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<0> that thing provide zmd net feature thingy and it say rug should be able to connect
<1> tech9iner: can't we get a nice woman to pinch us and pull us into HER dreams?
<2> oh man.. comforting yaloki .. ;]]
<1> er.. nightmare?
<2> whats this ''''US'''' chit kkathman ?.. lol
<1> bglad: Im just glad you arent a pharmacist or a doctor with that attitude :)
<1> hehe
<2> lol
<3> hi all, i have an Apple ibook and wondered if anyone here ran Suse on PPC?
<4> ok, I need some ati lovin
<1> but hey... I can boot both and they work...soooooooooooo. heh
<0> yaloki seem everything in 10.1 is there so the daemon can be used remotly, just its badlly agregated together
<5> bill-barriere: yes, and it's not tested at all
<2> am i in hold status yaloki for smart probs ?
<5> tech9iner: hm?
<5> frb-work: the workaround atm would be to lock the kdebase3 package
<0> so zmd should connect to its inventory and that thingy to libzypp or is it paralell to it
<6> is anyone aware of linux compatible gbit ethernet nics with a WOL connector?
<4> yaloki: none of those upgrades are important enough for me to care
<5> frb-work: okay
<2> any work round on my current NO gkrellm NO seamonkey NO mozillas atall here yaloki ?
<0> yaloki, i was having fun with their CASA thingy ... dont touch this thing kwallet wrapper its evil ;)
<5> should report it on opensuse-packaging@opensuse.org though, to have them fix it
<4> I have kde 3.5.3 and amarok(guru) everything else is fluff
<5> tech9iner: I don't understand it. I have 10.0 here as well, and I only get to see gtk2-2.8.3, no gtk2-2.8.10
<2> seems my update from 3.4.2 to 3.5.3 broke many things here frb-work
<5> tech9iner: rpm -q gtk2
<2> mk
<5> tech9iner: also, are you on 32bit or 64bit ?
<7> yaloki: ill report it, i have a screenshot and everything...
<2> gtk2-2.8.10-46
<2> 32bit here yaloki
<2> P4 2.4 / 512 ram fairly typical arch here yaloki
<5> tech9iner: rpm -q --qf "%{DISTRIBUTION} %{ARCH}\n" gtk2
<8> n8
<5> sPiN-: ok, thanks :)
<5> n8 kommerck
<2> wow!! mmk yaloki lmao.. didnt realize chinese your end
<5> ;)
<7> http://spinink.net/images/screens/conflicts.jpg
<2> yaloki SuSE Linux 10.0 (i586) i586
<5> sPiN-: it's even more interesting with "smart upgrade --explain"
<5> sPiN-: also include this one from frb: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AGLJWQ89.html
<4> I love --explain
<5> sPiN-: it shows that kdebase3-SuSE-10.0 conflicts with kdebase3-3.5.3
<4> oh, should I do that smart upgrade kopete again?
<2> is kde 3.5.3 my probs perhaps yaloki ?
<2> just updated to it
<2> from 3.4.2 that is
<5> tech9iner: yes, definitely, packagers made a mistake
<2> how to via smart perhaps yaloki ?
<2> smart ignorant to child levels here yaloki
<2> albeit does recall my yrs on yum mngt
<0> omfg ... just looked at kdebase3 contain
<5> well, a workaround would be to 1) only upgrade kdebase3, then 2) lock the kdebase3 package, then 3) upgrade the rest
<2> mkay.. im game if there is some step by step on this approach hopefully yaloki please?
<4> yaloki, spin: http://rafb.net/paste/results/lcBV4b63.html
<0> http://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kdebase3&project=KDE%3AKDE3
<0> insane
<5> frb-work: I guess that's fine though, even if the display is.. surprising ;)
<5> frb-work: could be some form of smart issue here, wouldn't discard it, as it's upgrading kdenetwork3-InstantMessaging to 3.5.3 *and* installing kopete that is obsoleting kdenetwork3-InstantMessaging
<9> does anyone know how to add your users to zmd as privileged? On suse 10.1
<4> I'm surprised it doesn't say "Installing packages (1):" as well
<2> guessing of course but perhaps 'smart upgrade kdebase3' 1st part yaloki ?
<5> tech9iner: right
<7> the opposite state of frbs issue is in my screenshot
<2> k tx
<5> I would need to see the spec file of kopete-0.12 though to be sure
<5> dunno whether they included "Obsoletes: kdenetwork3-InstantMessaging"
<2> yaloki 'No interesting upgrades available.'
<9> clear
<5> tech9iner: rpm -q kdebase3
<2> kdebase3-3.5.3-7.1 yaloki
<5> tech9iner: ok, it's already to the latest version
<2> so 2nd now.. lock it ?.. new concept here 4 sure yaloki
<5> hmm
<5> Obsoletes: kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger
<5> Conflicts: kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger
<2> aside from gui way in yast2
<7> so ok... it seems we have 2 different issues, a kopete issue and a kde base issue
<5> sPiN-: right
<7> and what should i title this thing?
