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<matze2006> hmm
<yaloki> but you won't get that much with any ISP
<hensema> however, my copper pair is just 160 metres
<matze2006> i hope i can use my dsl2k the next 2 years ^^
<sarnold> hensema: holy cow, that's crazy
<bill-barriere> yaloki, divide that by 10 usually ?
<yaloki> bill-barriere: currently here in belgium it's heaviliy limited to 9mbit down, 1mbit up, AFAICR
<bill-barriere> :/
<yaloki> theoretical limit is 50 mbit down and 24 mbit up, so I guess the effective limit will be around 40 down and 18 up or something
<yaloki> but I don't think any ISP will give you that bandwidth
<bill-barriere> i get arround only 60k upload ...on a 10mbit cable
<sarnold> yaloki: oh i'm sure they'll _sell_ it to you :) just at ratios of 150:1 or something :)
<hensema> ouch
<yaloki> sarnold: ;)
<bill-barriere> well more than that in reallity but single connection are throtlled
<hensema> here in holland the overbooking of dsl lines usually is 1:25 or 1:40
<bill-barriere> get about 300k total upload width or something
<bill-barriere> but download get to 1000k and up
<bill-barriere> those bastard
<fatmike> hi
<fatmike> wo kann ich 10.1 schon laden?
<matze2006> na wenn ich das wüsste, wäre mir geholfen
<hensema> as far as I know the official release is tomorrow
<matze2006> die wird erst morgen veröffnetlicht
<hensema> but after tomorrow the mirrors probably have to be synchronized
<matze2006> und selbst dann werden die server hammerdicht dein.
<fatmike> hm
<fatmike> müsste das nicht schon in den staaten raus sein
<matze2006> du wirst ca mit 2 byte pro sekunde laden können wenn das release draußen ist.
<matze2006> nein.
<matze2006> das geht nach gmt
<matze2006> wenn du weist wo der hauotsitz von suse ist, und die zeitzone weist, weist du wann es zu haben ist.
<matze2006> suse linux ist ein produkt aus nürnberg
<madferret> english, english
<matze2006> heist ja nicht umsonst nürnberger windows
<matze2006> if you know where suse was created, you know the gmt
<matze2006> suse linux is german production. because of that it calls nuernberger windows
<matze2006> alle deutschen nach #suse.de
<matze2006> all german to #suse.de
<yaloki> matze2006: there's already #opensuse-de btw
<sarnold> yaloki: do they have the same "support in #suse.de" mantra? :)
<yaloki> sarnold: they have a "discuss anything because we're just a dozen ppl in there" mantra
<_oXo_> what is Xen
<sarnold> yaloki: hehehe :0
<sarnold> :)
<sarnold> _oXo_: xen is a 'virtualisation' technology
<bill-barriere> its half-life alien world
<jpilot> hi
<sarnold> _oXo_: sort of like vmware, but rather than run "unmodified guests", it runs "modified guests" -- it is like an x86 architecture, but with the difficult-to-emulate instructions replaced.
<tjb891> everyone is always telling me were to find packages for SUSE, si there any search engine for them or any central place to find them
<jpilot> kann man ab 12 10.1 laden?
<tjb891> tommorow i think
<yaloki> tjb891: http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
<tjb891> thx
<frb-work> !pin php_gtk
<SuSEhelp> frb-work: No Results Found
<frb-work> bother
<madferret> !pin php-gtk
<SuSEhelp> madferret: No Results Found
<madferret> right
<[Dameon]> Yp guys
<[Dameon]> Yo*
<i-nZ> php and gtk+ ?
<i-nZ> heh
<i-nZ> no way
<bill-barriere> i never seen tha php gtk thingy in suse
<sarnold> nabend [Dameon]
<benJIman|tov> why would you want to use php gtk?
<benJIman|tov> then again some people use python
<bill-barriere> didnt even knew it existed before you guy talked about it the othetr day
<i-nZ> but php... and gkt+ ?
<i-nZ> it just sounds wrong
<frb-work> because pptpconfig is written in php-pcntl-gtk
<bill-barriere> doesnt it :P
<i-nZ> as in php has nothing to do with a widget library....
<i-nZ> a widget library that has nothing to do with browsers and web servers / web services etc etc
<madferret> [Dameon]: you told someone to rm -rf in here right?
