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<0> using vpopmail how can I list all e-mails with all clear p***words on the same line? "vuserinfo -nC email" shows separated by one line
<0> I need a list of all of them to recreate on another server
<1> Cae2: does vpopmail store clear p***words?
<0> yes
<0> since it has cmpile with this option ;)
<1> Cae2: if the returned data is not in the format you want, you can always write a little script to reformat it.
<2> hwo do i have to backup to restore in case of a big fail ?
<3> from the .qmail file, how do I have the message forward to multiple email address's
<4> does this new jms1 patch just not work or what?
<5> it works fine ceL_
<6> Hey :) there's probably a better place to ask, but I'm just quickly wondering where vpopmail stores its user/p***word information?
<7> hello all!
<1> dec: it can store it in a hashed file or a SQL back-end.. depends on how you built it.
<7> what would be the problem if my message queues are getting bigger and bigger inside my spam******in/clamav server?
<6> cilkay - its not using the SQL backend, where abouts is the hashed file stored?
<6> (normally)
<1> dec: I don't know since mine is stored in MySQL.
<6> Okay, thanks.
<1> dec: btw, I'm quite new to vpopmail so I was just telling you what I read in the docs that I've been reading over the last few days.
<6> cilkay - oh okay :)
<1> I just built a qmail/ezmlm server on Gentoo.
<1> I was just trying to download mail from it and can't figure out why I'm not able to authenticate.
<1> qmailadmin, the web admin control panel, looks really great but I also have problems with that
<1> I can't create new users with it.
<1> I can create new users with vadduser
<1> .. from a shell
<1> It all seems like such an adventure.
<6> Hehe..
<6> But its great when it all works together. :)
<1> Isn't that true of anything?
<6> Nope.
<6> If you get MS Windows, Active Directory, MSSQL, SharePoint and windows DNS all working together in one united front, you might feel very successful, but its still not "great" :)
<1> I've stopped caring about what Microsoft does so it isn't even on my radar.
<1> It's all background noise to me.
<6> I don't _care_ what Microsoft do, I don't _like_ what microsoft do, but its still a fact that they're big in the market, and I still have to manage a couple of Windows servers. :(
<7> hmmm... i checked my /var/log/qmail/send/current to get some hint, but the file has no result. :(
<8> Hi, when I send ehlo to qmail, I expect it returns AUTH PLAIN, but it doesn't. Is there any workaround?
<9> fxr: do you have an smtp auth patch applied?
<8> jkitchen: yes, I'm using gentoo and SMTP AUTH is working.
<9> oh
<9> you 'emerged' qmail?
<8> jkitchen: yes, actually my problem is I cannot send mail with GNUS.
<9> well you have 2 problems then
<8> GNUS doesn't try to authenticate before sending mail
<9> 1) you emerged qmail
<9> gentoo's qmail ebuilds are the most foul things in existence
<9> they are absolutely
<9> god awful
<9> terrible
<9> so if you can, you should stop now, unmerge all of gentoo's qmail stuff it installed, and follow www.lifewithqmail.org
<9> second
<9> most smtp auth patches only advertise auth login and cram
<8> how can I choose the right patch if there are so many?
<9> www.fehcom.de/qmail/smtpauth.html
<9> use that one.
<8> jkitchen: thank you
<1> jkitchen: your comments about gentoo's ebuilds are interesting. I just put up a Gentoo box only because the docs on gentoo.org seemed to be good.
<1> .. not because I really wanted to run Gentoo.
<1> I just couldn't find RPMs or .debs for either of the distros I run, Mandriva or Ubuntu.
<1> For someone who isn't familiar with qmail, there are just a seemingly endless number of patches so it is hard to tell which are necessary and good.
<10> agreed
<10> netqmail now has essential patch thogh...
<10> I think ppl installing qmail from qmailrocks, emerge, apt-get tend to have endless problem :)
<10> they install whatever provided by these tools without knowing whether they really need it
<10> for any level of users I would reccomend lwq installation
<10> moreover, if you ask help on qmail problem on mailing list or chat room ppl expect you running a lwq style installtion
<1> fm: does it have packages?
<10> no
<1> It's not that I don't know how to build stuff from source.
<10> uses upstream netqmail source
<10> qmail has no dependency hell
<1> Yes, but it has a zillion patches.
<10> if you have an idea how your mail server should behave, I don't see any confusion on seleting patch
<10> after all, if you are not happy with a installion, you could easyly rebuild another with selected patches
<1> That's the thing... it requires heavy lifting.
<1> What about this qmail toaster thing?
<10> I hate that too :)
<10> just my personal observation
<1> So basically anything that makes life easier for overworked sys admins, you hate :)
<10> haha, I might be able to use those packages without any problem cos I got some experience on qmail now
<10> am talking about newbies
<8> I just solved my problem and it's not about gentoo but my gnus settings. Thank you.
<11> can i edit INSTALL.ids where it is
<11> ?
<10> yes
<10> you should edit it
<10> only take what you want from it
<11> can i edit it with gedit?
<10> yes
<11> fm, does the install.ids have to be in /usr/local/src/netqmail.05/netqmail.05 ?
<10> no
<10> you execute it manauly
<10> read lifewithqmail.org
<11> ok
<11> i am there just didnt know where it neaded to be
<10> ok
<10> location doesn't matter
<11> i am using ubuntu
<11> does it matter which selection i make?
<11> Solaris and
<11> Linux or FreeBSD 2.2 or BSDI 2.0 or AIX ?
<10> no
<10> as long as you don't select windows
<10> :)
<11> lol
<11> nooo
<11> fm doesnt want to runs in sh
<10> ?
<11> root@robubuntu:/usr/local/src/netqmail-1.05/netqmail-1.05# sh INSTALL.ids
<11> INSTALL.ids: line 38: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
<11> INSTALL.ids: line 73: syntax error: unexpected end of file
<11> did i do something wrong?
<10> may be
<11> o.O
<10> :)
<11> any ideas?
<10> if you can't figure it out, paste contents of that file somewhere or, execute commands manually one by one
<11> pw groupadd nofiles
<11> pw useradd alias -g nofiles -d /var/qmail/alias -s /nonexistent
<11> pw useradd qmaild -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> pw useradd qmaill -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> pw useradd qmailp -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> pw groupadd qmail
<11> pw useradd qmailq -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> pw useradd qmailr -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> pw useradd qmails -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /nonexistent
<11> any ideas?
<10> you are using ubuntu right ?
<11> yes
<10> what you pasted is for freebsd
<10> # groupadd nofiles
<10> # useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail/alias alias
<10> # useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail qmaild
<10> # useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail qmaill
<10> # useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail qmailp
<10> # groupadd qmail
<10> # useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail qmailq
<10> # useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail qmailr
<10> # useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail qmails
<11> yes i asked which one i should use?
<11> you said it doesnt matter
<10> copy this into a file, remove comment
<10> then run 'sh filename'
<11> ok
<10> brb
<11> kewl done
<11> this quide ****s
<11> :(
<11> they tell me stuff that doesnt work then then they dont tell me why i do it so i can fix it?
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