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<wad> seele_: xine
<bill-barriere> seele_, everything thats gonna use sound need use same output eg: all alsa , all esd all arts
<bill-barriere> cant have 2 sound deamon to woprk at the same time
<seele_> bill-barriere, then how can I play two sounds in the same card ?
<tjb891> is SUSE designed to run under Gnome or under KDE?
<Ash-Fox> Both
<tjb891> does it run under either one better?
<Ash-Fox> Well, it depends on your needs.
<tjb891> do you know which one uses more resources?
<robert_> Hm
<robert_> I need to upgrade to SuSE 10
<sarnold> tjb891: that's quite difficult to ascertain, especially as they provide different functionality
<Ash-Fox> I'd wait for Novell to actually release it?
<Ash-Fox> So far theres only OpenSuSE 10.
<frb-work> it's not opensuse 10
<frb-work> it's Suse Linux 10.0
<sarnold> tjb891: you may wish to try both and see which one meets your needs better; or if something else entirely may be more appropriate to your uses...
<frb-work> tomorrow Suse Linux 10.1 will be released
<Ash-Fox> Dear god, camn they stop changing the names
<sarnold> robert_: if you wait a day or two, you can install suse linux 10.1 instead :)
<tjb891> what is each one good for, all the wesites are partisan on it
<sarnold> Ash-Fox: if we're lucky, there is one more name change in the works, to "opensuse", just so we can stop having this stupid discussion every time ;)
<tjb891> aren't they the same disto
<benJIman|tov> sarnold: no that would just confuse people more
<sarnold> tjb891: gnome is good for the "just give me something simple without a bunch of options". kde is good for the "I like to be able to configure my environment".
<bill-barriere> ...
<benJIman|tov> we've told so many people now, more people understand the naming than don't
<tjb891> thx
<Ash-Fox> SuSE 9 has better support availible for it.
<sarnold> benJIman|tov: i don't think so; nearly everyone calls the distribution "opensuse" anyway :)
<Ash-Fox> (as in technical support)
<benJIman|tov> I would say less than half
<frb-work> nearly all the NEWBS call it opensuse
<tjb891> isn't opensuse just SUSE without realplayer,adobe, and flash
<benJIman|tov> !notopensuse
<SuSEhelp> "openSUSE" is the name of the community project (wiki, mailing-lists, IRC room, etc...) - the distribution itself is called "SUSE Linux"
<frb-work> the day I can go to Fry's and buy a box that says OpenSuse on it, I'll call it opensuse
<frb-work> eek, a yaloki
<sarnold> frb-work: if we're lucky, it'll be nine months or so :)
<yaloki> yuck, an frb
<matze2006> good evening
<benJIman|tov> we need to turn joinquotes on :)
<benJIman|tov> !randomq yaloki
<SuSEhelp> <benJIman> yaloki: maybe red is fashionable in romania
<SuSEhelp> <yaloki> benJIman: that was some years ago
<matze2006> can somebody tell me something?
<matze2006> when will suse 10.1 released?
<yaloki> heheh
<sarnold> matze2006: "tomorrow"
<frb-work> !topic
<benJIman|tov> sometime tomorrow
<matze2006> i know that tomorrow? do somebody have a time?
<benJIman|tov> when it appears
<frb-work> just leave
<benJIman|tov> you could wait till friday if you want
<sulin> hello
<matze2006> im lokking forward to that! i hope this this dist runs perfectly with my hardware
<sarnold> matze2006: did you try any of the betas or RCs?
<benJIman|tov> Morlark: yarr
<matze2006> no i did'nt. because i don't know about the delta isos
<matze2006> i dont know what to do with them
<bill-barriere> people all ftp will implode tommorrow anyway ;)
<matze2006> i know ^^
<matze2006> suse is a nice distri :)
<matze2006> maybe i should try a download at 01:00 am with my downloadmanager ^^
<frb-work> sure, and get 1b/second
<matze2006> i think they will have an internet installation image ^^
<sarnold> i just hope the torrents work well :)
<frb-work> I'll just wait till next week, or leech it off a friend
<_oXo_> suse update broke my dosemu... [:-<
<matze2006> they will have one than more mirror.
