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<0> how about rootkits ?
<1> the bottom line is that the little ****s that make the viruses, dont want to affect a few computers (linux) they want to affect MILLIONS. Its harder to get Linux box, and easier for a Winbox. SO...you take the path of least resistence and biggest bang
<2> There will be desktop linux viruses in the future. Same as they come to Max OS X now. But I'd guess it's years till then.
<1> yep
<3> maybe not viruii, but some other kind of threat
<4> not virii cant be
<2> minciNashu: to protect against rootkits, keep your system up to date. That basically means, let run the online updates. And use strong p***words. You should need nothing more.
<4> it take day too fix fault in linux not week like mac or windows dev cycle
<4> damn
<2> bill-barriere: that's a myth
<4> a week is what it take for use too roll a patch worldwide ggo wonder
<3> ppl think their little pr0n collection is enough to trigger attacks and stuff.. ppl attack servers, etc, not granpa desktop
<2> Wednesday's security alerts Posted Mar 1, 2006 19:07 UTC (Wed) by corbet
<4> no its fgreaking isnt
<2> Mandriva has updated gettext (temporary file vulnerabilities; this problem is from 2004).
<2> Red Hat has updated tar
<4> mandriva yeah right nice exemple
<3> no, dont give your credit card number to people
<4> aka_druid, so my number is ....
<2> bill-barriere: the bottomline is: just because it's Linux and/or open source, does not magically mean, that vulnerabilities are fixed instantly.
<3> ppl say hackers are attacking banks (aka phishing)... but if I have your account number, apssword and etc Im no cracking anything.. Im m,aking a legit access
<4> i mean that someone with a brain WILL fix it
<0> ok. i found this article on the web and i guess i'll forget about an av for suse 9.3 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
<2> I've seen vulnerabilites in Mozilla that were unfixed for years
<1> software development companiesa re all the same...you have bugs..and the ones that are the most detrimental you fix.. the others get pushed back until people dont complain anymore...then they are just purged until someone logs it again :)
<4> big chance we dont all think like you
<1> bill-barriere: sorry ive been in software development for 30 years and thats the way they work
<1> you might not like it...but its what happens :)
<0> how about spyware ?
<2> kkathman: that's exactly what I've experienced. Although I'm not as long out of school as you are.
<4> ... 30 year ago you guy programmed with punch card get over it your a relic
<1> ive never had one piece of spyware on a linux box :)
<4> fooooooof
<0> how do you know?
<1> dont be one of those idealistic morons, bill-barriere Wake up :)
<2> minciNashu: let me say it this way: in 7 years I now use Linux on my desktops, I've never had a single problem with any kind of malware. I had exactly one incidence on one of my servers and that was because an account named "backup" existed, with p***word "backup".
<4> that was foooooooddd
<4> be back later
<5> I love my Fiance. She just brought me Taco-Bell because she didnt think I had anything to eat around the house
<1> awwwwww
<1> thats nice :)
<6> [daemon], That's a keeper.
<5> She calls me and is like Im bringing you something
<5> Old--man: Amen lol
<5> Shes really sweet though. She looks out for me so much heh
<5> its funny because she knows EXACTLY how many and how to get what I like too lol
<6> Definitely a keeper
<5> :)
<6> When's the wedding?
<5> Old--man: Taco bell fan ?
<5> Looking at either this summer or early fall
<7> hi All
<6> Sounds good. Long engagements are IMO a bad idea
<5> Hello gar0t0
<5> Old--man: mine too, heh
<5> Juat gives time for something to go wrong
<8> does anyone know what midi format is?
<6> Music instrument digital (something I can't remember)
<5> a very low down format usually used by synthesizers, music only, and almost like an emulated instrument
<8> how do you play them?
<5> any player should play them by default
<6> I would ***ume most media players can handle the format
<2> At least they used to, back when it was pretty common
<5> i mean even so most of them still play it, even though its not a popular or even widely used format
<5> mplayer should play it, and i believe Amarok will
<3> I dont think amarok and mplayer plays midi
<3> its not old format.. musicians use it
<3> and ppl who uses computer to make music
<7> aka_druid_: ajuda eu la no -br :) ?
<1> aka_druid: midi is the language of computerized music in fact :)
<5> aka_druid: actually speaking in terms of how old the format is, it is in fact old ;)
<9> grrr OOo takes for ever to start... like several minutes on my desktop
<9> !search office
<10> Matching factoids: openoffice;
<9> !openoffice
<10> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/projects/OpenOffice.org
<5> Heya sPiN: Hows it goin man ?
<9> i installed the latest version from there on my 64bit desktop...
<11> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI
<1> heya sPiN :)
<9> hey [Dameon], its going pretty ****ing well man, hope you are doing well
<3> what was funny was those mod files hehe
<3> with axel foley theme hah
<5> sPiN: yah its going good, whats up? Anything I may be able to help with ?
