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<GNAM> may be not
<kaiSVK> GNAM, aaaa, it will be identical !
<GNAM> MAH
<kaiSVK> GNAM, but I will download the official release !
<daPhoenix> GNAM: Sigh. A GM indicates it's the same version that goes to the presses.
<GNAM> MAH
<bnry> gm is from a week ago
<_kadaj_3> what the time now?
<pingvin> ok so when is comming final ???
<kaiSVK> today midnight ? :)
<_kadaj_3> opensuse.org down
<pingvin> if i install GM can i update with final 10.1
<kaiSVK> it will be the same I think ...
<pingvin> _kadaj_3: too many people wonna download ;)
<_kadaj_3> download suse?
<_kadaj_3> it is not release yet
<pingvin> yeah the are checking if its out !
<_kadaj_3> so am i
<Youssef***ad> can't you guys use some RSS somewhere?
<Thanatos90025> how do i re***ign my mouse buttons?
<_kadaj_3> suse server will "boom" when suse linux 10.1 release
<dopez> its already 'booming'
<_kadaj_3> why?
<dopez> try loading opensuse.org ?
<_kadaj_3> its site is slow
<_kadaj_3> why?
<Grommet> cool :)
<Grommet> I am on the internet but insight is still broken :)
<_kadaj_3> suse 10.1 not yet release
<pingvin> i think if you download GM then you have after update final !
<daPhoenix> pingvin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_recording
<daPhoenix> Also known as GM.
<daPhoenix> Unless, of course, Novell has decided to come up with new terms.
<daPhoenix> "Well, we used to have this thing called Gold Master which meant the original master copy that went to duplication, but lolz, let's rename it into Beta1 so #suse people will get pwned. nubs. lolz. omgwtf."
<_kadaj_3> if i installed suse 10.1 GM,can i update to final version?
<hensema> _kadaj_3: daPhoenix has just explained that the GM *is* the final version
<Thanatos90025> for some reason i cant run mp3s im using amarok and xine as an engine
<daPhoenix> Yes, in every CD related industry, GM means The Final Copy Of Which All Others Are Made Of.
<fsu> I wonder, why people are so confused about this naming. it's almost same as in 10.0: SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD1.iso vs. SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-x86_64-CD1.iso
<pingvin> :)
<Hendikins> Who cares how they name it, as long as product, version, arch and CD number are in there?
<|marvin|> hello,good morning
<|marvin|> does anybody know, if there is a way to read in an external channel.conf into kaffeine ?
<daPhoenix> |marvin|: http://lab.infodatei.de/conf2dvb/
<daPhoenix> |marvin|: You can't read it straight into it (it's broken) but you can convert a chanels.conf via that little webpage to a channels.dvb :)
<daPhoenix> s/chanel/channels.
<daPhoenix> |marvin|: ***uming that's what you wanted - I could be wrong :P
<pingvin> daPhoenix: you are try guru i hope you are right
<|marvin|> yeah, itīs nice...thank you, thats the answer ;-)
<daPhoenix> pingvin: Well I'm just quoting what every other company uses as "GM" :)
<hensema> that combined with the fact suse 10.1 was due to be released today makes it quite likely the GM isos are the final version.
<Hendikins> I've been ***ured that it is very much final.
<pingvin> me to
<Hendikins> (one of the perks of being able to har*** somebody on the suse payroll)
<dopez> time to get out my cd-rw's then :)
<daPhoenix> Time to see if I can do a "on the fly" upgrade on one of my text boxes.
<daPhoenix> And no, you should never do this :P
<pingvin> 10 min to cd 3 and see what heppends
<hensema> man, it was hell ;-)
<daPhoenix> :o
<Hendikins> One of the things that annoyed me at CeBIT yesterday was the Linux folks trying to shove Ubuntu down my throat.
<hensema> it was the rpm 3.x -> 4.0 transition
<Hendikins> No, I don't like Gnome. No, I don't like Debian. Deal with it.
<hensema> so rpm broke halfway during the upgrade
<hensema> not pretty
<daPhoenix> :D
<|marvin|> daPhoenix: itīs working, thanks again ..
<daPhoenix> |marvin|: Cheers - common issue, those nasty channel problems :)
<hensema> right, four boxes upgraded from -RC3 to -final
<Youssef***ad> One thing I don't get is, 15 Mb into the kernel delta download it still says 26%. Does suse ship with 60 Mb kernels?
<daPhoenix> Oh dear. Packages require manual intervention :)
<hensema> time to hit the shower
<Youssef***ad> gah, I like this distro initially but this updating experience is just...
