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<0> tag_bind is something like {'artist': 'a', 'title': 't'}
<1> if P then Q, if Q then R, therefore if P then R, isn't that transitivity?
<0> i want to get ['a', 'nix', 't', 'blah']
<0> darkgreen: yes
<2> can anyone tell me how to get the module object for the current module? The name seems to be available in a method as self.__module__, but I'm not sure how to turn the name into an object.
<3> uh, mod = sys.__modules__[self.__module__]
<2> ah, thanks
<2> hmm, what I'm trying to do is dynamically read all the cl*** objects from a module, so I can register them in a cl*** factory. so now, er, how do I turn the cl*** names from dir(mod) into cl*** objects?
<4> ?getattr brendan
<5> anyone know if there's something similar to the python cookbook specifically for linux based python programs.
<2> yeah, thanks
<2> just found it :)
<4> also check out ?globals brendan
<2> thanks TFK
<5> anyone?
<3> with the email module,, howe do I set a body?
<6> unix_infidel: there's some things you have to know about posix/linux but most of python is platform-independent, the python reference is a good source of info 'bout the exceptions. I doubt anyone will spend their time for sth like that
<7> kbrooks: there's a recipie for it.
<3> ah, Jerub, i just went therre, and stupid me :P
<8> ironfroggy: I'm around now.
<9> Wolfman2000: not again ;-)
<8> cybercobra: I think you can calm down. The StandardPlayingDeck is complete.
<8> Or at least, complete enough for the purposes that I'm hoping for.
<9> Wolfman2000: good to hear it
<8> I'm mostly right now trying to figure out the best way to go next......though I wonder...
<8> Is there a python equivalent of a Java toString method I could write?
<8> I wish to actually put some test code in to see if I can draw a card and get its result.
<10> argh... what is toString?
<8> toString basically turns any object/int/whathaveyou into a String representation.
<7> Leeds: it's the java way of saying __repr__ / __str__
<7> Leeds: it's the only place in java where there's operator overloading iirc. you can add an object and a string together and get a string as a result.
<8> What's the difference between __repr__ and __str__ then?
<10> Jerub: hmm, thanks...
<7> Wolfman2000: repr() is for representing an object, programatically.
<11> yeah
<12> Jerub: how do you mean, programatically?
<10> Cowmoo: if you do print on a file, do you expect to see all the contents of the file, or an abstract thing with the filename, mode, etc. which tells you about the file?
<10> that is, a file object
<12> Leeds: I know that, but I meant regarding the difference between __repr__ and __str__
<12> so is str() only invoked when you actually call it?
<7> nope
<7> print foo ; will use __str__ if it exists, otherwise __repr__
<7> print '%s %r' % (foo, foo) ; will call str() and repr() respectively.
<12> ah ok, that answers my question
<12> cheers Jerub
<12> and Leeds
<10> repr seems to be used - in ipython, at least - when you just doo "foo" in the interpreter
<12> yea
<13> Is there a way for a child method to call the parent version of itself?
<14> how wrong is it to put "import"s in the middle of a script? I'm not being able to avoid it, since I need to do many checks before that (like dropping privileges before trying to connect to the database, which happens when I import a certain module)
<15> nictuku: It's not wrong.
<15> nictuku: In such cases I usually define a function to import module at top and call it later.
<7> nictuku: don't run code on import.
<15> That too.
<7> nictuku: especially not database code. you'll screw up the automated testing you're doing.
<7> (you're doing automated testing, right?)
<14> Jerub, yeah, I'm not being able to do that, though.
<14> like, I must define __connection__ as a global in the module
<14> https://dev.ubuntubrasil.org/trac/nwu/browser/trunk/nwu-server/nwu_server/db/operation.py
<14> "PackageHub()" comes from turbogears
<14> I tried to use a function to define __connection__, using "global __connection__", but that didn't work
<15> def delayed_imports():
<15> global __connection__
<15> from blah import __connection__
<15> Or something like that.
