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<0> umm, how do I delete a user?
<1> deluser?
<1> userdel?
<2> yes?
<2> heh
<0> yeah
<2> :P
<0> deluser doesn't work but userdel does. That's weird
<2> no it's not
<2> deluser doesn't exist
<1> isn't there both adduser and useradd?
<2> possibly
<0> yes, those both work
<2> some distros have both (typically they are just symlinks or whatnot, that point to useradd/userdel)
<0> I know ubuntu has both
<2> personally I think it's retarded :)



<2> cause for confusion and whatnot :P
<0> when I log in as root, it says I have new mail
<0> where do I access it?
<2> congratulations
<2> haha
<1> mail
<2> /var/mail/spooler ?
<2> some crap :P
<1> just type mail
<1> guessing at commands is fun
<2> pfft, sissy :P
<1> >:-|
<1> mail is *harder* than vi /var/spool/mail/root
<2> haha
<2> ed!
<1> seriously
<2> bah
<1> who would guess that you can delete the message and read the next one with the command "dn"?
<2> it's logical?
<2> (circa 1969)
<2> :P
<1> or yuo can append to a file with s +filename
<3> are 386 and 586 rpms interchangable?
<1> nym: on a 586 they are...
<2> haha
<3> thanks
<2> nym: think of it this way, x86 rpms are [in general] backwards compatible.
<2> so on 686, all previous arch versions should work :P
<2> speaking of which...
<3> cheers Hydrogenum / Daveman
<2> :)
<4> I'm new to redhat, how to I install packages, I'm used to apt-get
<5> what release are you using? cat /etc/redhat-release
<4> sarge
<4> or the newest one
<5> er, release of Red Hat. sarge is a debian release. Red Hat is a company. They make releases of different families of distributions.
<1> rofl
<6> where is the humor?
<1> you joined ;)
<1> well, that and the response to "cat /etc/redhat-release"? was "sarge"
<1> it's always fun when newbs think they can trick us :)
<6> HAHAHAHA
<6> I had a special invite to come in here
<1> well, you're a "special" person
<6> Hydrogenum: where do I know you from? fedora?
<5> and this is a "special" place.
<6> an ***ociate of mine described it as such: i'ts the landing place of lost souls, looking for a proper destination. It's like pergator
<5> +y
<6> yup +y
<6> copy and paste had a small snack
<7> greetings
<7> anyone here have experience using large hard drives in a USB enclosure under linux?
<5> sgniteerg
<5> jshriver: define 'large'.
<7> 200gig
<5> sure.
<7> here is my problem
<7> http://channels.debian.net/paste/1782.
<7> for the dmesg info
<6> f13: are we nice in here?



<7> any help is appreciated.. tried a couple channels.. but hitting a wall...some pointers though
<7> not sure if it's the driver, or if my enclosure is messing up..
<1> donavan: no
<5> donavan: mostly.
<1> donavan: we tell them to go to #rhel, to #fedora, or to upgrade and then go away
<7> I noticed it's trying to use 512byte sectors.. and it needs to be 2k sectors for drives a little under 256gigs
<7> lol
<5> jshriver: so here is the fun questions. What release of Red Hat software are you using, what kernel, etc...
<7> running Debian.. 2.6.15.1 kernel... my question is more kernel related so should apply to any distro.. linux is linux
<6> s/is/are/
<6> but it's not
<5> jshriver: yes and no.
<7> hrm
<1> donavan: the best part is when we get people in here that aren't even using redhat...
<7> thought the only diff was how things where laid out and the package manager
<5> jshriver: kernel is a kernel until a vendor adds patches, integrates userland, etc, etc, etc....
<7> sorry Hydrogenum I used RH for 5 years if it helps :)
<7> well using vanilla source from kernel.org
<6> Hydrogenum: there are distros other than redhat?
<7> I dont use the debian kernels
<5> jshriver: if only. Even the compiler used can durasticly change the way a kernel works, and the problems ***ociated.
<1> donavan: yeah, but they all ****
<6> jshriver: that sounds like a #gentoo question, back up the hall
<1> donavan: but check out #windows and #osx for some other distros ;)
<7> hrm.. :(
<7> the best thing I've come across.. is that I might need to change lilo.conf and p*** it some kind of magical values for SCSI.. but no idea what they are or what to change
<7> so the kernel can give the right vals to the SCSI modules
<7> the large disk howto seems kinda dated, and mostly for old systems trying to get 8+gig on IDE working
<5> jshriver: well the fun thing is, I've plugged 200+ gig drives into Red Hat releases progressing from RHL9 through FC4, every single one has seen the drive just fine.
<6> f13: you have as of yet to make my usb2.0 enclosure operate at high speed though...
<7> hrm.. maybe it's just my enclosure then.. it's supposed to support up to 400gigs though, and haven't had any problems with it w/ other HD's.. but Ive never tried one this big before in USB
<6> (on a RH/FC kernel)
<5> donavan: -ENOTMYJOB
<6> LMAO
<6> other comments in the other common channel
<7> guess the best question to ask is... what parameters do I need to give lilo to p*** to the kernel so it handles 200gig SCSI emulated USB drives :)
<6> something is horked up in the RH usb subsystem anyway
<5> jshriver: as I said, with RH based distros, no params needed. The system just does the right thing.
<7> wonder how it does it then...
<5> jshriver: so, I can't really help you because it shouldn't be broken if you were using a RH based distro.
<1> it's automagic
<7> can you check your lilo.conf to see if there is any "append sda blah blah"
<1> dd141218
<1> ermm, never mind that p***word... :-|
<6> lilo.conf was depracated back in the 90's
<7> does REdhat do recursive package handling? The big reason I had switched after using RH for 5 years, I was tired of having to chase down a dozen dependency's in rpm.... went to debian mostly beacuse of the apt tools and telling it "I want package X" and it was smart enough to get X and all deps.. and all deps of deps for me...
<7> grub ?
<5> jshriver: rpm handles it just as well as dpkg.
<8> i know jshriver that. :)
<5> jshriver: those are the comparable entities.
<7> *bangs head into wall* lol
<7> ok
<5> jshriver: however, Red Hat based distros do have higher level tools, such as yum, that compare to things such as apt-get
<8> any one know where to get rh9 up2date packages. the latest i mean all of them
<5> jshriver: in fact, rpm can be said to be even more advanced than dpkg, since dpkg doesn't even bother checking deps, nor does it handle multi-arch.
<5> jaMaLz: http://download.fedoralegacy.org
<8> ftp links ?
<5> ftp is a dead protocol.
<7> f12: dpkg checks all dependencies recursively.. so if you have 5 levels deep of deps for deps... it installs them all..
<5> jaMaLz: we offer http and rsync, both much more suited for many many small files.
<7> ftp is still nice... no encryption overhead like scp... but wouldnt want to use ftp for private info over the net though
<5> jshriver: dpkg does not. apt however does.
<8> f13: i wanna make my browser work
<5> jaMaLz: thats nice, what the heck do you mean by that.
<7> f13, I stand corrected.... I dont use dpkg that much just apt...
<5> jshriver: exactly. Higher levels of tools like yum do the same thing. check deps, retrieve them from configured repositories, and installs them.
<7> I'll have to check out fedora then, RH is a nice distro that was my only beef with it.. but that was hrm 2-3 years ago maybe 4
<5> jshriver: and yum / rpm supports multi-arch. x86_64 kernel, x86_64 AND 32bit packages.
<5> Debian and tools, not so much.
<7> nice
<7> brb
<8> i'm searching for file named mx
<5> mx?


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