<5> sPiN-: KDE:KDE3 and KDE:Backports is fscked up ;)
<5> sPiN-: it's really 2 different issues
<0> Requires: kdelibs3 >= %( echo `rpm -q --queryformat '%{VERSION}' kdelibs3`)
<5> the kdebase3 one being the scary one
<0> that thing seem weird
<5> bill-barriere: yes, a terrible idea IMO
<4> we used to do that too
<0> :/
<5> bill-barriere: it's interpreted at build time though, not at installation time ;)
<2> anyone please ?.. how to lock kdebase3 packg via smart please?
<5> as the KDE:Backports RPMs are built on the stock KDE version anyway, it's really pointless to have a hard Requires on the kdelibs3 package
<10> Does anyone know how to and a user to ZMD in suse 1.1. When updating it tells me that I cant because my user is not priviledged and to add it
<11> _susehotbox_: I believe the command is rug ua but you should man rug to see all options
<12> :)
<10> Thanks
<2> some smart lock pckg command is there yaloki ?
<5> smart flag --set lock kdebase3
<2> wow.. that wasnt in smart --help for sure yaloki tx
<4> is it possible to force smart to use the next mirror?
<5> yes, the command is not very intuitive.. "smart lock kdebase3" would be easier
<5> frb-work: no there isn't
<4> bleh
<5> frb-work: you could edit the list of mirrors though and remove offending onces ;)
<5> EDITOR=vim smart mirror --edit
<4> the issue is the original is offensive
<2> done yaloki .. now 'smart upgrade' ?.. or 'smart upgrade all' or 'smart update blah blah bleh?
<5> frb-work: yeah, I know, I'll be thinking about a better approach
<4> I mean come on, who in their right mind would ever actually use ftp.suse.com :P
<5> frb-work: it's the canonical URL ;)
<4> it's the slowest site evar
<5> frb-work: I'm going to implement a channel option to never use the baseurl but always use mirrors, just didn't have time to do it yet
<2> bull****!!!.. dazed and confused has NOT left this server........... oi
<4> I'd rather have mirrors based on channel names, not on baseurls
<5> tech9iner: if you just want to upgrade KDE, it's: smart upgrade 'kde*' 'qt3*' 'arts*'
<5> frb-work: I've implemented a patch for smart to do that, but it's not tracked
<2> mainly i just want my gkrellm and all browsers back working yaloki
<5> frb-work: when you add a channel, smart also adds the mirrors that are included in the .channel fil
<5> frb-work: but it doesn't keep track of the ***ociation between a channel and its mirrors, at least not yet
<5> frb-work: because smart mirrors just work on any URL, it has a generic URL mapping component
<2> ***uming the 'qt3*' maybe relative to my current broken gkrellm / all mozilla browsers here..
<5> tech9iner: don't think so, it's just gtk2 that's broken
<13> Has anyone else been having problems with Firefox crashing regularly on SuSE 10.0. Its crashing on me several times a day -- any known problems/fixes?
<2> ?.. oi.. so this whole upgrade will or has on hope of fixing gtk2 then please yaloki ?
<5> pm2: rpm -e gtk-qt-engine
<5> tech9iner: it won't fix it
<13> yaloki, ?
<5> tech9iner: did you add any other channels to smart ? gnome supplementary maybe ?
<5> pm2: make sure you don't have gtk-qt-engine installed
<2> omg....... turned gnome supp off just today yaloki .. didnt realize id left it on after loading a gnome app wk back..
<5> pm2: but I'm not having any firefox crashes at all
<13> yaloki, I do... what's the problem with that?
<5> tech9iner: aaaaaaaaaargh, ok, that's the reason
<4> pm2: rpm -e dragonegg
<5> tech9iner: never, ever use gnome supplementary, it's just plain broken
<13> What's the issue with those packages?
<2> well sPiN- beat me up earlier for this.. bloody bricks still extending outta me temple now yalo
<5> gtk-qt-engine is just an unmaintained piece of crap
<5> and dragonegg adds kpart support in firefox, could cause issues as well though, it's not that stable (yet)
<2> yes yes benJIman had me remove it wk or 2 back and it fixed this exact same gkrellm / moz breakage.. but today yast2 claims its not even installed ?
<5> tech9iner: yast2 != smart
<2> 1st ive heard of dragonegg tho yaloki
<5> tech9iner: "smart query gtk2" and paste the output on http://pastebin.com
<2> mk tx tx yaloki
<5> tech9iner: and please also paste the output of "smart channel --show"
<0> now its always gtk fault ....
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