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<0> .... isnt Zope a sort of CMS ?
<1> "
<1> i have no idea ;)
<2> Zope is an application server.
<0> well someone here will no doubt confirm or deny. Otherwise google for it.
<3> Zope is an aplication server, Plone is a CMS running on top of Zope
<3> check out Plone..
<4> neurogeek: seems you have an interest in neurology?
<3> DrNoboto, yeap. in fact, im a psychologist :D
<1> nobotomy
<4> haha
<1> hey
<4> i've had several
<3> :D
<1> neurogeek, not that i know but
<1> did you ever have contact with lsd?
<3> not yet, that i remember
<4> heh
<1> proved against, a psychologist is not a psychonaut.
<1> -st
<1> they relate such as an astrologist relates to an astronaut.
<4> indeed
<1> searching for logic in the psyche? hah.
<1> tell me when you find some.
<4> paniq: you're german, did you by chance make it to basel this january?
<1> oooooh.
<1> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
<1> i dont know anything about hofmanns birthday!!
<1> damn!
<3> :D
<3> Yeah right!
<3> paniq, don't get panicked
<1> well actually i would have loved to attend, but two of my friends went there
<1> i read one additional report, shulgin was there as well
<4> haha
<1> didn't have the time, unfortunately.
<1> next time he becomes 100 years, i'll attend.
<4> i was there :)
<0> what are the american relations between psychologist and psychiatrist
<4> i met a lot of germans too, that's why i asked
<1> crap!
<0> (because i guess you're american, for some reason)
<1> everybody was there but me.
<5> sybariten: psychiatrists are about high level therapeutic approaches, while psychologists are about scientific approachhes.
<4> hmm, lag
<1> poopy, psychiatrists are not psychotherapists!
<5> The former are PhDs who practice psychotherapy, while the latter are MDs who practice medicine.
<5> paniq: Oh, no?
<5> They're therapists as opposed to medical doctors, though, right?
<3> Psychiatrists are at a medical level
<1> psychiatrists make a record of psychological diseases, they usually do the traditional drug treatment
<5> Oh, whoops.
<1> in short, they are fools.
<5> I don't know what I'm talking about, then.
<3> Psychologists are at a behavioral level most of the times
<4> Poopsmith: psychiatrists can prescribe medications
<5> Oh, I was backwards.
<1> psychologists just like to watch :)
<5> Psychologists are PhDs and psychiatrists are MDs.
<5> Whoops.
<3> yes, because they are Doctors
<1> "I AM JESUS" "how fascinating!"
<5> haha
<1> that is the psychologist
<5> Whatever. We all know that Dianetics offers the true path to mental health.
<1> the psychiatrist is:
<1> "I AM JESUS" "take this pill" "what did you just give me?"
<1> the psychotherapist is:
<1> "I AM JESUS" "I AM BUDDHA"
<3> funny stuff
<4> hehe
<1> two of them deal with crazy people
<1> psychologists deal with sanity, and watch insane people to understand sane ones :)
<1> am i right?
<1> Poopsmith: ah, the great dianetics.
<5> Well, there's also neuropsychology, so the stereotype of psychologists as only being interested in a high level approach to the "mind" is kind of unfair.
<3> paniq, Yes, almost 100 right
<5> More recently, the availability of fMRI and PET scanning allows a lower level (more scientific) approach.
<1> neurosychology :D
<5> I took a few university cl***es in psychology, and it's shocking the difference between the newer courses and the old ones.
<4> there are tons of interesting fMRI studies coming out these days
<1> neuropsychology... they dont watch the program run, they dis***emble..
<5> The old ones being purely behavioral and not that rigorous.
<5> Right.
<6> uh
<6> how?
<3> Poopsmith, Both tend to be behavioral
<5> paniq: Scientology is very interesting.
<6> they don't know the machine language yet
<1> scientology is an ingenious concept.
<6> how to dis***emble?
<4> paniq: agreed
<1> its so great i'm angry that i didn't invent it.
<5> SamB: Well, traditionally, it'd be to see what behavioral effects certain damage and lesions have.
<4> and it took a failure like l. ron hubbard to come up with it
<1> :D
<6> that isn't called dis***embly
<5> E.g. someone with a lesion in Broca's area cannot put together grammar, so the ***umption is that Broca's area is the grammar center.
<6> that is called... er... I dunno. but it isn't dis***embly.
<5> SamB: But more recently, you can actually observe which parts of the brain are active for different tasks, and link them that way.
<5> SamB: Sure, but he was making a metaphor :P
<6> isn't that called profiling?
<1> SamB: they know how to dis***emble, they just dont understand the larger picture
<1> they know what a neuron is doing basically but they dont understand the flow
<5> neurogeek: Not in the same sense. Simply saying, "Well, people seem to react this way when confronted with this stimulus" and putting a name on it isn't very useful. Linking it to specific functions of the brain is far more useful.
<7> hi all ..
<5> Linking behavior to specific functions, thta is.
<7> how can i check if an obj is a list a tuple or str or dict or ...
<1> yeah like
<7> ?
<5> nomed: type(object)
<8> nomed: usually, by trying to use it as one.
<1> "when i disable parts of your brain with this electromagnetic wave for a nanosecond, what do you feel?"
<3> Poopsmith, indeed, but that is behavior also. Matching functionality of specific brain and sub-cortical structures with behavior
<1> "I AM JESUS"
<8> also, why don't you already know? It's generally bad form to guess at what type an object might be.
<5> nomed: >>> type([])
<5> <type 'list'>
<5> >>> type((1, 2))
<5> <type 'tuple'>
<5> >>> type({})
<5> <type 'dict'>
<1> the brain is like python
<7> Poison3R, yes i know
<5> neurogeek: OK, fair enough.
<7> but is there a way to use
<3> :D
<1> it is easy to understand and use at its own level,
<7> something like
<1> but if you dig into the C implementation you want to vomit.
<5> neurogeek: I was trying to express what difference I saw between the courses I thought were useless and those that were interesting. ;)
<7> if type(a) = "list":
<8> nomed: no.
<7> for i in a:
<5> nomed: Nope. Because type doesn't return strings.
<3> Poopsmith, the thing is we call all "behavior" so, fair enough..
<8> nomed: if you really must check, use 'isinstance(a, list)'. But don't. really.
<7> that's bad ...
<8> nomed: just document your function as 'expects a list', and always use 'for i in a:'
<1> neurogeek, do you use the word "peculiar" often?
<7> Yhg1s, i would import some modules from another app
<7> i wouldn't fork that
<8> nomed: eh?
<4> neurogeek: is there a link between your neurological and computational interests?
<8> nomed: those modules return unpredictable objects?
<7> Yhg1s, i have some cl***es and defs
<7> i can import
<5> neurogeek: No, you're right. I ****ed up. :P
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