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<fluxdude> no, if it gets to grub you haven't set the bios properly
<brainiac_ghost> 10.1 beta or not
<brainiac_ghost> fluxdude, suse's live cd grub
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<lslarry> can anybody describe _why_ sles' sasl implementation doesn't support ldap?
<brainiac_ghost> have no os on that pachine
<fluxdude> oh, though you meant the system's grub...
<fluxdude> is it a very old machine?
<brainiac_ghost> fluxdude, new this xmas
<fluxdude> can you boot off another live cd?
<fluxdude> see if that works
<sPiN> http://www.gamespot.com/promos/2006/battleformiddleearth2-demo/
<aka_druid_> lslarry: dont you think thats a question you should ask for novell support?
<aka_druid_> fluxdude: the cd doesnt have grub. It uses isolinux
<lslarry> aka_druid_ yes. just asking, may be here somebody knows
<fluxdude> i don't recall a cd having used grub before, that's why I thought it was system's grub
<fluxdude> it may get stuck because it can't handle something, try setting boot options like no acpi or something...
<brainiac_ghost> fluxdude, tried full safe options
<brainiac_ghost> downloading a 10.1 alpha image to see if it is fixed
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<brainiac_ghost> or it may be because it is 64 bit
<fluxdude> it may just be a problem with that disk, have you tried other live distros
<brainiac_ghost> 32 bit OS's have been installed
<brainiac_ghost> ubuntu, gentoo and windows
<brainiac_ghost> burning
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<Hohlraum> hey guys. . is it correct if the netinstaller warns that the repo doesn't match the install media? i'm installing beta3 (yes I have the beta3 network install cd) i'm using http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ as the repo according to the opensuse development install directions.
<pixil> Why does the SLES9 install telling me that I'm installing 32 bit software on a 64 bit machine. The machine is a dual Xeon 3.60 ghz with EM64T.
<brainiac_ghost> pixil, because you are
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<pixil> EM64T is 100% backwards compatible though.
<pixil> And I don't see a SLES9 install for x86-64.
<pixil> only amd64.
<pixil> It seems hideous to use the amd64 version. ;-)
<aka_druid_> pfff
<aka_druid_> intel cloned AMD arch, what are you complainnig
<aka_druid_> die intel
<cb400f> Hohlraum: I think Factory is newer than beta3.. but better wait.. beta4 is out tomorrow
<pixil> I'm complaining that this message indicates I'm making a mistake. ;-)
<brainiac_ghost> cb400f, is it ?
<brainiac_ghost> pixil, it isn't, it is just telling n00bs
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<Hohlraum> cb400f: the site sez the 14th or something
<Hohlraum> unless you live in the future thats next week
<fluxdude> why doesn't sudo see my domain authenticated user? everything else on pam does, maybe sudo is not using pam or has a bug?
<cb400f> brainiac_ghost: you're right..
<pixil> brainiac_ghost: So. Would you suggest I just stick with the i386 SLES9 install, then?
<brainiac_ghost> pixil, yep
<brainiac_ghost> :)
<fluxdude> sudo: pam_authenticate: User not known to the underlying authentication module
<brainiac_ghost> is there a 10.1-beta3 install source
<pixil> And should I keep HT enabled, even though the box has two physical cpus?
<brainiac_ghost> ?
<cb400f> brainiac_ghost: they must have just changed it.. many, many changes in beta4 too
<brainiac_ghost> what exactly is "factory
<brainiac_ghost> "
<cb400f> brainiac_ghost: I think it's kind of like "cvs"
<brainiac_ghost> hmm
<brainiac_ghost> how would i create a rt2500 module disk
<brainiac_ghost> ?
<brainiac_ghost> is there an extra module dir
<brainiac_ghost> well
<brainiac_ghost> ?
<brainiac_ghost> screw it
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<Pitchin_uk> how do i setup fgrlx again - ive forgotten
<aka_druid_> !ati
<SuSEhelp> 9.3 already includes ATI drivers. Install fglrx and read /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/README.SuSE. In SuSE 10, please download the latest drivers from www.ATI.com, and then follow these instructions http://linux.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/suse-100-ati-drivers-installation/
<Pitchin_uk> cheers aka_druid
<bill-barriere> http://jarpack.net/ati-driver-how-to
<brainiac_ghost> hmph, my it teacher said linux is for people who can't figure out how to pirate windows
<brainiac_ghost> :(
<Grommet> haha
<SpooForBrains> Hmm, I think someone needs to give Microsoft an anonymous call :)
<brainiac_ghost> wasd funny but
<aka_druid_> tell him that when he can find a brain he can go here and discuss that
<aka_druid_> with me
<brainiac_ghost> :P
<sjones> that explains quite a bit about the state of IT these days.
