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<0> its the opportunity cost that matters, our lives are not infinite
<1> that depends on one's thinking
<0> so opportunity costs dont exist :) ?
<2> none of the native players have AVS
<2> that's odd, it works as winamp_.exe but not as winamp.exe
<2> lllitt's still glitchy
<1> well again depends on one's personal choices , if you say adding to your knowlegde is wasting of time then we could not have been able to sit here in front of these screens and typing on somethiing called keyboard , knowledge never hurts in any sense , this is what i think :)
<2> oh, if only I could get AVS for XMMS
<0> aman: knowledge is only useful if its needed
<1> and what is needed, you never know
<0> thats like saying, every landscaper should know kernel internals
<2> dang, now it freezes whenever it changes songs
<0> just use windowsz
<1> again its personal choices , i am a bussiness student but i have interest in knowing computers and this stuff , so i am learning
<0> if AVS is that important
<0> aman, as a business student you should know about how to make money, not computers
<1> i know how to satisfy my interests as well
<0> people can be hired to know about computers, relatively cheap too
<2> gp***wd has no -a option
<3> huh
<2> aararararrraafrrgh
<3> gp***wd -a audio,games,porn username doesn't work ?
<2> it freezes whenever it changes songs
<3> define 'it' ?
<2> Winamp
<1> its gp***wd -a (your_username) audio
<3> well, at least that's not a linux problem:D
<4> DanaG: #winehq
<3> oh, tell me you're not running winamp, with wine. please
<1> well yes he is
<3> why not just use audacious, xmms, beep-media-player, amarok or one of the proper players ?
<0> if only those players would support cuesheets+ape
<3> write a plugin for it ?
<5> hello, what package repositorie contains the kernel source for suse oss 10.0?
<6> stoove: the normal inst-source
<6> stoove: or the cd/dvd
<5> cb400f: ok thanks
<6> stoove: run YOU after installation of kernel sources.. to ensure the kernel sources and kernel is the same version
<5> is there a reason that the yast2 software installer hangs a long time before displaying the package list?
<7> stoove: is it set to refresh? it could be getting a new list
<5> easytiger_: but it takes like >15 min.
<7> lol. ouch.
<5> with debian it took 30sec. or something
<7> are you on dialup?
<5> ...no
<5> its not the connection
<7> hmm. i noticed it was faster in suse 10 than suse 9... or are you on 10?
<5> yes, im on 10
<7> stoove: do you have only standard cd installation sources?
<7> or do you have pakman, guru etc?
<5> easytiger_: yes, the kernel source is working now and yast was also slow with only the standard repositorie
<7> hmm.. so you use online mirrors? perhaps its a bad mirror? hard to say. not had that long a wait with it.
<8> hi, all... linux 101 question...because I'm apparently an idiot...
<8> chmod 6755 . ==> unless my memory is greatly failing me, that's how one sets set-uid and set-gid for the . directory, yes?
<9> ramz: yes
<9> 4 is suid, 2 is sgid
<9> and 1 is text
<8> with that set, when I create a subdirectory within . the user and group owner of the subdir should be inherited from . , also yes?
<9> in the first byte
<9> ramz: exactly
<10> is there a good, updated FAQ on Suse Linux somewhere?
<8> yaloki: okay, so why when I have this chmod 6775 . that when I create a subdir, are the owners root (user I'm su'd in as) and the set-gid for directory .?
<9> !google unofficial SUSE FAQ
<11> yaloki: Unofficial SUSEFAQ - Unofficial SuSE FAQ Information, tutorials, and other community-created support. Find related links and information on how to contribute.susefaq.sourceforge.net/ - 6k - See http://www.google.com/search?q=unofficial+SUSE+FAQ
<9> janeri: ^^^^^^^^
<10> thanks yaloki
<8> yaloki: I would expect the subdir's owners to be set-uid:set-gid of .
<9> ramz: well, yes, that should be the case
<8> well, hell's bells... what am I doing wrong?
