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<0> twkm, are you around?
<1> sort of.
<0> im still trying to sort out this imap issue.
<0> bas username or p***word
<0> ive got back to using uw-imap
<1> did you have another question? or just keeping me up to date?
<2> :)
<0> twkm,
<0> still here?
<0> i have created a normal user "useradd username" and they can authenticate fine.
<0> ldap users cannot authenticate..
<3> On my openbsd server trying to do "mail rutski89@gmail.com" fails to send mail
<3> and i really can't figure out why
<3> can somebody please help me?
<3> the logs show no errors, there's even an (k4F4JPKa017363 Message accepted for delivery) line
<4> to where?



<3> thrig: I'm trying to send a mail from an openbsd box on my local network to my gmail account.
<4> where did the k4F4JPKa017363 message go to? what server?
<3> what do you mean? how would I find out?
<5> "rutski89" at 68.198.111.53 pasted "Logs On A Message" (3 lines, 692B) at http://sial.org/pbot/17195
<3> thrig: that's the full log about the message
<3> I don't really know how to analyze sendmail logs yet, but nothing looks wrong there; no errors so far as I can see.
<4> okay, what does 'mailq' show?
<5> "rutski89" at 68.198.111.53 pasted "mailq" (15 lines, 1K) at http://sial.org/pbot/17196
<3> ahh, connection timed out
<3> I wonder why
<3> any ideas?
<3> thrig: nothing? really?
<3> nobody even has a clue?
<3> or is there just nobody here at the moment?
<6> greylisting, perhaps?
<6> ermm, that was accepted for deliverey by 127.0.0.1, not by a gmail server
<6> can you send mail anywhere else? (might be your ISP doing egress filtering)
<3> Hydrogenum: dunno, can't imagine why.
<3> Hydrogenum: did you see the output from my running "mailq"?
<3> I really don't understand mail, not once have I ever gotten anything having to do with mail to work
<7> hi :) using sendmail, how to i get all messages to root to be forwarded to a different email address?
<7> nm :)
<7> found it ...
<8> hi
<8> someone is using LDAP for aliases?
<9> people, please help me with email forwarding
<9> i have created a .forward file in the home directory of the user 'user1' with only one line 'newuser1'
<9> then i sent a mail from user2 to user1
<9> i expected that the user 'newuser1' would receive the mail
<9> however, the mail was delivered to the user 'user1'.
<9> what am i doing wrong?
<0> case_h99, no, but i need help also
<0> where are u up 2?
<8> what?
<0> ldap + sendmail
<0> i have a populated ldap db, users can receive mail & store in home dir, i cant pop or imap them off though
<0> twkm, havent made any progress :(
<10> mailertable
<10> you need it in mailertable
<9> _sho_: was that for me?
<10> no. you never asked a question while i was in channel
<10> it was for paolino
<0> can anyone help me out with some basic pam ldap authentication
<0> i just need uw-imap to be able to authenticate those users
<9> ok, np
<10> sendro: uw-imap != sendmail, and neither does pamldap
<10> you trying to do smtpauth?
<1> _sho_: then why is -Ac a mystery?
<10> because _when_
<10> not what
<10> what differentiates sendmail calling submit.cf over sendmail.cf
<1> for daemon modes sendmail chooses sendmail.cf unless -C or -Ac is used.
<1> for submission modes sendmail uses submit.cf unless -C or -Am is used.
<10> right. but what are the conditions for it calling submit?
<10> is submit only called when sendmail is being called for the first time on a message?
<11> uh ,this means sendmail will not refuse mails for a specific address ?
<1> uh. it is being used to submit a message.
<10> right, thats the thought. but then, is submit.cf called when sendmail is merely relaying a message?
<1> paolino: look at the blacklist_recipients section of cf/README -- is that what you need?
<1> _sho_: config files are not "called".



