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<0> yusef: i'm merely suggesting that you do something constructive besides just complaining about it. you're not the first person to come in here complaining about this. it gets old rather quickly.
<1> This project seems badly managed, I have done research on internet sites today and read mailing list archives and it seems many aspects are bad documentation, mailing lists, documentation, open vs. closed source, etc. I try to do research to find alternative to good alternative to VMware, but I believes I will return to the original product I use
<1> Sorry for "complaining", but that is what users do :)
<1> Cheers all
<2> pbrook gave up on qvm86?
<3> he doesnt have time for it i guess
<4> correct
<3> heh :)
<3> moin pbrook
<5> there is no FSF graphical env for qemu in linux?
<0> graphical env?
<0> you mean a gui?
<5> yes
<0> stuNNed, it's getting there
<0> perhaps there'll be something reasonable for 0.8.3
<5> aliguori: roger that. and if running linux on ppc as host will i be able to run osx as guest soon you think?
<5> aliguori: roger that, thanks.
<0> hey Bonkers, how's vmbear going?
<0> stuNNed, i doubt it. i don't know that anyone is working on osx guest support
<0> personally, i'd be afraid of being sued by apple...
<3> pearpc does it iirc
<6> yup
<3> did they get sued?
<0> and apple hasn't sued yet?
<0> that surprises me.. this is the company that sued over "look and feel"
<0> they're bastards
<6> Well, it's a PPC system emulator. It runs Linux PPC guest as well. Also, the docs make it pretty hard to set up and use, so probably most people can't get it to work.
<0> :-)
<0> btw http://qemu.codemonkey.ws/screenies/ <- screenshots of the gui i posted earlier.. nothing that special other than the tabs. fi the approach is acceptable, next step would be a toolbar that does the monitor commands
<7> hi how can I boot an iso from the command line
<0> -boot d
<7> I want to boot a Windows 2000 iso and also enable the sound on it
<7> I am using a Mandriva Linux box
<7> aliguori: doesnt work, I already installed the Windows OS I just need to boot it
<7> aliguori: I get a Boot from Hard Disk 0 failed
<0> Jzarecta, what command line are you using?
<7> aliguori: I am using BASH and I typed $qemu -boot c Win2K.iso
<6> don't type the dollar sign.
<6> also, it should say "-boot d", not "-boot c"
<4> And you need to use -cdrom.
<7> I type dollar sign to indicate sell
<7> shell
<6> qemu -cdrom Win2K.iso -boot d
<3> and you need an image if you want to install too
<6> He only wants to do what he said he wants to do. :)
<7> jasonb: huh?
<3> :)
<0> Jzarecta, you said "i already installed the Windows OS". what did you mean by that?
<7> aliguori: I am talking about an image
<7> I want to boot it up but with the sound enabled
<0> image != iso
<0> is this a cdrom image?
<7> so what is the parameter to enable the sound on the boot
<0> or a hard drive image?
<0> read the man page
<0> it's there
<7> it doesnt quite clarify it
<3> try -soundhw es1370
<7> they have this
<7> qemu -soundhw sb16,adlib hda
<7> qemu -soundhw es1370 hda
<7> qemu -soundhw all hda
<7> qemu -soundhw ?
<7> but which to choose
<7> aham
<3> sb16 is isa
<3> (needs io, irq, dma...)
<3> and i dunno if newer windows even has drivers for it
<7> so the final line should be like $qemu -boot c Win2k.img -soundhw es1370
<3> if Win2k.img is the installed image, yeah
<7> yes
<3> aliguori, cool i just saw your patches :)
<8> howdy.
<3> gnite
<8> is cvs compiling?
<8> mine doens't like m
<8> e
<0> it does for me on linux
<8> does it not like distcc?
<0> i'm not currently using distcc
<8> http://pastebin.ca/89796
<7> sorry I got another question I am triying to install Win2k on another image what will be the parameter setup I currently have this $qemu-i386 -boot d -cdrom /home/jza/Win2K.iso -hda -win2k-hack win2k.img
<7> but it try to boot the blank image
<7> as opposed to the iso
<8> you can't have -win2k-hack after -hda
<8> the img needs to go there instead.
<9> you also want 'qemu' not 'qemu-i386'
<8> the url i pasted has gcc errors from qemu cvs
<4> Tefad: Try adding #include <unistd.h>
<8> no dice
<8> got rid of the warning though
<4> #include <sys/syscall.h>
<4> See "man syscall"
<8> still nothing
<8> it has to do with the ldt part
<8> syscall is fine
<8> line 67 is the problem
<8> or 65 as it is
<8> sizeof(ldt) *error*
<8> then there's a warning about ldt not being used.. as per the pasting
<8> http://pastebin.ca/89802
<0> Tefad, what's your host kernel version?
<8> moment.
<0> does /usr/include/asm/ldt.h exist?
<8> 2.6.17.2
<8> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 711 1999-07-11 12:11 /usr/include/asm/ldt.h
<0> Tefad, and it defines a user_desc struct?
<8> struct modify_ldt_ldt_s
<8> with nine members
<8> the rest is only constants
<0> you've somehow got really really old kernel headers installed
<8> http://pastebin.ca/89814
<0> http://www.kernel.org/hg/linux-2.6/?f=86b61f7de8b4;file=include/asm-i386/ldt.h
<0> that's what ldt.h looks like now
<8> go slackware.
<0> like, 2.4 headers
<8> yeah, slackware has not switched to 2.6 yet
<0> ah
<8> however, i have 2.6 kernel
<8> and last release offered a test 2.6 kernel
<8> so how would i resolve this without hosing up my stuffs
<4> If should already work.
<0> the odd thing is, your version.h is giving the wrong kernel version
<4> helper2.c already has the appropriate version checks.
<0> your headers must be mixed
<8> i have /usr/src/linux pointed at linux-2.6.17.2
<0> the problem is /usr/include
<0> specifically, /usr/include/asm and /usr/include/linux
<8> ok
<4> Tefad: That's why it's broken.
<0> i bet your /usr/include/linux points to 2.6.17, and your /usr/include/asm points to something older
<4> /usr/include/asm and /usr/include/linux should come from the same place, and should match your libc.
<8> /usr/include/linux points to the correct place
<8> and asm points to asm-i386 whatever that is
<4> /usr/include/linux shoud NOT point to your current kernel.
<8> so why on earth does every guide i read say to do that
<4> Like what?
<0> Tefad, what does /usr/include/asm-i386 point to?
<8> it's a directory
<0> that's your problem
<0> i agree with pbrook here, restore /usr/include/linux to what it used to be, and things will start working again
<8> it used to point at linux-2.4 something
<8> which is why i changed it.
<4> Tefad: Change it back :-)
<8> but i don't have 2.4
<4> Like I sait. Those headers should match your libc, not your kernel.
<8> blargh
<8> if my crap gets hosed, i'm suing ; )
<4> The kernel is backwards compatible. libc is not forwards compatible.
<8> kernel should be backward compatible.
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