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<0> steg: so exec is useful for that.
<1> please I did a script and I would like comment ( critic in fact ) someone ca take a look?
<2> Jerub: ok, but I don't think I've ever needed to use either.
<3> teratorn: let me guess... you like lambda ?
<4> werneck: p***ing the code as a string...
<2> Jerub: what makes exec better than eval, btw?
<0> steg: it executes multiple statements.
<4> werneck: i wish it were a lot better
<2> oh, I was under the impression eval did too
<5> Also, the pyparsing talk was pretty cool too. I had no idea it existed and was so cool...
<6> christor: show it.
<1> http://pastebin.com/574124
<1> this is my 3rd script and I want to increase the perf and.. but I need advice because I have not again all the tips
<7> is there a more efficient way to do: [x for (x,y) in foo]
<0> emes: that *is* the efficient way.
<0> :)



<7> :|
<3> emes: maybe zip(*foo)[0] is more efficient... try it
<8> more efficiently obfuscated at any rate
<0> werneck: no, that's the silly way
<5> Oh, I think Guido also mentioned adding two new builtins: any() and all()
<5> Don't quote me on that, though. I did see it on his slides, though.
<9> I saw that discussion elsewhere too
<3> cubicool: any and all are already implemented on cvs... I liked it
<0> cubicool: they were mentioned on python-dev ages ago.
<1> kbrooks: are you analyzing?
<10> Anyone know of a good IDE for linux?
<5> What are the rules in which you don't have to wrap a comprehension in []? I just saw you could get away w/ that yesterday?
<9> 2.4
<11> you can do generators with them
<12> noen: KDEVELOPP!#!@
<0> cubicool: generator expressions are a general case of list comprehensions that produce a generator.
<10> thane, auch... running gnome, and I the dependencies are probably mad :P
<11> actually, a more efficient way instead of [x for (x, y) in foo] should be the generator-version of it, no=
<11> ?
<13> noen: Eclipse
<12> noen: kde rulaz
<10> zanella, I thought eclipse was a java IDE
<9> noen: WingIDE, Eric3
<13> noen: Eclipse is a _anything_ IDE
<13> noen: PyDev is the plugin I used to use
<14> pydev is useful.
<14> :)
<13> noen: Eric3 is pretty cool also
<3> hakanw: depends... if you're going to iterate over them and do something, probably is, but if you need a sequence of the items, probably not
<10> Think I will give eclipse a shot... using at school to code java, so I guess I have to get used to it anyway :)
<0> I use vim
<11> right
<13> Jerub: me too :-)
<5> me 3
<12> I use kate when I don't want to use kdevelop
<12> composing regular expressions visually is amazin
<15> i was using eclipse for a while, but my poor powerbook doesnt like it too much, so vim for me also :)
<11> thane: visually...?
<13> chzmgr`: Mine k6-2 and mine 2GB HD doesn't like it also... I wonder why...
<12> yea, you see what you are typing really does. let me see if I can find a link.
<0> zanella: s/mine/my/g
<15> wow
<0> ;)
<15> i wont grumble about my machine anymore :)
<13> chzmgr`: :-P except for the HD i find it a pretty damn good PC
<12> well here is one shot: http://kennethhunt.com/archives/000840.html
<15> fair play...back in the day my first experiences with linux were with a p133 with a 2gb hard drive. using x was not viable. :)
<13> chzmgr`: I used to like mine P4 best but as it seems he didn't like me...
<15> :(
<16> don't even get me started on eclipse... they tried to encourage it in my school. I had a cool TA that semester, though, so he let me use gvim in windows and the dos java debugger :D
<15> i've got a dell laptop that i still run linux on, but generally its main purpose is to keep my feet warm :D
<10> zanella, Where do I find the eclipse update manager?
<17> You know, this channel spends less time actually talking about python and python issues than it does grumbling about other languages and shaking the .py pompoms.
<18> does this sound familiar, "Failed to open environment. signed integer is greater than maximum"
<1> roderyk: can I show you my script top10_preparse? need critic and tips and advice
<18> hari`: it's a language channel on freenode, that is to be expected
<0> hari`: that's not true.
<13> noen: on the help menu I guess
<6> christor:
<6> i looked at it
<16> christor: if you want, but I'm sure there are better pythonic gurus on the channel. I've been using python for less than a week :D



