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<0> like Microsoft is desperate at getting Vista out sometime this century
<0> SCO is a pimple on the *** of IT America
<1> ms has too much cash to keep things running
<1> 0 debt, ridiculous cash reserves
<0> main: perhaps so, but all it takes are a string of legal blunders and patent infringements
<1> not with ms
<1> they are too large
<0> main: I haven't looked at their books, but I doubt they have zero debt.
<0> main: all giants fall...
<1> ibm didnt fall until now:)
<0> look at Sun. IBM. Ma Bell...
<0> Sun is only a fraction of what it was
<0> IBM, not even in the hardware business anymore
<0> Ma Bell, busted up for monopolizing phone services
<2> IBM is the third largest brand in the world
<3> historically novell have always had some of the strongest products, just they always seem to not market them enough or something :/
<1> what matters is their statements:)
<2> marginally behind microsoft
<2> they've hardly fallen :p
<1> and their income is 10 times of ms
<1> or what is it..
<0> benJIman: I doubt their revenue is half of that they enjoyed in the 80's and early 90's
<1> maybe they are not in hardware biz anymore because its not attractive?
<2> sky_monkey007: it's much the same actually
<1> actually, i thought having fabs counts as hardware biz:)
<0> benJIman: even after leaving the hardware market?
<2> sky_monkey007: they made a loss in the mid-late 90s now they're back where they were to start with
<2> complete turn arround
<1> their income is pretty much the same, sky_monkey007
<0> benJIman: good to know. Might have to look at re-adding them to my mutual fund again.
<1> you run a mutual fund?
<0> but we can all agree, Novells Netware is a sinking ship.
<0> main: I have one, yes.
<1> have one, or manage one
<0> I don't like the way it's managed though. I might move it.
<1> how is it you can add a separate stock to your fund
<0> I know the guy who runs the management firm :)
<4> back
<0> wb
<4> nX0R: How long have you been using linux for?
<0> main: the CEO and CIO get their own customized portfolio's. I'm close to the CEO, so I've got a few of the added amenities that he has.
<1> ceo of suse :) ?
<5> anyone using the 64 bit version?
<0> no, of another company that I won't name drop hehe
<0> Death_Wish: nope, 32 here, unfortunately.
<1> i c
<2> Death_Wish: yse
<5> oh im trying to install xgl on the 64 but i got an error
<5> libcrypto.so not availble and others like that
<5> how do i fix that?
<2> you have to install some compat packages from 10.1
<5> explain i always used gentoo
<5> or should i just get the 32 bit?
<1> u go to warwick, benJIman?
<2> indeed
<2> why do you ask?
<0> if your running a 64bit cpu, you should use 64bit packages whenever you can...
<0> Death_Wish: the compatibility packages can be found here: http://www.suse.de/~mhopf/xgl/
<1> just curious
<0> I'd recommend thoroughly, and I mean THOROUGHLY reading this page too: http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux
<1> warwick seems to have a good reputation in quantative finance
<0> one single small detail tripped me up for 10 hours.
<2> I wouldn't know, I do CS
<6> Hello, can somebody tell me which module I shall load for an Initio/Advansys SCSI-Controller? It is a simple 50-Pin SCSI controller with an ASC3030 chip. I want to connect a tape drive there.
<1> quantative finance is basically programming:)
<1> only, you program investment strategies:)
<1> instead of kernels or smth:)
<2> http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/about/webcam/ what warwick looks like at the moment
<5> whats it mean "Installation source not refreshed"?
<2> probably a communication error with the mirror
<5> oh ok
<0> benJIman: cam image is timing out
<2> works here
<0> i'm sure it looks beautiful this time of year
<2> doesn't work in konqueror for some reason
<0> ahhhhhh.
<0> thats why
<1> total startup time in dynamic loader: 326413721 clock cycles
<1> CRAZY
<0> benJIman: neat :)
<1> 320 million cycles to load konqueror
<1> hmm
<1> total startup time in dynamic loader: 737259369 clock cycles
<1> and on my machine its crazier
<1> almost a billion cycles:)
<0> how can you check that?
<1> total startup time in dynamic loader: 737259369 clock cycles
<1> oops
<1> LD_DEBUG=statistics DISPLAY= konqueror
<5> is it possible to update from 10.0 to 10.1 beta 9 without reinstalling?
<1> time needed to load objects: 332425511 clock cycles (45.0%)
<1> woah
<1> i could never even imagine you would need so many cycles
<0> total startup time in dynamic loader: 1654146726 clock cycles
<1> interesting
<1> my konq starts up 2 times faster?
<0> running an older 2.8Ghz P4
<1> thats cycles, anyway
<0> <shrugs>
<1> regardless of a cpu cycle is a cycle
<0> thats true
<0> are you running dual core?
<1> nope
<1> 32bit 3ghz p4
<0> whats your FSB?
<5> i have p4 ht 3.8ghz em64t
<1> i think its running at 400
<0> nah, probably 533 at least
<0> wonder why mine takes so much more clock cycles than yours
<1> i never really checked
<1> anyhow
<1> this is a pretty cool command
<0> lets try something else, like firefox
<1> im curious, how do u count cycles on windows
<1> that would be ultimate comparision of performance
<1> say windows firefox vs. linux firefox
<0> total startup time in dynamic loader: 3097360 clock cycles
<1> no way
<0> true, would tell how much tighter the code was
<6> Hi, is somebody with SCSI experience here? Searching for SCSI driver (SuSE10).
<0> laboom: sorry, not I
<0> damn torrents...stuck at 99.8 percent complete...
<1> total startup time in dynamic loader: 79465881 clock cycles
<7> hi all
<0> main: that was the startup time of firefox
<1> but this doesnt initialize screen
<1> of firefox?
<1> well, its preloaded on my pc
<1> hard to tell
<0> selam: hi
<0> man, wobbly windows never get old
<0> holy ****!
<0> my rabbit just jumped 3 1/2 feet over his baby gate into the room!
<0> christ!
<0> brb
<7> i install SuSE 10.0 and apache2 php5 apache_mod_php5, okay apache and php5 working but mod_php5 not read config file in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini... after i write a some paramateter in /etc/apache2/conf.d/php5.conf (php_admin_value include_path etc..) but i want to include a any file in /usr/share/php5/PEAR do not work (error: file not found, but file is here)
<0> selam: I don't do any php, sorry
<7> any idea this problem? (maybe a bugzilla link etc.?)
<7> h1ms ok.. i delete acl in /etc/fstab but not change anything
<1> od
<1> odd
<3> mmm i dont know why you would manually edit php5.conf
<1> 1.2 billion cycles to load krusader
<3> all it does is load the modules
<1> *billion* !
<8> cycles?
<8> take a normal unit, please
<7> becouse mod_php5 not read config file in /etc/php5/apache2/
<1> cycles is the best unit.
<3> selam: im not clear on what you did, what files did you edit?
<3> cos you dont add include paths to php5.conf
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