<brainiac_ghost> heh
<Grommet> more kde updates :)
<brainiac_ghost> :P]
<SpooForBrains> I would say that any IT teacher that isn't familiar with Linux and its variants shouldn't be allowed to call themselves an IT teacher.
<Grommet> maybe some of my buggies will go away
<netmask> SpooForBrains: it's a windows teacher
<aka_druid_> s/teacher/cheater/
<SuSEhelp> aka_druid_ thinks netmask meant: SpooForBrains: it's a windows cheater
<netmask> :P
<Grommet> only one of the IT guys where I work has ever worked with linux
<Grommet> but soon we won't have on site IT support anyway
<Grommet> we'll have to call an 800 number :)
<SpooForBrains> I think any IT professional who hasn't experienced at least two operating systems that aren't Windows should have a hard time calling themselves an IT professional
<Nermal> "double glazing fitter"
<Nermal> "you like windows so much?!"
<Grommet> most of our guys work with macs because macs run some of our machines
<Nermal> FIT MINE BITCH.
<Richlv> SpooForBrains, we have it teachers here that have trouble with windows. and at best they have heard of linux. once.
<Solaris444> Spoo... Interesting thought.
<Solaris444> Probably true.
<Solaris444> But I mean, do you just lump all unix-like systems in one?
<SpooForBrains> No. But for example, I have a working knowledge of MacOS, OS/2, Linux and Windows. If you're only focusing on Windows you're only doing half a job
<SpooForBrains> Windows could disappear in a couple of years.
<Richlv> SpooForBrains, wishful thinking
<Richlv> ;)
<sjones> s/Windows/any OS/
<SuSEhelp> sjones thinks SpooForBrains meant: any OS could disappear in a couple of years.
<netmask> SpooForBrains: less thahn half, since windows is one among many :P
<SpooForBrains> Richlv: tell me about it
<Pitchin_uk> !ati
<SuSEhelp> 9.3 already includes ATI drivers. Install fglrx and read /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/README.SuSE. In SuSE 10, please download the latest drivers from www.ATI.com, and then follow these instructions http://linux.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/suse-100-ati-drivers-installation/
<brainiac_ghost> why are net installs so effing slow
<brainiac_ghost> :(
<Nermal> ****e mirror ?
<aka_druid_> poor connection?
<brainiac_ghost> nah
<SpooForBrains> brainiac_ghost: think how much data is being shifted, dude
<brainiac_ghost> i mean time consuming
<brainiac_ghost> i suppose about 3 GB
<brainiac_ghost> :(
<brainiac_ghost> :)
<SpooForBrains> I know a good way to promote non-Windows usage in non-American markets ... Just a poster that says "Think. America could declare war on YOU tomorrow!"
<aka_druid_> my net isntalla range from 35 to 45 minutes...
<Grommet> lol
<aka_druid_> shrug
<Grommet> America is no longer capable of declaring war on anyplace that is rich enough to have a lot of computer reliance.
<brainiac_ghost> :P
<brainiac_ghost> :D
<Grommet> ok, restarting new kde stuff to see if buggies are gone :)
<Grommet> brb
<woodefec> the bug with panel showing some dumb suggestions when mouse flies over it isnt gone here
<Grommet> I think one of my buggies is gone :)
<woodefec> although i disabled it, still shows those anoying things
<woodefec> Grommet : where did u have those badwindows?
<Grommet> woodefec: where it tells you which mouse buttons to click?
<Solaris444> anyone using the latest beta?
<Grommet> in my .X.err
<Grommet> every time I'd maximize something from the kicker I'd get badwindow major opcode 19 or 20
<Grommet> they seem to be gone now
<Grommet> still getting lots of akode errors
<mischko> I have a stock suse 9.1 install with the ssh server visible to the network. Do I need to upgrade it for security purposes?
<Grommet> and knotify errors
<mischko> it=ssh server.
<SpooForBrains> mischko: I think so. I seem to recall some vulnerability in openSSH that may or may not have been after 9.1 was released.
<SpooForBrains> I'd highly recommend running YOU anyway
<fluxdude> does anybody know why if I have getent group shows: domain admins:x:<gidnumber>:testuser,administrator
<mischko> SpooForBrains, i have a command-line only interface. What's YOU?
<fluxdude> and visudo: "domain\ admins ALL=(ALL) ALL", then only the first user on the line of getent can sudo su?


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