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<UQlev> that is why yous server is target for spam
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> Test Test Test
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> .
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)<<< 250 ok 1138727564 qp 30975
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> QUIT
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)<<< 221 jessica.sciaphobia.net
<castor_troy> is there any security risk of using POP before SMTP?
<UQlev> castor_troy: plenty
<alan> UQlev: hrm how do i implement something like that?
<UQlev> alan: have you got vpopmail installed?
<alan> UQlev: yeah
<castor_troy> so POP before smtp is not a good solution for the problem of authenticated clients being rejected by rbl?
<UQlev> castor_troy: pop-before-smtp is out of use mostly
<UQlev> alan: 1) correct solution is to apply checkuser patch
<castor_troy> UQlev: then what do u recommend for the problem i spoke above?
<alan> UQlev: ah ok thanks
<UQlev> alan: 2) raw solution to drop all messages with incorrect address
<UQlev> castor_troy: I haven't got your problem yet
<alan> UQlev: how would ido that?
<UQlev> alan: 1) create an account Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> Test Test Test
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> .
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)<<< 250 ok 1138727564 qp 30975
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)>>> QUIT
<UQlev> Net::SMTP=GLOB(0x8119a04)<<< 221 jessica.sciaphobia.net
<UQlev> sorry for spam
<UQlev> alan: create and account rubbish@sciaphobia.net
<castor_troy> UQlev: u know that smpt-auth runs after rblsmtp don't u??
<UQlev> alan: 2) edit .qmail-default as follows
<UQlev> | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' rubbish@sciaphobia.net
<enerv> somebody use qmail+mysql ou project digibel for manager accounts using mysql? which its opinion on?
<UQlev> alan: it will discharge your queue
<UQlev> castor_troy: I don't know it coz I use spamd instead
<enerv> what did you find of the projects?
<UQlev> castor_troy: and those who supposed to be treated with spamd are not alowed to use my smtp, that's it
<castor_troy> UQlev: but u can save a lot of bandwidth cost using rbl..
<castor_troy> UQlev: i use both
<UQlev> castor_troy: how?
<UQlev> castor_troy: I mean spamd of PF
<castor_troy> UQlev: what do u mean by PF?
<UQlev> pf is packet filter invented by openbsd
<castor_troy> UQlev: ok
<alan> UQlev: rubbish@sciaphobia.net? is there a way to specify, if not the user's home directory?
<enerv> somebody use qmail+mysql ou project digibel for manager accounts using mysql? what did you find?
<castor_troy> UQlev: so u dont recommend the use of pop-before-smtp at all??
<UQlev> alan: I mean create virtual account with vadduser
<UQlev> castor_troy: I don't know your particular case
<UQlev> castor_troy: I just know that most of admins moved to smtp-auth
<castor_troy> UQlev: i've got some authenticated clients via smtp-auth that is being reject by rbl because rblsmtp runs before smpt-auth..
<alan> UQlev: thanks for the help :)
<UQlev> castor_troy: I heard you may create your white-lists for such a clients
<UQlev> castor_troy: and white-lists prevale
<castor_troy> UQlev: but it's a dynamic ip..
<castor_troy> :(
<UQlev> castor_troy: I have no ideas for your particular circumstances :)
<castor_troy> UQlev: ok thanks
<UQlev> castor_troy: try to use postfix with submission ports
<castor_troy> UQlev: ok i'll take a look on it
<UQlev> castor_troy: port 587 only for auth without rbls
<castor_troy> UQlev: how can i make a smtp on port 587 only for auth??
<UQlev> castor_troy: I don't know how to do it with qmail, that is why I mentioned postfix
<castor_troy> humm :9
<UQlev> castor_troy: for postfix it is builtin option
<castor_troy> UQlev: i'll try to find another qmail solution
<castor_troy> UQlev: but thanks for your help
<UQlev> castor_troy: try to install somesort of smtp-proxy for port 587, sox or so
<UQlev> castor_troy: so src address will be local for rbl
<castor_troy> UQlev: but i'll need some authentication how is it possible??
<UQlev> castor_troy: it will not interfere with authentication
<castor_troy> UQlev: hummm rigth
<castor_troy> UQlev: this is a good idea
<rustifer> sigh; I know this is a _sendmail_ question, but it's based on a qmail problem.... How do I make sendmail accept this rather than reject it? (I maintain both servers) _Domain_of_sender_address_#@[]_does_not_exist/
<rustifer> googling is unhelpful because it's not keeping the #@[]
<enerv> how that I close this open relay? http://rafb.net/paste/results/wwG7a693.html
<Bradipo> It isn't an open relay.
<Bradipo> Did you check your logs to see what happened to that message?
<Bradipo> This gives you the information you need to track it down: 250 ok 1138736848 qp 9970
<brif8> How safe is it to change .qmail-default from | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelievermail '' bounce-no-mailbox to ..... '' delete, and what are the other options?
<brif8> I have bounce-no-mailbox, and get plenty of failure notice message in postmaster@
<unknown> brif8: man dot-qmaill
<brif8> unknown: thanks So I could have |/var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' &junk@mydomain.com to forward all mail that would have bounced to a junk email account right to check before I just delete ??


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