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<0> It can be mail?
<1> depends on whether mail is already used on your system, and for which tasks
<0> It is only owner of /var/spool/mail
<0> Bleh. I will setup it on some test machine first.
<0> Hell alot of email is bouncing.
<2> Anyone around ?
<3> usually.
<2> G'day. Using sendmail, would you know how to block people on my mail system from sending to a certain email address?
<0> Hmz
<0> 454 4.3.3 TLS not available: error generating SSL handle
<0> :>
<0> What have I fu* up?
<0> I checked permissions and pathes to certs...
<0> It worked yesterday dangit. ;>
<1> look at your mail log
<1> increase the log_level if needed



<0> Feb 7 00:09:14 platinum sm-mta[8551]: STARTTLS=server: 8551:error:140BA0C3:SSL routines:SSL_new:null ssl ctx:ssl_lib.c:231:
<0> Ah...
<0> ;]
<0> That's the sendmail...cert files had too loose permisions.
<1> "I checked permissions" ;/
<0> Well. I checked if it can read the file.
<0> I didn't knew that if permissions will be too high it will just send me to hell.
<0> ;]
<1> that is basic knowledge - there are even switches to be less restrictive
<1> other software too refuses to work when some of its files are insecure
<1> like openssh itself
<0> I forgot about that.
<1> it looks like you are fighting at more than 1 end
<0> I don't underestand...?
<1> i mean you are trying to configure several things at once
<1> not just one by one
<4> i **** at sendmail
<4> what does this mean?
<4> sendmail: ./k16Kcroh011139 smtp.esbie.com.: user open
<4> it's from ps ax
<4> does that mean an email is beind delivered from smtp.esbie.com
<4> ?
<5> EHLO
<4> greets
<5> im having a little problem.,,
<5> Feb 7 00:23:51 velx sm-mta[9725]: k16NNpMP009724: forward /home/cilsh/.forward.mail+: World writable
<5> Feb 7 00:23:51 velx sm-mta[9725]: k16NNpMP009724: forward /home/cilsh/.forward+: World writable dire
<5> Feb 7 00:23:51 velx sm-mta[9725]: k16NNpMP009724: forward /home/cilsh/.forward.mail: World writable
<5> Feb 7 00:23:51 velx sm-mta[9725]: k16NNpMP009724: forward /home/cilsh/.forward: World writable direc
<5> and he cant receive mails :<
<5> any1 got any idea whay that pops up?
<1> fix the permission
<5> if i dont have a .forward folder then?
<1> any dir in / /home/ /home/cilsh is world writable
<5> hmmm
<1> does not matter not having a .forward, it is looked for anyway
<5> okay so some dir in / is chmodded wrong?
<5> thats strange coz i can receive mails on that server...
<1> yes, so i said
<5> a think i found the fault
<1> even the error message is verbose and clear
<5> drwxrwxrwx 11 root root 1032 Feb 7 00:26 cilsh
<5> drwxr-xr-x 5 mef users 176 Feb 6 23:22 mef
<1> args!
<1> that is bad
<5> yep, :P
<1> give user homes not more that 711
<1> 700 should be fine generally
<1> 755 is too much as other users can move into the others home and spy
<5> hmm okey
<5> i changed it do 711
<5> and now i get
<5> Feb 7 00:28:43 velx sm-mta[9748]: k16NShb5009747: forward /home/cilsh/.forward.mail+: Permission denied
<5> Feb 7 00:28:43 velx sm-mta[9748]: k16NShb5009747: forward /home/cilsh/.forward+: Permission denied
<5> Feb 7 00:28:43 velx sm-mta[9748]: k16NShb5009747: forward /home/cilsh/.forward.mail: Permission denied
<5> Feb 7 00:28:43 velx imapd: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]
<5> :P
<3> keep checking.
<3> look at /, /home, /home/cilsh.forward.mail+, /home/cilsh.forward.mail and /home/cilsh.forward+
<5> those doesnt exist.
<3> ls -ld / /home /home/cilsh/.forward*



