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<0> exit
<1> how do i check for the presence of sdl using autotools?
<2> again about autotools ?
<1> whose up
<2> me
<1> hello me
<1> what are you working on
<2> graph theory
<2> exam tommorow
<2> only 7 hours left
<3> and you're on IRC
<2> i idle mostly
<2> i feel very lonely and reply sometimes
<1> graph theory huh
<1> that use to be one of my pet projects ages ago
<2> yea well im doing this http://www.math.uni-hamburg.de/home/diestel/books/graph.theory/GraphTheoryIII.pdf



<1> i use to work for oil pipe line companies ... very useful
<1> graph theory
<2> so what did you use from it ?
<2> flows,minimum spanning trees ?
<1> i never really used it
<1> i never got a chance to
<1> at the time i was curious about it my programming skills ****ed
<2> its a very good tool
<2> but you have to learn it mathematically first
<2> then apply it in programming
<2> because vice-versa leads nowhere
<1> spx2 yeah
<4> !mirrors
<5> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187344 and Linux distros can be used as SDL mirrors: tinyurl.com/27lyls
<6> !mirrors
<5> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187344 and Linux distros can be used as SDL mirrors: tinyurl.com/27lyls
<3> seems the bot is helpful :)
<6> aye
<6> :)
<1> how do i check for sdl in an autoconf project
<3> erm
<3> I'd be surprised if there isn't an sdl thingy to put on autoconf
<7> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/photos/wrk/week7/ :)
<3> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
<1> babies!
<4> http://www.mi.sanu.ac.yu/vismath/rojas/Image71.gif
<3> ...wtf!
<4> so now you know!
<4> do you know sdljava?
<3> I don't know a word of Java
<4> What do you know?
<3> do you want a braindump or what?
<8> !mirrors
<5> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187344 and Linux distros can be used as SDL mirrors: tinyurl.com/27lyls
<3> I wish that was possible, to make brain backups
<1> java is a four lette word
<4> hehe
<3> black_13: so are 'four' and 'word', so what
<4> yeah then you oculd take as much smack as you wanted to and then just reset it if you end up stupid
<1> oh man i hit a nerve
<3> err not exactly
<3> if you damage hardware, you're screwed :P
<1> i hate java is the clearer
<1> that
<4> PovAddict: i dont think you can make a distinction between hardware and software within the brain
<3> ok, then backups are impossible
<3> if you can't make a distinction between hardware and software within the brain, then restoring the backup should restore broken or dead nerves
<4> or are they... just requers some really fine tuned surgery
<3> or better just dont take alcohol or drugs
<4> you tend to choose the easier... slacker
<3> what is slack?
<4> hey youre the addict here
<3> huh
<1> PovAddict how about "java joke with no punchline" ?
<9> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/gimbals.html
<9> haha
<9> NASA used Euler in their inertia system for the Apollo 11.
<9> And (almost) got gimbal lock during the moon mission.
<10> Oh man.



<10> Wow.
<9> "104:59:35 Garriott: Columbia, Houston. We noticed you are maneuvering very close to gimbal lock. I suggest you move back away. Over."
<9> Priceless.
<9> blank: There are similar stories which is even more fun.
<9> Like shuttle accidents who were caused by floating point errors and NaNs
<10> Yeah, but this is my first time hearing about them having a gimlock problem.
<9> Weird that they didn't use quaternions.
<3> they should use DX10's physics stuff
<3> ...for a sure failed mission
<10> <carmack> I wouldn't use DX10 for space missions. I would use DX9 and an Xbox 360.
<1> i have notice that you cant download the dx9 devel suite from ms
<10> Is the december SDK DX10?
<10> Ah, so it is.
<1> how do i use AM_PATH_SDL in an autoconf project?
<11> blank: It contains both dx10 and dx9, which it has for a couple of releases now.
<11> SDL builds fine against it.
<4> where can i find precompiled SDL_gfx?
<11> For what platform?
<4> win
<11> 1>c1 : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '..\..\..\documents and settings\james\desktop\sdl_gfx-2.0.3\SDL_framerate.c': No such file or directory
<11> Hahaha... now that's a quality project file =)
<4> hehe i got the same :D
<4> stupid james! :D
<11> The project file is just XML though, so just edit it.
<4> i did but then it started complaining about the resource files
<4> isn't it just easier to provide precompiled dlls instead of vs projects?
<11> I seem to be missing the _lrint symbol.
<4> everyhitng is james fault :(
<11> You tend to want to have your library compiled with the exact same setup as your other projects.
<1> who is james>
<4> Zao: yes why not?
<11> nom_s: You want the same CRT, as well as there can be ABI differences between VS versions.
<11> Not to mention that you can easily recompile in the future when the author has abandoned the project and new compiler versions are out.
<4> Zao: i dont follow you, i dont need them for vs at all i need them for sdljava
<11> Ah, lrint is C99. Kind of explains why it didn't work in Visual Studio =)
<4> Zao: what does it work in then?
<11> Visual Studio only does C89. I just wrote a lrint myself instead.
<4> Zao: youre wise
<4> Zao: gettin a hold of it?
<11> nom_s: http://www.acc.umu.se/~zao/SDL_gfx-2.0.15-VC80.zip
<11> Your results may vary =)
<11> Compiled against SDL-1.2.11
<4> Zao: thanx! ;D
<11> There's a scary amount of warnings when compiling that library.
<4> same error :(
<4> must be something else
<4> hehe, renamed it to sdl_gfx.dll
<4> now it works many thanks
<12> I want to write a cpu responsible event loop. How can I sleep and wait for events, but guarantee that I get a slice ever 500ms?
<12> I would just use SDL_Delay, but I don't want to have to wait if an event actually happens.
<13> overengineering
<3> Nuxi: I use SDL_AddTimer, and make the callback send me back a user event
<3> and render when I get the event
<12> ok
<3> and then, well, SDL_WaitEvent :)
<12> when I use SDL_PushEvent, does it copy the event, or do I need to use malloc and then free it when I get the event?
<3> I think it's copied
<12> So it should be safe to use the same event structure over and over to push events.
<3> I got mine from an example on documentation
<3> http://rafb.net/p/LeWWFM90.html
<12> ok thanks
<14> hiya
<1> what do i need to do to get my autoconf project "configure.ac" to check for the presence of opengl/sdl libraries on my system?
<15> hi
<15> i am trying to link to sdl statically and it seems to be impossible
<15> has someone here done that?
<13> yes
<15> can you help me with that?
<15> my problem is if im linking to the multithreaded runtimer i get linker errors from the sdl main object
<15> im using vs8
<15> and im getting either a msvcrt vs libcmt conflict or if i exclude msvcrt he complains about missing symbols
<13> no experience with vs


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