<Hendikins> I'm not touching 10.1 on this box until I see at least the first couple of rounds of errata.
<Hendikins> I'll put it on the laptop though.
<Ancient1_> when we'll be able to d/l 10.1 ?
<Hendikins> Some time within the next 24 hours, I would expect.
<Ancient1_> hehe .. 11.may duhh
<Ancient1_> would I have to d/l isos or upgrade with Yast ?
<Hendikins> I'm GMT+10, so even the 12th doesn't bother me.
<Ancient1_> aussie ?
<Ancient1_> curly is aussie too
<daPhoenix> Total Size of Packages to Update: 2.0 GB, oh dear.
<Hendikins> I'm tossing up between getting the delta ISOs when they hit the wire (I've got RC3 ISOs here), or waiting for my ISP to mirror the 10.1 ISOs (mmm 2.4 megabytes per second...)
<Ancient1_> wow
<daPhoenix> Here goes nothing, let's see how badly it breaks.
<Youssef***ad> :\
<daPhoenix> Hendikins: BT kids had some phat pipes, took me less than 30 minutes to dl all the 5 cds :)
<Ancient1_> I would like to able to d/l and than install while it resides on another HDD
<pjv> it would be nice to have adsl+2
<Hendikins> daPhoenix: I can do it in about 23 minutes with chained wget (1 - 5)
<pingvin> 20 min 1 cd
<Hendikins> pjv: I've got Telstra cable.
<Hendikins> (and Internode ADSL)
<daPhoenix> Hendikins: It's always nice to have the entire distro d/l while you have a nice cup' o coffee :D
<pingvin> dsl 4mb
<Hendikins> pjv: Where are you located?
<Ancient1_> a nice cup of coffee is nice whatever u do
<Hendikins> daPhoenix: Where's CD6 though?
<pjv> Hendikins: I'm at Hoppers Vic.
<Ancient1_> cofee = nice
<Hendikins> pjv: Bugger. I was going to say, if you're in Sydney, there's a SNUG meeting on Tuesday...
<pjv> I'll be working for telstra next week, I hope I can get some freebies :)
<Hendikins> I could always mail a copy down if you can't easily procure it.
<pjv> time for my 56k dialup upgrade
<Hendikins> They don't give Telstra employees much at all as far as broadband goes. You'll be disappointed
<daPhoenix> Snu-Snu Meeting? :o
<pjv> Hendikins: I'll wait till you perform a stable test, then fill me in if it's worth having
<mikedep333> can anyone else access anything on gwdg.de, such as their website at http://www.gwdg.de ?
<pjv> :)
<Hendikins> pjv: I've given RC3 somewhat of a poke. Looks pretty, seems to work.
<mikedep333> for those of you that don't know, ftp.gwdg.de is a big suse mirror
<Ancient1_> what will enable kopete to send files ?
<Hendikins> gwdg.de isn't nearly of as much use to me as files.bigpond.com
<mikedep333> yeah, but ftp-1.gwdg.de is serving opensuse 10.1
<Hendikins> for the Aussies, ftp.iinet.net.au or mirror.pacific.net.au are best
<Hendikins> mikedep333: in that case, I'll submit request for files.bigpond :)
<Hendikins> if I can even connect to it
<Ancient1_> check also your local Linux society for more mirrors
<mikedep333> can anyone access gwdg.de right now though at all?
<Ancient1_> I have here a mirror which isn't listed
<Hendikins> I know all the good .au mirrors that work well
<mikedep333> just follow the link someone and see if it works
<|marvin|> ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1
<Ancient1_> ah. what about Kopete and Files ? need plugin or what ?
<lAN^pART1> hello everyone
<pingvin> ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/
<Ancient1_> hello .
<lAN^pART1> where i can get drivers ati
<mikedep333> ooh, to-chemnitz.de is fast
<sappy> hi
<mikedep333> I'll just switch to them
<sappy> i wanna learn about suse
<|marvin|> but there simce no jigdo allready created, isenīt it ?
<mikedep333> lAN^pART1: www.ati.com
<mikedep333> lAN^pART1: Suse also has open-source ATI drivers built in, but the ones from ati are better.
<mikedep333> sappy: You just want a general overview of suse?
<lAN^pART1> ati site
<mikedep333> lAN^pART1: what about it?
<mikedep333> oh, let me link you directly to them
<Narfindoodle> how do i get the 2 buttons on my trackball that dont work to do something?
<Hendikins> Is opensuse.org slashdotted?
<apokryphos> where's the /. article?
<sappy> what cool software is there for Suse ?
<lAN^pART1> but the ones from ati are better
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