<12> hi there
<12> I have a problem, I cannot be able to compile a thing in 32bit mode in SUSE OSS 10.1 64bits
<8> yaloki: would umask have any effect? I wouldn't think so, but it's all I can think of at this point
<12> it seems to fail gathering the correct libs, and frankly I dont know how to fix it
<9> it could, yes, but only if the first byte of umask is set
<9> ramz: what's umask set to ?
<8> yaloki: which it's not... 022
<9> ok, then it's not umask
<12> does anyone know how to fix it?
<8> yaloki: another interesting tidbit... the new subdir has perms drwxr-s-r-x owned by root/gid of .
<8> VeryBadGuy: not I... still haven't made the 64-bit foray here... sorry...
<9> VeryBadGuy: how are you trying to compile in 32bit ? -m32 ?
<12> well, I am playing with a EM64T chip with no so much success so far
<9> define "not so much success"
<12> well, I cannot make gcc to compile a thing in 32 bit mode
<9> VeryBadGuy: and how are you trying to compile 32bit targets
<9> VeryBadGuy: using the linux32 wrapper ? by p***ing -m32 to gcc ?
<12> and there are two lib dir, "lib" and "lib64" so there is code that is 64 in the others
<12> well, p***ing the -m32 flag to gcc
<9> ok
<12> it seems to be the correct thing to do, am I right?
<9> and what's happening exactly ?
<9> well, yes and no
<12> how is that?
<9> -m32 will tell gcc to create 32bit objects
<9> but it won't tell gcc to pull 32bit libs for linking
<12> how do I tell gcc to put 32 bit to linking?
<9> are you linking against some shared library from the distribution ?
<12> yes
<9> by running your build process in the "linux32" wrapper
<9> linux32 make ...
<9> for example
<12> what is linux32?
<9> linux32 is a wrapper that will "fool" every subprocess into thinking it's on a 32bit system
<9> and hence, pull libraries from lib instead of lib64
<12> its the same result
<9> uname -m in a subprocess of linux32 will say i686 instead of x86_64, so you don't even need to p*** -m32 to gcc
<12> for example "/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: saltando el /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../libc.so incompatible mientras se buscaba -lc
<12> "
<9> you're not running it as a subprocess of linux32 then
<9> are you using make? scons?
<12> when running "
<12> linux32 gcc -m32 t.c"
<9> drop the -m32
<12> you are right it happens to work
<12> thanks a lot!
<12> what was the problem then?
<9> yes
<9> well
<9> 64bit Linux is a so-called "biarch" system
<9> which means that you have both 64bit and 32bit shared libs installed
<12> yes, and that makes me really cofused...
<9> the 64bit libs are in lib64 subdirectories (e.g. /lib64, /usr/lib64, /opt/kde3/lib64, ...)
<9> and the 32bit libs are in "lib" subdirectories, as usual
<9> (e.g. /usr/lib)
<9> sooo
<9> when you use the linker (ld)
<12> shouldnt be the other way around?
<9> or when ldd does the runtime linkage
<9> it looks at what architecture it is running on
<9> when it's running on x86_64, it uses the lib64 directories
<9> now, when you p*** -m32 to gcc
<9> it tells gcc to create 32bit code
<13> somebody have no performance problem with newest nvidia driver?
<9> but it doesn't tell gcc to take the shared libraries from lib instead of lib64
<12> ok thx yaloki
<12> but in 32 bit mode -m32 should have no effect at all, am I right?
<9> right
<12> but it has...
<12> a sentence like "linux32 gcc -m32 foo.c" results in error
<9> well, I don't know, probably gcc is failing because you are telling it to produce 32bit code so it ***umes being on a non 32bit system, I don't know
<9> whatever, just drop the -m32 and it works
<14> someone needs to burn ipw 2000 drivers
<12> yes, thx again for the help
<9> yw
<15> hi, using YaST to try and make my scanner work (Canon Cannoscan LiDE 35). Firstly it detected the scanner, but couldnt find a driver, I installed the rpm from opensuse 10.1, it now sees it, when i try to set up the scanner in yast, it tells me: "failed to activate genesys"
<16> Sivik: what do you mean?
<17> help please, lpt pprinter not working, tested on Windows
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