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<0> yaloki: Lookup failed: Error reading from site. java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
<1> SuSEhelp: oh, really
<2> mostly though we escape teh worst weather here, i mean were further north than moscow but with no where near the same amount of harsh weather
<1> cenuij: yeah, continental weather would be even worse
<2> some dumb sports commentator today saying that the england team would be fine as the weather will be cool in germany
<1> eh
<3> !chanel
<0> yaloki: Lookup failed: Error reading from site. java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
<2> oops
<2> i killed klibido with an nzb it didnt like :/
<1> klibido isn't exactly actively maintained
<2> ah the header numbers are all wrong :/
<1> a release every year or so..
<1> but probably worth reporting anyway ;)
<2> yeah but in some ways it's understandable, its not like usenet has evolved much over the years :)
<1> right ;)
<2> my first year at university, for some reason they suspended email privelages for the students
<2> i suspect it was maybe resource issues, m***ive expansion of student intake and a creaky old VMS cluster
<4> cenuij: what'd you use then, cell phones?
<2> chmtdist: well this is the good part, us geeks just told all the other students about usenet
<2> so we moved to a few groups there
<1> not a bad idea, a "run in xterm" KDE service: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40214
<4> ah
<2> and of course the other 'cultural' content on usenet was out in the open for all the studetns
<2> we pretty soon had email back
<4> did they block the 25 and 110 ports, or did they just not give email addys to the students?
<4> if they just didn't give email addys, I would have got an email elsewhere
<2> chmtdist: this was in mmm 88/89 email wasnt the everyday thing for students back then
<4> ah
<2> and computing resources were more expensive
<4> cenuij: I would use usenet , but I don't have a nntp server to connect to
<2> its one of the reasons i stay with my ISP, slightly more expensive but one of the few in the UK that still runs a decent usenet service
<4> cenuij: I mean, they have free email services for people, why not usenet?
<2> the single largest expense for an ISP is running a usenet service
<2> the bandwidth costs for keeping any kind of retention on a full set of usenet groups is enormous
<4> cenuij: I think google should start a usenet service (one that you can post stuff on, not google groups)
<4> I think that would be kewl
<2> yeah it would be useful :)
<4> well, until I have enough money to get a nntp server to connect to...
<4> on the other hand, my last day of school was today, I'll start working soon
<2> im against paying for external usenet service
<2> its like paying to use the internet twice
<4> I'm against paying for a lot of stuff
<4> but not everything
<2> information, it fights by itself to be free :)
<4> someone wanted me to pay them money so they would unjam a vending machine so I could purchase stuff in it.
<4> I will not pay for that :-|
<4> cenuij: say, I've not been using suse for long, and it seems to access my hd a lot. Are there any programs that are running all the time by default that take up a lot of hd access?
<2> 10.1?
<4> 10.0
<4> I'm upgrading soon
<4> once I get my damn ati drivers to work
<2> i cant think of anything in 10.0 that would access the hdd a lot, unless your running something that writes toa log frequently
<4> I'm using the reiserfs, does that access its journal often?
<1> chmtdist: yes
<2> yeah
<4> is there a way to "convert" filesystems?
<1> no
<4> or perhaps increase the hd commit time?
<5> how would I move a reiser partition?
<1> frb: "move" ?
<1> frb: explain
<5> right now, root is /dev/hda7 (extended), I want to move it to a primary
<4> frb: be careful moving whole partitions using only command-line progs
<1> LVM should be used, always ;)
<1> frb: mh.. that's going to be some tough fdisk'ing
<4> yaloki: enlighten me, I've never used lvm
<4> yaloki: what is it like, and why should I use it?
<5> how about resize reiser?
<2> parted will resize a reiser partition but it doesnt yet support moving the start boundary
<1> LVM (Logical Volume Manager) adds another layer on top of physical disks and partitions
<2> i successfully resized a reiser partition with parted a couple of weeks ago
<5> I could "move" a fat32 partition to the free space on a primary, then expand the reiser to take the whole extended (minus the swap partition)
<1> it manages PVs (Physical Volumes) and LVs (Logical Volumes)
<1> a logical volume can span different disks, they can be resized online, etc...
