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<0> no change in it
<1> locale.atof()
<2> neat
<0> so anyone got anymore ideas
<2> Patch: perhaps you need the python bindings as well as the cairo library itself
<2> Patch: or vice versa
<3> Do you have a suggestion for a good one-liner that checks if a string (website downloaded with pycurl into a string) really is html "valid"? Right now i just check for "<html" somewhere in the string!
<4> hi all, how do i clean the screen on python? i want to make something like a progress bar
<5> sapo: maybe a bit more complex than "clear screen", but check out http://excess.org/urwid/
<5> it even comes with a progress bar
<6> Patch, what's the exact error message?
<0> cannot find module cairo
<7> molsen, define "html valid"
<0> Traceback (most recent call last):
<0> thats happens all the time when i try to run it
<4> stain, thanx i ll check it out
<5> sure =)
<6> Patch, yep, it's looking for pycairo and not just gtk deps
<0> ive installed all the files into python and gtk
<0> and still o get the same error
<0> i also install cairo
<8> wow it's root
<2> Patch: you need to libraries - the cairo native library, and the cairo python bindings
<2> Patch: in my OS, they are two separate packages, libcairo and python-cairo
<2> s/to/two
<3> Bread, not w3c-valid but just somewhat valid!
<7> molsen: If you don't know what validity is, I suspect that determining it will be difficult ;)
<3> Brend, yes :)
<7> molsen, maybe you can come up with something involving http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/
<0> ok just uninstalled everything coz i needed to rearrange stuff
<0> what version of pygtk should i get
<9> Hi guys
<9> anyone have any comments regarding SQLObject vs SQLAlchemy wrt stability, ease of use, and abstraction design?
<0> damn damn
<0> i installed the latest gtk+ and downloaded the hello world app and icant find all the dlls
<10> Patch: have you checked your path?
<0> i cant find the gtk installer website now lol
<6> http://www.mapr.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/pygtk.html http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/
<0> do i need to install gladewin aswell
<6> the runtime package
<0> yup
<0> i installed the gtk and ciaro packages
<11> what is similar with u'text' ?
<11> unicode() ?
<2> qk: yes
<0> DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found.
<0> dll load filed the specific module could not be found
<0> th\ats when i import gtk
<6> well, I just removed everything and installed the three packages: gtk+ runtime from gladewin, pygtk (with pycairo support), and pycairo
<6> importing both gtk and cairo works
<6> you should also be getting a windows popup dialog that mentions the missing dll by name if you get that exception from python, what does it say?
<0> http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/modules/wfdownloads/visit.php?lid=96
<0> shall i install that
<12> yo, intelligent people
<12> is there an easy and elegant and more importantly beautiful way to have code that only executes if there was no exception, without having it inside the try: block ?
<12> I'm doing a dictionary lookup to determine what function to execute, and I don't want to catch keyerrors from within the function itself
<12> best I can do is put a "return" inside the except
<12> but that's inelegant
<6> Patch, it shouldn't hurt, but no, it's not needed either, you need either the runtime environment or development environment from there, but not both
<7> Patrick`, the "else" clause of try?
<12> Brend: ah
<12> Brend: this would be where I rtfm and find it where I just looked
<7> :)
<12> ooh, ooh
<0> what im doing is:
<0> import pygtk
<0> pygtk.require("2.0")
<0> then import gtk
<12> brend, awesome
<0> and it specifies module not found
<4> anyone knows a good tutorial about python with glade? all tutorials i found so far just teachs you how to draw and window and close it -_- thats useless
<12> everything else is details
<0> dll load not found: specific module
<0> have you tried tutorialized.com
<13> I'm writing a cl*** that should simulate a list (not by inheriting from list). When doing a "list(myobject)", a list should be returned - but how would I do this?
<14> dusty_, unless it's homework, why would you do that?
<2> dusty_: implement the iterator protocol (i.e. return an iterator from __iter__), or __getitem__ and __len__
<13> What I want is the following: A fixed-sized list, where items can be accessed by named attributes but also by index, such as myobject[2] or myobject.'myattr'.
<14> def __list__(self): return [ 1, 2, 3 ]
<14> I've not tried it, but I expect that is on the right track.
<7> return iter([1,2,3])
<7> For some reason
<7> Otherwise you get "TypeError: __iter__ returned non-iterator of type 'list'", which seems pretty bizarre
<2> dusty_: you could define __getitem__, __setitem__ and __len__
<13> halley: Really? I can't find __list__ in any Python documentation?
<14> Maybe to allow for all sequence types?
<13> joedj: Thank's that's probably also a good solution.
<2> dusty_: you could also extend tuple to add your own attributes
<6> dusty_, because there isn't one
<13> joedj: Thought about that, but tuples are immutable, I cannot do something like myobj[3] = 'abc'
<11> What can i do to have iteration on one element tuple like iteration on one element list ?
<7> qk: There's a difference?
<11> yes.
<7> I bet you're writing (x) instead of (x,) or something
<9> anyone have any comments regarding SQLObject vs SQLAlchemy wrt stability, ease of use, and abstraction design?
<11> Brend: yes :) thanks.
<7> :)
<15> is ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 the same tihn?
<6> no
<11> how can i simply change printed text color in console ?
<6> you can't, not in a way that's cross-platform anyway
<6> unix terminals should be happy with ansi escape codes, windows needs extension module
<6> http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/wconio.html
<11> Juhaz: i need unix only.
<16> hi. what is that syntax for ? _( "some string %s")
<17> solsTiCe, gettext afaik
<16> the _( and ) ?
<16> i18n ?
<16> ok
<18> http://karlsberg.pastebin.com/568415
<18> with this code i set my table with a liststore mode ?
<18> i have this code but dont run with liststore funtions...
<19> Can I somehow change Python's idea of the working directory when executing code with eval()?
<19> Without chdir, that is.
<20> DataBeaver: No. If you are hoping of some restricted execution, you can't do it with just eval anyway.
<19> I just want imports to be relative to the script I'm executing
<18> ...
<21> something like sys.path.append('someDir') should work for that
<21> or put it at the beginning of sys.path if you want to override all the defaults
<19> Hm, can I ***ume that the cwd will always be in the beginning of sys.path?
<21> that's not the cwd, it's the dir the script is in.
<19> Well can I ***ume that to be in the beginning?
<19> So I could do sys.path[0]="/new/dir/here" ?
<21> but *usually* sys.path[0] is the dir the script is in. (there are exceptions, for isntance if you freeze your app with py2app, py2exe, cx_freeze)
<19> help(sys) says: path -- module search path; path[0] is the script directory, else ''
<22> dont forget rotation
<5> if it is fixed
<23> hmm ok anyway
<23> gtg
<23> bye and thx
<16> to test the type of something , the best way is to use type or there is another way ?
<2> solsTiCe: the best way is not to do it. but there's also isinstance(). type() only works on new-style types
<16> ok. yes i know it is generally better not doing that
<24> solsTiCe: the current philosophy is to just use it and ***ume it's the right type and let type errors propogate if it isn't. sometimes called duck typing.
<16> ah . i know that. just didn't know the name . so that 's what duck typing ... :-)
<24> comes from "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."
<24> it's a silly sort of name for polymorphism
<24> but pyprotocols-style interfaces do ok at that job i suppose
<24> seems java has found religion in dynamic languages, including javascript in 1.6, and there's talk of including beanshell in 1.7
<25> huh
<25> found religion in dynamic languages?
<26> grrr
<25> :|
<26> Pythonwin + firefox = weird behaviour
<26> Pythonwin + pgAdminIII also = weird behaviour
<26> :(
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