<9> howedy kkathman, aka_druid
<3> lo sPiN
<9> [Dameon], just trying to figure out whey OOo takes so damn long to start... i first installed it via yast, which got me 1.9something but then when i would try to do the online update to get 2.0, it did nothing! i left it over night and it never even made it to 1% and ive done it before, did it on the laptop and it was fine
<5> Open office loves to start slow lol
<9> i tried several update sources, same thing for all of them...
<5> sPiN: for open office, I would never recommend installed rather than from the site itself
<5> installing rather*
<9> i have disabled OOo preload on both machines, and yet my laptop starts it up in a resonable amt of time, but the desktop takes for ever! and i noticed they have different splash screens
<5> the one you got from yast: will be suse branded
<9> now that i haven tried, i figured these nice novell made packages would be best for me, but i might just have to try that
<5> if you download from the site it will be the openoffice.org splash
<1> ok all you Mac people...this is for you: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6553260189868317794
<0> HELP: i read somewhere that linux is better cause it's not based on ***embler code as windows. what does it mean ?
<5> lol
<6> I don't even know how to begin to respond to that.
<5> Windows is coded in an environment where all the code is managed. (C# for example is a managed language)
<9> yeah really
<5> While it provides certain benefits (less memory leaks, and such) it is rather slow and drawn out on even basic operations
<5> Linux however uses the Kernel as the basis of their system
<5> which is definately not in a managed language, and therefore, yes you will have application performance superceding that of windows and its managed code
<2> [Dameon]: where did you read that in Windows all code is managed? Windows does not even use .NET. It's purely an addon
<5> niner: Ive heard that the actual windows coding is managed
<6> minciNashu, The short answer is: What you heard is incorrect on several levels. Except for the part about Linux being better (and even that has qualifications)
<2> [Dameon]: you should listen to other sources :) Windows is written mostly in C and ***embler, just like Linux for example, or most operating systems.
<6> ***embler: Very low level language. Comprised of hex codes, and short instructions. one step above machine language (binary). Almost nothing is written in ***embler these days.
<5> ah then my bad
<5> Windows is just bad, switch to linux
<0> HELP: could i get benefits if i customize a kernel for my box ?
<5> better?
<9> minciNashu, you would not even come close to compiling your own kernel, so id just forget about that
<5> minciNashu: yes, if done properly, but it is definately not the easiest thing to do, especially for a beginner
<2> minciNashu: you could maybe. But in most cases it's not worth the h***le. I used to do it back in the old days. But nowaday's I just use SUSE's
<5> lol @ sPiN
<5> I did it sPiN ;) First one yesterday
<0> hey. i can compile a kernel!
<6> minciNashu, A custom compiled kernel optimized for your hardware will give you some incremental performance and memory benefits. You're unlikely to notice them however.
<9> ive compiled a lot of kernels and i couldnt begin to guess how many i tried before i got one that actually booted
<5> sPiN: my fist one actually booted believe it or not
<9> you have to know your hardware inside and out
<5> Glad I built my pc myself lmao
<9> yeah that helps for sure
<5> then theres Dell, who doesnt even know what they put in the case lmao
<0> of course i know my pc's specs
<9> specs dont cut it
<5> minciNashu: specs and hardware information are not gonna cut it whatsoever
<9> you have to know what chips are on your harware
<6> minciNashu, Yes it's possible to do. There is no practical reason to do it in 99.999% of cases.
<2> Compiling a kernel is pretty easy nowadays. You just have to know what chipsets your hardware uses. But it doesn't gain you anything, unless you know that it does. And if you know, you have probably compiled many kernels before.
<12> bash blah.bin
<5> Only reason I did it, is because I wanted a newer kernel
<12> bzw. ./blah.bin
<9> [Dameon], could you not just used a KOTD one?
<2> sPiN: maybe there was no KOTD back then ;)
<5> sPiN: wouldnt work bro, it required some new perl-bootloader, which required a new perl, and all in all the dependencies wouldnt sort out without rendering something useless
<13> good morning peoples
<5> And even the ones from kotd, for suse10 you had to compile yourself
<5> so I figured, might as well just compile 2.6.15.4
<5> fixed some ndiswrapper usb missing messages and such when installing too, so I guess i did something right, Kernel stabke so far for 18 1/2 hours
<13> [Dameon] you actually got it to work on your first shot, congrats
<5> Thak you Sholto, and Good morning! :)
<5> like spin said though, you gotta know your hardware, and thats what saved me I think
<13> yeah I couldnt do it on my machine, its a damn Dell, so I just keep getting the updates from YOU
<5> lol I made a comment about that earlier
<13> All three of the systems in this house are Dell
<5> <5> then theres Dell, who doesnt even know what they put in the case lmao
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