<1> and you use the logical volumes
<5> maybe I should just backup /home, and reinstall 10.1 from scratch
<1> when you're out of disk space, just buy and insert another disk, add it to LVM and you're done, your /home (or whatever) has more disk space
<4> yaloki: does it work on platforms other than x86ish, you keep mentioning "logical", as in the logical specific to x86s?
<2> the logical volume is an abstract stucture
<5> LVM is a bit overkill, it's a laptop
<5> I will never 'add' another disk
<4> ok
<4> thanks, yall
<5> is there a kde interface to fdisk?
<1> right, on a laptop it's overkill
<1> frb: nope
<1> chmtdist: has nothing to do with logical partitions of x86
<4> frb: well, there's a qt one, qtparted
<5> !pin qtparted
<0> frb: /suse/noarch/selflinux-0.12.1-2.noarch.rpm- verbose output - See http://hitme.resetbutton.de/cgi-bin/pintest.pl?searchstring=qtparted&version=10.0d_i386&type=cd&dl=ftp
<5> !pin bin/qtparted
<0> frb: No Results Found
<1> frb: AFAICR you even have parted/qtparted live CDs
<5> is there a smart what-requires foo?
<2> i | SUSE-Linux-10.1-online-inst-src | | parted | 1.6.25.1-15 | i586
<2> didnt locate it on the cd's
<1> frb: yes
<1> frb: smart query --requires=foo --show-channels
<1> frb: have a look at "smart query --help"
<5> yeah, I found that
<6> beware duders. look whats coming up. June(06) the 6th, 2006. 6 6 6
<7> parph: thats just simply stupid
<2> good job i follow a pagan calendar ;)
<6> lol
<5> maybe the christians will fall on the 6th
<1> yay!
<7> mornign yaloki
<7> and frb
<1> note, 060606 will never happen again
<1> hey nXOR
<7> it will
<1> nXOR: up so late, or up so early ?
<5> yo yo yo wazup homey g money chicken
<7> 06 06 3006
<7> and 4006
<7> and so on
<1> nah, by 3006 our grandgrandgrandgrandgrand*children will have managed to screw up the planet for good
<7> yaloki: havent left for bed yet
<1> me neither
<2> how can i access my console buffer?
<7> im going in a jiffy
<1> about time, the birds are going to start singing ;)
<2> i dont see anything exposed in dcop :/
<1> cenuij: don't think you can.. what are you trying to do ?
<2> yaloki: i want to write a small bash script to post the last X lines from my console buffer either into pastebin.com or into konversation
<1> ew
<1> don't think that's going to be possible
<1> there's a CLI pastebin client though
<1> I even have it as an RPM
<1> smart install pastebin ;)
<1> just noticed it's not built for 10.1 though
<1> will be avail for 10.1 in a few hours
<2> :) ok
<8> i am new to suse, can you use yast to install files like apt-get install in debian?
<1> !smart
<0> smart is a great package management frontend that supports many repository formats - more info on http://smartpm.org - The Guru build comes preloaded with Inst-Source, Non-OSS, Packman, Guru, and KDE supp repositories. Here is a spoon-fed howto: http://spinink.net/2006/05/20/installing-smart-package-manager/
<1> alan`: have a look at smart (see links above), better than apt-get
<2> i'll investigate accessing the buffer though, i mean there must be a buffer somewhere otherwise i wouldn't be able to scroll in konsole or yakuake
<8> i mean the yast stuff
<8> what can you do with it
<1> on 10.1, there's rug
<1> !rug
<0> http://en.opensuse.org/Examples_using_rug
<1> on 10.0, there's y2pmsh
<9> Hi everyone. Something went wrong with my system: I cannot type anything into text fields in Gnome. Is there a way to fix it ? Thanks
<1> dare I say...
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