<6> and it is ALL wrong.
<10> zanella, Foudn it :)
<18> anyone experience this signed int greater than max thingy on debian? maybe debian amd 64?
<11> kbrooks: lol
<18> i'm trying to use the darcs plugin for trac
<1> kbrooks: lol ??
<5> I just thought of something... do the objects returned while iterating over a generator get GC'd soon after they're iterated over?
<19> roderyk: Heh. I had not learned of vim at the time I took java.
<6> christor: your method of documentation is substandard (sub = not)
<5> (if that makes any sense?)
<13> chzmgr`: Why don't u use this old laptop as a terminal?
<18> i built it using setup.py as an egg, copied it to the plugins folder of my trac instance and when i run trac-admin tracEnv component list it get this error
<19> roderyk: I used Notepad cuz I was hardcore.
<13> sorry
<0> cubicool: as soon as there are no references to an object, it gets collected, in cpython
<1> kbrooks: ??
<6> christor: """..."""
<6> use that
<1> kbrooks: oh yes
<6> christor: this thingy is called a docstring...
<15> zanella : how do you mean?
<5> Jerub: and there are no special rules then for generators? Like, if I was iterating of a 1GB file using: for line in file("whoa"), those lines wouldn't stay around in memory for the life of the program?
<16> CSWookie: no comment. ^^
<19> roderyk: Yeah well, that was then.
<19> roderyk: And it was better then Visual J++
<0> cubicool: no, there's no special rules. once nothing can see the variable anymore, it's collected.
<16> CSWookie: I can't say anything. At one time I used dos' edit. :)
<6> christor: then there is the 2 regexps.
<13> chzmgr`: Use it only to show the apps wich will be running on other PC
<6> christor: address and gz regex
<1> kbrooks: yes?
<15> you can use different GC methods in python though, right?
<6> christor: those 2 are overkill.
<6> christor: you can use str.split. pydoc it.
<6> as for gz regex, you can use str.endswith. pydoc it.
<15> zanella : i dont have any other boxes in the house :( just my powerbook and my dell laptop...being at university, had to kinda make my purchases more mobile oriented
<1> kbrooks: roderyk I m reading
<16> kbrooks: maybe it would have been easier if you commented christor 's code step by step. Think of it this way: you weed out any bad habits early, and they won't crop up later :)
<6> christor: you have duplicate code... :)
<6> roderyk: Sure.
<13> chzmgr`: www.ltsp.org
<1> kbrooks: yes I know but I don t know how to do it in 1 code
<1> kbrooks: the first code parse a file , the second parse a list of file
<6> christor: hang on
<16> christor: can you linky the script, so anyone else interested can follow along?
<15> zanella: ahh, looks kinda cool. i'm actually using it as a node in a lam/mpi cluster at the moment, when it's not keeping my feet warm
<20> What is the format of the 'env' argument for 'os.execle ()' ?
<15> when i say cluster, it's kinda stretching the term a bit...2 laptops clustered together :)
<1> http://pastebin.com/574124 and don t laugh please :P
<16> christor: http://docs.python.org/tut/node6.html#SECTION006760000000000000000 Read this to understand how you should document functions
<6> FIXED!
<6> http://pastebin.com/574171
<6> i hope.
<6> well,not fixed
<6> you have to fix it yourself.
<17> hakanw: mIRC I think.
<1> kbrooks: really thanks :) the regexp are from me :P
<1> I have tried to use \d+{3} but it didn t work :s
<6> \d{3} ...
<6> theres a conflict.
<6> + means "one or more"
<6> {n} means "exactly n"
<17> Uh, \d{3,}
<1> kbrooks: ooohh
<1> I gonna try
<17> The \d means digits.
<6> and {n,} means "more than n"
<1> concerning the 2 code is it possible to do 1 ?
<20> How may I execute a command, for instance '/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm' ? I'm using spawnle, but nothing shows.
<17> Alterego, os.system()
<6> christor: Yes it is. take advantage of [item]
<6> if not isinstance(x, list): x = [x]


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