<benJIman|tov> people like using completely unsuitable languages for gui development like python and php
<bill-barriere> jvs have nothing todo with browser then ?
<i-nZ> jvs stands for ?
<i-nZ> javascript ?
<i-nZ> but what I mean is
<bill-barriere> yes just another way to execute crap on the client pc
<i-nZ> GTK+ has nothing to do with client/server
<parph> does anyone know anything about amule
<parph> I just installed it
<madferret> fscker
<madferret> good thing he left
<parph> I'm connecting to servers but nothing is downloading, or going super slow
<madferret> so I didnt ahve to kick his *** out
<bill-barriere> i-nZ, .. gtk wont be running on the server box ?
<bill-barriere> just a way to get some web server to use gtk widget on client pc
<bill-barriere> then to me its just like using jvs ... you use client cpu to run thingy and not a jsp that would run on server
<i-nZ> but you need something which will recognize that the server is sending gtk+ "commands"
<tjb891> ok, so if i have a standard rpm, that is not in YAST, can I use the installation_sources command to make it a installation source in yast?
<i-nZ> a client which will know what the server is sending that is
<bill-barriere> of course
<i-nZ> well... is there such a thing yet?
<i-nZ> for gtk+ :)
<tjb891> ok, and if that rpm is on my local machine is it still the -a or does it turn to -e
<bill-barriere> i-nZ, surwe there is
<i-nZ> bill-barriere: link link ? :))
<bill-barriere> http://gtk.php.net/
<sPiN> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/merlefest2006/ haha those are my pics :) the waybacks posted them to their flickr page
<i-nZ> time for bug reports
<i-nZ> *yawns
<frb-work> anyone setup pptp client on suse?
<bill-barriere> frb-work, isnt thwere something in yast to set that up ?
<frb-work> theoretically, the dsl setup can do it, but I failed miserably there
<bill-barriere> it need to have a ssl certificate and stuff before the wizard complete
<frb-work> this is pptp, not openvpn
<i-nZ> ne idea where will suse 10.1 get available first?
<_jon> On the Suse 10.1 (or 10.0) installation CD, what are the setting for loading under the option 'rescue system' ?
<i-nZ> is it actually available already :)
<bill-barriere> frb-work, err sorry am too noob then taugh pptp connection were like vpn. same but without ssl ?
<frb-work> goddamn
<frb-work> LCP terminated by peer (peer refused to authenticate)
<_jon> or, if I boot into linux, how can i see what kernel flags etc were p***ed?
<bill-barriere> :|
<_jon> i.e. noacpi etc
<sarnold> _jon: /proc/cmdline
<snowbird> hey
<frb-work> yeah, that's the one
<_jon> sarnold: thanks
<frb-work> peer refused to authenticate
<frb-work> if I ever get my hands on peer, I'll cut his balls off and feed them to him, all those connections he closes, and now refusing to authenticate
<bill-barriere> :P
<Nomad411> So..? When is 10.2 coming out? :D
<bill-barriere> before vista
<bill-barriere> :P
<Nomad411> lol
<Nomad411> That,s 10.9
<osubuck> Hi, will suse 10.1 have a dvd iso available for download?
<VeryBadGuy> hi all
<VeryBadGuy> does anyone knows how to change the installation program on suse 10.0 oss?
<jpilot> hi
<frb-work> ok, what I want to do has to be ****ing possible
<Nomad411> frb-work: what is it?
<frb-work> insane network setup
<Nomad411> ahhhh.
<Nomad411> Don't look at me then, I can't even samba with Xp right now
<frb-work> !samba
<SuSEhelp> SAMBA howto for Suse: http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_1.htm
<frb-work> the hard part is the firewall
<Nomad411> making me ahh, teh easy way.. I prefer to try for days without reading anything, then come whine about it on teh #kde channel while they tell m eto go to #linux ;) Just kidding.. Thanks for the link
<osubuck> so does anyone know if suse 10.1 will have a dvd iso available for download?
<frb-work> osubuck: I bet it will
<osubuck> so i don't have to burn 5 cds?
<frb-work> I think it's actually up to 6 cds
<Nomad411> Yup, I ***umed so much, I was gonna figure further once I'm done burning some DVDs
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