompt, type 'root (hd0,0)' or whatever your root device is, then 'setup'
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: so you can't get the torrent?
<inositle> I can't find a link to a dvd version, is it easy to convert the cd images to one dvd? I hate having 5cds around
<SpooForBrains> frb-work: the bootable CD has a command line rescue thing, that would be what I would be using
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, yes ... timed out on server
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: this ***umes your menu.lst file is valid
<frb-work> SpooForBrains: note, this is not from a chroot or anything like that, just from the rescue linux shell
<kaiSVK> inositle, thats right question I would like to ask when will DVD be out ?
<frb-work> !search dvd
<SuSEhelp> Matching factoids: ftp dvd; playdvd; dvd; cd_dvd_diff; dvd10; livedvd; libdvdcss; cdtodvd; makesusedvd;
<sPiN> no DVD for yOU!
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, finally its working ...
<frb-work> !makesusedvd
<chrisag> it's the bain of existance.
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, cant the server be just overloaded ?
<SuSEhelp> Instructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319&release_id=360607 ]
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: it is, yes.
<apokryphos> frb-work: apparently only 0.3 of makesusedvd will work
<apokryphos> though, I can't see it
<kaiSVK> so I can make DVD too ? is it difficult ?
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: very easy
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, so why didnt they created for the today release ?
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: would overload the servers 8)
<apokryphos> mirrors wouldn't like such a great about of hd/bandwidth being taken
<cenuij> apokryphos: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, they would have been overloaded anyway
<cenuij> frb-work: could you update the makesusedvd factoid pls dude?
<apokryphos> cenuij: gah, was on a different sf.net link
<kaiSVK> apokryphos, so the made DVD will be same as the official DVD iso ?
<frb-work> I can't
<frb> I can
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: nope
<frb> SuSEhelp: forget makesusedvd
<cenuij> aight :)
<SuSEhelp> OK, forgotten : makesusedvd
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: there's an eval (evaluation) dvd, and there's a retail dvd
<kaiSVK> I know ...
<apokryphos> kaiSVK: eval is the same, or so, as makesusedvd will give you (providing you take in the non-oss cd too), and the retail is dual-layer
<frb> SuSEhelp: makesusedvd is <reply>nstructions for making a dvd from CD ISO's are here:- [ http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs ] You can find the most recent version of the makeSUSEdvd utility here [ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=146800&package_id=163319 ]
<sPiN> eval dvd is still not out.. and novell hasnt updated their site for 10.1 yet
<SuSEhelp> frb: Remembering makesusedvd..
<apokryphos> yup
<kaiSVK> so it will be the same ;)
<sPiN> no it wont be the same
<kaiSVK> I knew the diff between eval and OSS and retail media ...
<kaiSVK> sPiN, why
<sPiN> hrmmm... they have created a non-oss-instsource now
<chrisag> frb: the opensuse wiki isn't working because of the overload
<parph> hello duders
<apokryphos> chrisag: use google cache
<frb> oh well
<frb> too many retards want the CDs NOW!@!#@!#!@
<chrisag> apokryphos: I could care less, just if something is pointed to it...
<SpooForBrains> frb-work: I'm at the GRUB prompt
<chrisag> lol
<sPiN> OSSDVD != eval dvd
<chrisag> frb: does that make you one of them ;)
<SpooForBrains> I typed root(hd0,0) asnd got Error 27: Unrecognised Command
<benJIman|tov> the mirrors are coping fine
<apokryphos> sPiN: yes, as we said above, including the non-oss cd
<frb> SpooForBrains: you forgot the space
<benJIman|tov> far better than at 10.0 release
<frb> SpooForBrains: and that's only valid if /dev/hda1 is your root drive
<apokryphos> benJIman|tov: no /. yet =)
<SpooForBrains> filesystem is fat ... doesn't look right
<frb> chrisag: nope, I'm going to wait a few days
<the_dude> benJIman|tov: not really
<kaiSVK> so slow download ... even the torrent :{
<the_dude> not in the us
<parph> anyone got the url for the torrent dvd
<benJIman|tov> kaiSVK: then don't use the torrent
<benJIman|tov> torrent is bound to be slow
<benJIman|tov> use a mirror
<kaiSVK> try it ... but torrent should be faster or no ?
<benJIman|tov> no torrent will always be slower
<sPiN> so it begins...
<frb> lets see, college with 512M pipe vs 100 users with 2M pipes
<benJIman|tov> consumer upload speeds ****, the mirrors are mostly on acadamic networks with multi-gigabit connections and servers with dozens of gigabytes of ram
<parph> the mirrors are probably hammered though
<frb> oh wait, I forgot, dsl ****s ***
<benJIman|tov> parph: there are lots of mirrors
<frb> 1000 users with 128k upload pipes
<benJIman|tov> heanet has the isos now
<parph> which one should I use benjiman
<frb> mirrors for the win
<benJIman|tov> heanet is one of the fastest mirrors in the world


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