<14> hmm ok, I'll try something like that again. thanks!
<16> o.0
<16> wierd code there
<15> Too bad things aren't always ideal :(
<15> By the way, recently I came across this:
<15> http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/
<15> Sep 4647 1993.
<15> Metazoans are rising from the deep ocean floor / Your telomeres're rapidly agin' / Please get out of the new niche if you can't form a hand / For the species they are a-changin'
<17> Anyone here can help with twisted?
<17> resource = EbayBidResource()
<17> from twisted.internet import reactor
<17> reactor.listenTCP(8000, server.Site(resource))
<17> reactor.run()
<17> why doesn't that work :(
<18> brian: what error(s) do you get?
<17> No such child resource
<17> http://bidpouncer.com/
<17> I have a cl*** with functions render_GET and render_POST
<17> why won't it work?
<19> Wolfman2000: you here?
<8> About to head to bed actually.
<8> ...we'll have to try another time.
<19> well i see you were asking about better string representations. did you do anything with that?
<19> thats exactly what i was going to mention actually. i realized that was missing, and its good to have at least for debugging.
<19> brian: ask in #twisted.web or #divmod if your question is Nevow-specific.
<20> how do i parse incoming data from a socket?
<20> do i just keep an infinite loop going that checks socket.recv?
<19> well are more sophisticated ways to deal with them, but thats the basic of it.
<19> but often you'd not deal directly with it, and instead will delegate the low-level details to some library.
<20> as in sophisticated, more efficient? or just complicated
<20> what do you mean, delegate to a library?
<18> squiggly: it really depends on what you want to do
<19> efficient as in productivity and maintainability of your codebase
<20> polpak, i want to parse incoming data
<20> not particularly lengthy
<20> maybe 200 chars total
<18> squiggly: do you want to do it asyncronously? will your process be handling multiple clients at once?
<20> the server i'm connecting to is asynchronous
<18> squiggly: ah, you're writing the client?
<19> well ill give me standard response: use twisted.
<20> yes polpak
<20> twisted what, ironfroggy?
<18> squiggly: does the client need to do other things while it waits for data? (update a gui, etc)?
<18> squiggly: will it connect to multiple servers at once?
<20> eventually, but not as of yet
<18> squiggly: use twisted
<19> squiggly: its a networking framework (among other things)
<20> but yes, it'll output parsed data from the socket to the console / window
<19> basically if you are listening on a socket with twisted, the framework would handle all the receiving of the data and p*** it along to you for processing.
<17> ugh why am i getting no such resource
<20> ironfroggy, that sounds good ;)
<19> brian: ugh what resource?
<17> ironfroggy: i'mbanned because i accidentally crashed someone's irc client or something
<17> ironfroggy: they don't believe me it was an accident
<20> copters
<17> ironfroggy: the resource instance I'm p***ing to server.Site()
<20> g-lined?
<17> application = service.Application('web')
<17> site = server.Site(EbayBidResource())
<17> sc = service.IServiceCollection(application)
<17> i = internet.TCPServer(8000, site)
<17> i.setServiceParent(sc)
<18> brian: use pastebin
<19> fa-lood.. bad!
<20> i'm thinking about buying some python books
<19> thats just boiler plate. the problem is in your resource.
<20> which one do you guys recommend for someone with a background in programming?
<21> twisted code is too important to be considered flooding
<21> :)
<10> squiggly: do you need a book?
<17> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fw31rQ28.html
<17> there i pasted it
<20> Leeds: yeah
<17> tell me why it doesn't work before i cry
<10> squiggly: why?
<17> guys why doesn't it works
<20> reading online documentation makes me sigh
<20> i prefer having one on hand anyway, as well as some example code
<18> brian: dunno.. I prefer django to twisted web
<18> brian: you'll have to wait for ironfroggy
<20> from twisted.internet.protocol import protocol
<20> isn't that kind of outdated
<17> maybe i should just use web.py
<17> it's a really small project
<17> but i can't use web.py
<17> i need async
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