<benJIman|tov> newsflash there are multiple timezones
<matze2006> i have gmt+ 1
<matze2006> Berlin, Amsterdam etc.
<frb-work> all the crazy people will be hammering the mirrors as soon as it is released
<parph> yeah
<parph> there gonna crawl those mirrors
<zly> [23:11:02] <frb-work> the day I can go to Fry's and buy a box that says OpenSuse on it, I'll call it opensuse
<matze2006> so than i hope, it will be uppet at torrent so fast.
<zly> http://www.order.in/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=suse&x=0&y=0 <-- theres one for ya :P
<frb-work> zly: the box says Suse Linux
<zly> i know ;)
<matze2006> i can see it in my brain. ^^ more than 3000 seeders :D
<frb-work> it doesn't say Opensuse 10.1
<zly> but not _that_ box
<benJIman|tov> matze2006: noone will use torrents when there's multiple mirrors with multi-gigabit connections
<sarnold> benJIman|tov: depends on the speeds they can get from the torrents...
<matze2006> benJ..... torrent is a nice network. and legal to share opensource. so many people will use it! it was always so. and will be always so!
<frb> zly: even the description says it's Suse Linux
<frb> torrent ****s
<benJIman|tov> matze2006: you'll never get the same speeds
<benJIman|tov> mirrors on academic networks will always be a better solution
<frb> I've never gotten a speed higher than like 20k off a torrent, and I get 150k off a real mirror
<zly> frb: i know, i was just showing you a box that said open suse ;)... I aint confused with the names..
<matze2006> you are right! i'll never get the same speed! it will be faster ^^
<benJIman|tov> I can get 11mb/s off mirror here
<sarnold> zly: is your firewall configured correctly?
<matze2006> i have dsl 2k. i alreasy downloaded with 220kb/s
<zly> sarnold: eh ?
<sarnold> zly: bittorrent download speed significantly depends on upload speed. if you've configure firewalls to let you upload bittorrent traffic, you can usually get 10x-20x speeupds
<matze2006> some german people here?
<matze2006> i always download with max speed.
<matze2006> so 20kbs
<zly> sarnold: i am very aware of that hehe, i just never asked a question here about torrents ?
<sarnold> zly: *sigh* :) sorry
<bill-barriere> 150k ... i get 1000k out of univ mirror .. rminding me i need a faster hub
<zly> np :)
<sarnold> it was frb....
<matze2006> hey bill
<matze2006> you may have a faster internet-connection
<bill-barriere> hoh thats modem max anyway ;)
<wad> Hey, guys. Got a question for you. On my Windows box, I use an application called ThumbsPlus to sort, categorize, rename, and do some simple modifications to images. What's a good corresponding app for Suse?
<matze2006> but normal people can only pay dsl or cable
<bill-barriere> thats cable
<frb-work> wad: digikam?
<wad> ftb-work: Thanks, I'll check it out!
<matze2006> a fast cavle conn..
<matze2006> *cable conn
<matze2006> my dsl 2k is okay.
<frb> say bye to this client, time for some VPN testing action
<matze2006> today i downloaded mission impossible. so it is okay.
<sarnold> frb: see ya
<matze2006> so i will test Ghost Recon with WineX now.
<frb-work> netflix is faster than torrent for movies
<bill-barriere> bleh i so hate dsl i had one of those before and they so damn ****
<matze2006> Advanced War
<bill-barriere> always get disconnecttted some day got bad packet and they are slow
<matze2006> i use dsl since 3 years now
<matze2006> never had problems
<matze2006> i live in germany and use T-Online with a Mentor Router
<parph> dsl is fine, I get max 360k with dsl
<matze2006> AOL ****s
<matze2006> static ip is nice for a server
<bill-barriere> :/ 24mbit dsl wtf
<frb-work> I really need a sane wireless network manager for linux
<hensema> adsl2
<matze2006> maybe eAthena, Freya or Xampp
<hensema> it's the next generation of dsl
<bill-barriere> hoh yeah seen those in a internet caffee
<bill-barriere> xdsl
<bill-barriere> not adsl
<yaloki> latest gen is vdsl2
<yaloki> 50 down and 24 up
<bill-barriere> heh didnt saw those tho
<bill-barriere> wow
<matze2006> hmm
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