<5> velx home # ls -ld / /home /home/cilsh/.forward*
<5> ls: /home/cilsh/.forward*: No such file or directory
<5> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 536 Jan 27 20:03 /
<5> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 192 Aug 7 2005 /home
<3> and you are sure you fixed /home/cilsh?
<3> oh, ~cilsh isn't owned by cilsh, that can be a problem too.
<4> i think i have a sendmail config working now, but i'm trying to learn what i'm seeing in "ps ax"
<4> 0:00 sendmail: ./k16ECsKP005109 resalehost.networksolutions.com.: user open
<3> kreg_work: probably mail going out and coming in.
<4> this for example
<5> ps aux |grep sendmail
<5> ;O
<0> Zerberus: I usually do several things at once. I am trying to make a masterpiece out of my mail server.
<0> ;]
<1> not that clever
<4> so,
<4> sendmail can send mail. and it apparently can recieve mail
<0> Zerberus: Are you saying I am stupid? ;>
<1> no :)
<0> Good. ;-)
<1> just not clever to change a lot of things at one time and facing the effects and not exactly knowing which change caused it
<0> I love sendmail, and all the exim and qmail people hates me for that.
<0> ;]
<0> I knew what change caused what.
<1> ok
<0> :-)
<0> Anyway, everyone knows sendmail can go wild.
<0> ;]
<6> hi there, id like to auth to my sendmail through my email-account name, rather than the mail-user name, any possibilities?
<6> does anyone at least get what i want to do?
<7> If I add an alias to the aliases file, will an mbox be created for that alias or do I have to create a system account too?
<8> Maybe "virtualuser" is what you need then.
<7> I'll go check it out - thanks Rado
<8> Otherwise you might try to send things to "| blabla > file".
<9> hey guys, I keep trying to makemap hash.. and I keep getting permission denied
<10> oh, no!
<9> oh yes
<9> tell me why :)
<1> you are not root or the permissions do not match else
<9> i am root..
<9> whoami
<9> root
<10> who owns the mapped files, and what user is Sendmail set to run as?
<9> map file I just created on root... and I am just makemap for the client-info for smtp auth.
<9> makemap hash client-info < /etc/mail/client-info
<1> ntengineer22: did you strace the call? :)
<9> Well, jumpting to another topic, I just checked the log and this is what I am getting
<9> Feb 7 10:55:54 ell173 sendmail[3518]: k17FtsMZ003518: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=32533, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
<9> does that mean it is fine?
<11> hi
<11> I have installed sendmail on my machine, and everytime I send a mail, it's impossible to pop it, it stays in /var/spool/mqueue/
<11> does anyone know the reason ?
<11> I've seen that sendmail -q would send the mail in queue, but it doesn't work for me
<11> (and when I type "mailq" on my mailserver I can see every messages)
<11> I use popper to pop my mails
<9> hey guys, any clue of this?
<9> sendmail.mc:73: m4: Cannot open /usr/share/sendmail-cf/feature/.m4: No such file or directory
<9> ?
<9> I am trying to m4 sendmail.mc > sendmail.cf
<10> does sendmail.mc reference cf.m4 properly? Most vendors supply a Makefile to ease rebuilding
<11> noone is able to answer me please ?
<10> kernel: any errors listed in the output of mailq or the system logs?
<1> ntengineer22: install the sendmail-cf package
<9> got it working,.. bad '
<9> thanks
<12> thank you for the sial.org link, it solved my problem :-)
<13> hey anyone knows what I can use to tell my MTA/MDA that any messages comming to @domain.com should go to @domain.com and also to @backup.domain.com ?
<10> duplicating e-mail would require a milter or custom ruleset
<10> or maybe some procmail hackery, depending
<13> I can't find a milter that has good docs on how to do that .. they all talk about spam and viruses
<10> MIMEDefang could do that
<10> or an "add BCC" type of milter, perhaps
<13> I thought about using procmail/MiMEdefang/TMDA but can't find instruction on how to do so
<13> you think I could use some sort of double relay /mailertable ... ?


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