<11> I go and see
<1> _sho_: sendmail uses submit.cf whenever it is being run to cause a message from stdin to be sent somewhere.
<10> _ah_
<10> so its ONLY from stdin?
<10> what about a perl script which communicates via smtp
<1> _sho_: as sendmail/SECURITY says, yes.
<10> is that considered to be coming from stdin from sendmails perspective?
<1> The .cf file is chosen based on the operation mode. For -bm (default),
<1> -bs, and -t it is submit.cf (if it exists) for all others it is
<1> sendmail.cf. This selection can be changed by -Ac or -Am (alternative
<1> .cf file: client or mta).
<10> what im trying to do is ensure that all mail originating from this server is not miltered by mimedefang
<10> right now submit.cf is almost a clone of sendmail.cf
<1> except for the milters, i ***ume. that might work.
<10> id like to trim it waaaay down, but just want to make sure i properly understand whats going on there
<10> ok, from some testing it looks like sendmail runs through submit when called via sendmail -t -i (but not pure smtp through perl), which is fine by me. do you know if initial relay requests from mail clients are considered stdin?
<10> i cant seem to get a really conclusive answer from my testing
<1> "initial relay"? what do you feel that is?
<1> anyway, any client that invokes the sendmail binary will use submit.cf.
<10> ok, cool
<1> any client that uses smtp to talk to the mta will thus use whatever cf was provided to the mta when it started, default is sendmail.cf.
<10> so i can at least trim, but probably not eliminate, extra crap
<10> thanks for the clarification
<10> i had been seeing two different behaviors from two different clients, and didnt understand, but now i do. :)
<11> twkm: do I have to modify the access file to refuse mails for a specific address ?
<11> I'm confused
<1> paolino: yes.
<1> To:baduser@ ERROR:550 User is taking a timeout
<11> aren't those the addresses of the senders ?
<1> uh, To:... so, no it isn't the sender.
<11> ah
<11> should put an example with a To: there :)
<1> they do.
<1> If you use:
<1> FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')
<1> then you can add entries to the map for local users, hosts in your
<1> domains, or addresses in your domain which should not receive mail:
<1> To:badlocaluser@ ERROR:550 Mailbox disabled for badlocaluser To:host.my.TLD ERROR:550 That host does not accept mail To:user@other.my.TLD ERROR:550 Mailbox disabled for this recipient
<11> right, sorry
<1> This would prevent a recipient of badlocaluser in any of the local domains (cl*** {w}), any user at host.my.TLD, and the single address user@other.my.TLD from
<1> receiving mail. Please note: a local username must be now tagged with an @ (this is consistent with the check of the sender address, and hence it is possible to distinguish between hostnames and usernames). Enabling this feature will keep you from sending mails to all addresses that have an error message or REJECT as value part in the access map.
<11> twkm: where should I write FEATURE('blacklist_recipients') ?
<1> in your mc file, of course.
<11> it's already there
<1> then i guess you don't need to reconfigure in order for a To:user@domain ERROR entry in your access map to "work".
<11> still it stops all the mails to root
<11> whatever domains
<1> show the access map line.
<11> To:root@kelissa.net REJECT
<1> and that is stopping mail to root@notkelissa ?
<11> 128> echo | mail root@localhost
<11> /etc/mail [paolino@kelissa][14:05 Mon 15 May] 1
<11> yes
<1> well, that showed nothing useful.
<11> ok I tail the log then
<1> if kelissa.net is in local-host-names it is probably being rewritten so it then matches localhost. try test mode and see what "3,0 root@localhost" vs "3,0 root@kelissa.net" produce.
<0> _sho_, are you there
<0> twkm, oh ur here
<0> twkm, i changed /etc/pam.d/imap also pop to use pam_ldap
<0> May 15 22:08:20 node1 ipop3d[10945]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "uid=asender,ou=People,dc=differentialdesign,dc=org" (Invalid credentials)
<0> twkm, any ideas?
<11> twkm: I don't know test mode :/. kelissa.net is in that file.Where should I put it instead ?
<1> paolino: that's up to you, but i tend to put them into a virtual-domains file which i load into the {VirtHost} cl***.
<1> sendro: sorry, i'm tired and that's not sendmail. in general i suggest you debug the ldap part of that issue.
<11> mmhh , I have to study sendmail for this.Thanks
<0> twkm, is that the right thing to do change pam.d/imap to use pam
<1> since you want to use map it seems sensible.
<1> err, use pam.
<12> Hello All
<12> I need to know that is it possible to restrict the recipient by providing their email ID information??
<13> hiya.
<13> how would i modify procmailrc to allow email through if its from a specific domain, and not send it to spamd?
<14> morning all
<14> i created a user account for mail and the user can send mail just fine


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